Keeping Haley, Gibbs, and Walters gives some continuity on recruiting and defense, but not sure where Walters fits back in. I hope he didn't hire Harbison to co-coordinate with Walters ... Either way, they're going to have to generate a pass rush next year
Well said, zoucat
Honestly, after watching the Alabama game, I expected a better contest from the Gamecocks. Like all USC-Mizzou games, there were a couple of weird plays but overall "Curb-stomped" is a pretty good summary. However, for all the statistical dominance from Mizzou, it took a 100-yard interception return to seal the deal. A couple of points to think about. 1. Hilinski was hurt and never should have played. What's worse is I think Hilinski got the needle at halftime - he came out in the 3rd quarter firing missile's and making throws he didn't (and couldn't) make early in the game, but as the half wore on and the shot wore off, he became more and more limited. Something to consider ... 2. Mizzou had the better team across the board ... except for D-Line vs. O-Line. You've got a good group out there, and they can keep you in games. 3. I can see three, probably four more wins for you in the next few games. Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee and App. State are all winnable contests. 4. Not sure what you can do about Muschamp ... the buyout on him after January 1 is still $18.6M. That pretty much means one more year.
'Riots' might be a touch too strong, but it was a pretty disruptive demonstration and really trashed the school's rep for the next couple of years. I have a lot of respect for the job Odom's done rebuilding the program. We need to take the next step, however, to getting more and better recruits to CoMo and moving this program forward.
It’s the preseason and his first pro game. He’ll get better.
TigerTD - not a "worthless school" ... in fact, they have values, morals, and a student body with one hell of a work ethic. I wish my alma mater had had half the backbone of their chancellor and president. What happened at Mizzou a few years back was a flipping embarrassment. Take your own advice and do some research and dial down the heat.
I love it when idiots talk smack ... Don't let Volman rile you up. His pride, the Vols, are coming off one of the worst seasons (if not the worst) in Tennessee history. Looking at the schedule, they may be lucky to win four games ... At QB, they have an erratic RS Soph. and nothing behind him. Chandler's a decent RB, but no depth behind him - you need at least two stud RBs in the SEC to win. WR/TEs? Deep squads thin on talent and experience. On defense they're moving from a 4-3 to a 3-4 alignment ... look for mis-matched skills and growing pains. In short, ol' Volman wrote a pretty good prediction piece ... for Tennessee.
Thinking out loud, this seems to favor schools like 'Bama, Ohio State, and Clemson. In the recruiting wars, kids want to go to schools where they can get playing time and exposure. Many do not want to sit out their freshman years on a redshirt - almost a guarantee at the afore-mentioned top Power 5 schools (unless you are truly a phenom). This proposed rule change would allow programs deep in recruits to effectively stockpile by promising playing time during redshirt ... the rich keep getting richer, in this scenario.
LSUSMC - Even if he wins three, he needs to move on. I was a big supporter of Odom last year and earlier this year ... until the team quit on him during the Purdue game. I don't expect perfect, but you want to see improvement against chronically poor play in critical areas - defensive assignments; tackling; secondary coverage; special teams; WR play. Instead, we've either stayed the same or regressed in each of these areas. Time to get someone more experienced in ... unless Odom goes 5-1 in the back half ... unlikely
To SDS, ANYTHING negative about Mizzou is news ... even an insignificant 2-star benchwarmer leaving the team.
No real argument from me, LSUSMC. I thought the same when I went there, and after seeing the piss-poor handling of the whole situation in 2015 I think so now. It seems sometimes my alma mater succeeds in spite of, not because of, the Administration and BOTs.
LSUSMC - Sometimes you're right (bad loss to Indiana - much like losing to an unranked Wisconsin) and sometimes you're wrong. Mizzou was the #5 in the nation program in 2013, went 11-1 in the regular season and whipped Ok. State in the Cotton Bowl. The following year we went 11-3 overall, 7-1 in the SEC, and finished with the #11 rank in the nation. Getting sick and tired of hearing about how the East was 'down' the two years we won. No one cut us any slack in 2012 when we lost 4 out of 5 starting linemen before the season started and two DL and one LB after the season was underway ... You have to play the games and win the games.
Just more crack writing, editing, and proof-reading at SDS ... geez, I was a better reporter than these guys my freshman year in high school ...
