Roden

Auburn civil engineering graduate, lifelong Alabama fan.

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So...I guess you're throwing the school you bought a T-shirt for under the bus...hmm. Also, before you or anyone else says that I can't be an Alabama fan while having a degree from Auburn, let me just say this: My career choice and choice for higher education was much more important to me than who I root for on Saturdays. Heck, I absolutely LOVE Auburn University and the town of Auburn, I actually still live here as my wife (also a big Alabama fan) attends the College of Veterinary Medicine. I do not regret nor will I ever regret my choice in education as Auburn does indeed have a much better College of Engineering
Well see, I was just comparing Henry and McCaffrey since from pretty much every media source says those are basically the top 2 contenders. Watson could be and probably is, a better athlete than both RBs this year. I mean, he's accounted for 41 total TDs!!!! But for the sake of the Heisman, with it pretty much coming down to the two RBs, I was attempting to compare apples to apples to two kids who play the same position
very true, Arkansas ALWAYS plays Alabama tough, nearly every year
Deacon4AU, unlike you I have a degree from Auburn University, yep you read that correctly, in Civil Engineering. I have never, EVER had "supeuor" as an auto-correct suggestion....
From what I can find, McCaffrey's 36 return attempts is the second most in the nation this year, so it is really no surprise he had so many yards.
Well so was the Wisconsin game for Alabama and Henry had went for 147 and 3 TDs with a relatively new OL. As to the returning yards, I throw those out when comparing the two since Henry was not allowed to return kicks at all this year and McCaffrey's return statistics are actually relatively average. He ranks 2nd in total return yards and ranks 6th in yds per return (contrary to one my previous post, I mistakenly looked at older statistics) meaning he was allowed to return a TON (36) of kicks. Still a great kick returner, one of the best in the country, but like I said, it is tough to compare since Henry did not return kicks. So to be fair, I do not take that into consideration.
Again Deacon4AU, you are factually incorrect. Final rankings for strength of schedule, after the regular season...Alabama #2 toughest and wait for it.....Stanford #11.
Yeah, Henry played an extra game or two but like volsfan5 stated, he actually still finished with less carries and more yards, giving Henry a better YDS/CARRY than Hershel so that argument can be thrown out the window. Secondly, about McCaffrey, it is true he played more yards, you would, like in the case of Henry vs. Sanders, have to compare the # of touches vs those yards since it really does not matter how many games each one plays. So statistically....Henry was better than Hershel, but please notice I am leaving it at statistically.
I'm so sorry, I did not realize body size and "supeuor intelligence" (you failed this one yourself with that spelling) was a criteria in weighing Heisman winners!!!! If that's the case.....Cam Newton was bigger than the competition.... So if McCaffrey is "infinitely a better football player" than Henry, I would love for you to explain these statistics for me: Henry averaged 5.73 yds/carry against 4 top 25 defenses (694 total against them, with 8 total TDs) and McCaffrey averaged 5.5 yds/carry against the one and only top 25 defense (held to just 66 total rush yards and zero TDs). How is it that Henry has a season average of 5.9 yds/carry vs. McCaffrey's 5.9? Or Henry's 1,986 total yards vs McCaffrey's 1847? Yes, McCaffrey was utilized more in the passing and kick return game, and yes, McCaffrey probably has better east/west speed, and yes McCaffrey has better "make you miss" moves than Henry (but not more power or more durability). But statistically Henry was better at his position. McCaffrey may indeed be a better overall athlete, but he is nowhere near "infinitely" a better FB player. Are you still sore from Henry putting 271 on your Tigers? Seems to me you are.
Yeah, you're right about the integrity part being long gone and yes, it is absolutely amazing that he broke Sander's record for all purpose yards. But about his 300 more yards than Henry...Henry had to play 4 defenses ranked in the top 25 vs McCaffrey's 1, which held him to just 66 yards rushing and 23 receiving. I'm just trying to compare apples to apples, how did each of these guys perform vs. elite defenses?