Don't fret too much about the snub, shawnfenn ... pretty clear ol' Tyrone Duffy is just another SDS horse's ass. BTW, Ty old buddy old pal, just a few thoughts here 1. A&M didn't do any better than middle of the pack in the Big 12 either. 2. You keep doormat Purdue and hapless Illinois in the Big 10. 3. You proclaim the SEC the dominant new superconference, yet you keep perennial doormat Vanderbilt in the conference. Since it escaped your notice, Mizzou's turned in a better overall conference record than Vandy four of the five years we've been in the conference, including two SEC East titles, you putz. Man, I HATE most of the writers on this site.
And to say we have the same defense that you hung 63 on last year ... ditto. As for who beat whom ... we were 3-0 against you prior to going 0-2 ... there are lies; damn lies; and then there are statistics. History means nothing - this is college ball and things change every year. Here's your reality. Dobbs is gone; you're replacing your starting backfield; Maybin, Sutton, and Vereen are gone from your defense. You have a murderous first six games. If you are 2-4, or even 3-3 coming into road games against Kentucky and Mizzou the alumni will be howling for Butch's blood - hell, you go 0-6 and he will likely be fired - all of which adds to the distraction. And you play LSU the following week. This year will be interesting. Peace VolMaster
Don't want to sound like a 'homer' here. I have a pretty realistic expectation for my Missouri squad. That said, Mizzou's SEC record against Tennessee is 3-2; for whatever reason, we always play you tough. You're breaking in a new QB this year and you've got the distraction of LSU the following week. Classic trap game. Not saying it happens, but there are good reasons to circle the date.
Hey !! What happened?!?! An SDS article that's thought out, well-written, and balanced. Congrats Mr. McFadden ...
If you want realignment, then let's geographically realign ... West Missouri Texas A&M Arkansas Ol' Miss Miss. State LSU Kentucky East Alabama Auburn Georgia Tennessee Florida USC Vandy Makes more sense this way. Then, when Oklahoma and Okie St. join the SEC, slide the two Mississippi teams to the East
Every team in the East has a chance ... That said: - Offenses are built on the O-line. Last year's line was a sieve. Hamburger does not transform into filet mignon as it ages. - Pass rush and pass defense was suspect. They lost their top pass rusher (English) and no one is waiting in the wings. - Coaching. This is the same Muschamp that led Florida to a forgettable 28-21 record over four years with recruiting classes that regularly ranked in the top 10 and lost to that powerhouse the South Florida Bulls in their bowl game. I see a higher likelihood of 5-7 than an SEC East title. the knock against USC is the man in charge. Muschamp had a far more talented roster in Florida and couldn't get it done
It's yet another clickbait "prediction" by another so-called "expert" (and one obviously biased towards Auburn) How's this look instead: Week 1: FSU over Alabama. Pre-season #5 over #1. Alternate: BYU over LSU Week 2: TCU over Arkansas. Horned Frogs take one on the road early. Alternate: Missouri over South Carolina. Week 3: Miss. St. over LSU. Bulldogs steal one at home. Alternate: K-State over Vandy. Week 4: Arkansas over A&M. Hogs go to College Station and run wild. Alternate: Miss. State over Georgia. Week 5: Vandy over Florida. Florida looks ahead to LSU and pays the price. Alternate: South Carolina over A&M. Week 6: A&M over Alabama. The Aggies know how to play Saban. Alternate: Ole Miss over Auburn Week 7: Missouri over Georgia. Last two games vs. Bulldogs have come down the last play. Mizzou finally tilts one their way. Alternate: Auburn over LSU. Week 8: Tennessee over Alabama. Bama gets caught napping. Alternate: Ole Miss over LSU Week 9: Vandy over South Carolina. Musgrave starts looking over his shoulder. Alternate: Miss. State over A&M Week 10: Ole Miss over Kentucky. Alternate: Missouri over Florida Week 11: Georgia over Auburn. Bulldogs put a whipping on the Tigers. Alternate: South Carolina over Florida Week 12: Kentucky over Georgia. Bulldogs peak too soon. Alternate: Miss. State over Arkansas. Week 13: Georgia Tech over Georgia. Ground and pound. Alternate: Vandy over Tennessee.
Well, that gives the East the old SEC and the West the Big 12/SWAC with a couple of exceptions.
Damn straight, Skippy, damn straight !!
Right before Mizzou left the Big 12, the rumble was Texas; Texas Tech; OU; and Okie St. were off to the Pac 12 to make it the Pac16. At that time, OU said it would not move unless Okie St. was in the deal as well; ditto for Texas - Texas Tech. I can easily see OU & Okie St. moving to the Pac 12, along with Baylor and Texas Tech. As for Texas - they'd have to give up the Longhorn network if they went anywhere besides the Big 12. IF OU/ Okie St. boogie out, I see Texas still likely to stay in the Big 12 or become an independent like ND.
You can never have too many edge rushers ... Look at Denver in the Superbowl.
BamaTime ... I'd hate - just hate - to have you go away with the wrong impression, so hang with me here while I pull out those pesky facts and illuminate what I said. What I said: 1. Alabama is a great football program - that kind of accounts for all the SEC championships and National Championships and gives credit where credit is due. Since you don't like that statement and seem to think I'm talking out of the side of my neck like a car salesman, let me help you further. You've had four great coaches - Wallace Wade; Frank Thomas; Bear Bryant; Nick Saban. The rest? Meh ... 2. Alabama has the best team money can buy. - Nick Saban is the highest-paid college coach in the USA. - Alabama has the most expensive coaching staff. - Your university has poured millions of $$ into weight rooms, dorms, stadium and facilities ... in other words, you have the best team money can buy. 3. Nick Saban is the reason you are winning, and he's the best coach in college football. Hard to argue with seven SEC championships and four national championships in nine years - not to mention he's the only coach in FBS history to win a National title with two schools. 4. It's hard rebuilding, and Alabama is in for some fun when Saban moves on. In the years AFTER Bear Bryant and before Nick Saban, 1983 - 2007, Alabama won three SEC championships and one National title ... Doing the math for you that's roughly one SEC championship every eight years. Taking it further, the six coaches during that time compiled an overall winning percentage of 62% - impressive. HOWEVER, make the cut line after Gene Stallings retired in 1996, and from 1997-2007, Alabama compiled a winning percentage of 48% with no SEC championships and no National titles. Now, I know you don't like the word "floundered" but a .481 winning percentage over a decade of competition encompassing six coaches fits that word pretty nicely. "There are lies; dammed lies; and then there are statistics." Look it up, do your research ... and then get back to your ill-informed trolling and juvenile name calling. In the meantime, go away little boy ... adults are trying to have a conversation here.
Look - we get it. Alabama is a great football program with one of the best teams money can buy. In comparison, Mizzou doesn't stack up ... but then again, few programs can or would. Clemson, for example, went through decades of mediocrity until they got the right guy at the helm ... and then they proceeded to *gasp* beat your ass in the National Championship game. Point is, college ball runs in cycles. Alabama is on an incredible 'up' cycle due to one man - Nick Saban. Nick Saban is a fantastic college coach, and, unlike most of the rest of the SEC, can take a top recruiting class and turn out a top football team. The thing to remember is Alabama floundered for over a decade prior to Nick Saban ... or have you forgotten Bill Curry; Mike Dubose; Dennis Franchione; Mike Price; Mike Shula; and Joe Kines? Saban's 67 this year. Sooner or later, he'll retire; or have a performance slip; or the boosters will fall in love with the latest 'new guy'; or just leave. At that point, you get the joy of rebuilding ...
Oh ho. What a knee slapper. It is to laugh. Stop it - my ribs are hurting.
Well - not going to be mean in my response. The short answer is "Yes - we expect to win more than 2 or 3 SEC games." We return one of the most explosive offenses in the SEC; dynamic WRs; a 1,000 yard rusher; and a rock solid O-line. Defense has junked last year's idiotic two-gap system and gone back to the same scheme that had us ranked as the #6 overall defense in the nation two years ago. CB remains a point of concern, but overall the group looks much improved. Mizzou had a solid recruiting class this year, and filled some holes with JC transfers. I will readily acknowledge we don't get in the same recruiting neighborhood as Georgia; Tennessee; Florida; and others do - but the fact remains that we've won more SEC East titles in the last five years than those programs. Put another way - if all it took is "talented" ranked recruiting classes to win an SEC title in the SEC, Auburn; Ole Miss; Georgia; and Tennessee would be co-champions every year. Now - have you figured out a way to beat Clemson yet?
Well, given this is SDS, not surprised at bad writing and bad research. This is the same publication that was saying, going into last year, Mizzou's defense was the strength of the team and the offense would struggle. Reasons for optimism: (1) Odom was the DC when Mizzou's defense was ranked #6 overall in the nation. His mistake was hiring a DC who tried to implement a gap-control, read-and-react defense instead of the one-gap, penetrating defense Odom had run before. Odom forced the switch back to the old system for the last three games, and Mizzou won two - including a nice win over the Razorbacks. (2) We return seven of the starters and had two stellar JC transfers. The heart of the defense is the D-Line, and we look solid and deep. (3) Hiring Brick Haley to run the D-Line. Solid hire. Reasons for concern: (1) We lost both starting corners. (2) LB group lacks known depth. Overall I think we're going to be much better than last year.