You are correct. I did some research of the official NCAA website, Alabama has faced 4 defenses ranked in the top 25 total defense (#3, #6, #8, and #25), Henry had 694 total yards against them and 8 TDs, helping Alabama win all four of those games. Northwester currently has the 11th ranked defense in the nation. They held McCaffrey to just 66 yards rushing and 23 yards receiving and 0 TDs, and Stanford lost that game.
My sources for the Heisman mission statement is from the Heisman website, my rankings are from the official NCAA website.
First of all, you are wrong. The purpose of the Heisman is the following: "The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work. The Heisman Trophy Trust ensures the continuation and integrity of this award" This says NOTHING about "who is most instrumental into his teams success" as you stated. But even if it were, can you honestly say that without Henry, Alabama would be where they are right now. I don't think so. McCaffrey is a great athlete and deserved consideration for awards, but I do not feel he is the best player in college football. The most versatile? Absolutely, which he just won the award for. But he is not the best. He is an average kick returner (ranked 8th nationally in return yards, 38th in yards per return), a pretty darn good RB (ranked 2nd in total yards, behind Henry), ranked 80th nationally in rush TDs,, ranked 201st in receiving yards. So yes, he is 100% the most versatile player in the country, but not the best player in the country.
Also, McCaffrey is ranked 38th in the nation in kick return averages, 8th in total kickoff return yards (Henry did not return kicks); 2nd in rushing yards (behind Henry), tied for 80th in rushing TDs (Henry is 1st), 201st in receiving yards (Henry 908th). So what I am seeing is McCaffrey is average to very good at best in everything, but Henry is the best in the one thing that he does, run the ball.
I am not sure why most people try to bring in these players' pro potential. The Heisman is not a pro award, it is a college award to college achievements, not pro potential. So that first point about him being the next Trent Richardson, while it may be true (yet to be seen, so speculating is pointless), is void and carries no weight. Also, please refer to my post above about both Henry's and McCaffrey's production against national top 25 defenses. Henry blows McCaffrey out of the water. Plus, removing his kick returning yards, McCaffrey has only 304 more yards total offense than Henry, against weaker defenses. Now, I am not saying McCaffrey doesn't deserve consideration, but in an apples to apples comparison against the defenses they have faced, Henry wins that matchup. But on the other hand, Watson might be the best out of the three.
Some statistics for everyone: Henry against national top 25 defenses: Rank Team Outcome #3 Wisconsin Rush for 147 yds, 3 TD #6 Florida Rush for 189 yds, 1 TD #8 Georgia Rush for 148 yds, 1 TD #25 LSU Rush for 210 yds, 3 TD *Alabama won these four games McCaffrey against national top 25 defenses: Rank Team Outcome #11 Northwestern Rush for 66 yds and 23 yds receiving (89 yards total on offense), 0 TD *Stanford LOST to Northwestern ranking source is NCAA website
If Alabama is gonna get a butt whooping from anyone right now, it'll be Oklahoma. I hope Alabama doesn't play them in the semi's
Got the Forrest Gump shoes and everything. Must mean he's a fast runner....
Not sure where you went with this comment?? Starting out saying that Alabama is ripe for an a$$ whooping, but then complimenting them (?).
I would be okay with that for sure, but unfortunately, it looks like Fuente got to talk to him before anyone else could.
My exact feelings on this guy saying Henry was not an effective pass blocker. Plus, the reason his receiving numbers weren't outstanding, is because Alabama would put in Kenyan Drake to catch the swing passes (has 21 receptions vs Henry's 10), as he was more dynamic than Henry on that particular type of play.
It's not true as of this moment. It is all speculation and hearsay. Pruitt has not officially been let go at Georgia, and it would be hard for them to let him go as he still has 1 mil left on his contract (on top of Richt's 4 million contract buyout). I hope they do so Alabama could get someone already familiar with Nick Saban's "process". Maybe even Mel Tucker??