Nick Saban critical of Alabama's 3 permanent opponents in new SEC scheduling model
Nick Saban is speaking out about the SEC’s new scheduling model. Saban is quoted in a new article from Ross Dellenger of Sports Illustrated, offering some insight into the SEC’s scheduling plan as a 16-team conference and sharing his disapproval of Alabama’s draw of permanent rivals.
Saban shared that Alabama is looking at having Tennessee, Auburn and LSU on its annual schedule when the conference adds Texas and Oklahoma in 2024.
“I’ve always been an advocate for playing more [conference] games,” Saban told Dellenger. “But if you play more games, I think you have to get the three fixed [opponents] right. They’re giving us Tennessee, Auburn and LSU. I don’t know how they come to that [decision].
According to Saban, the SEC is trying to balance schedules based on teams’ success over the past 10 years.
“They said they did a 10-year whatever,” Saban said to Dellenger. “Well, some of those years, Tennessee wasn’t as good as they’ve been in the previous 10 years, but now they are as good as they used to be before those 10 years.
“We got three teams and two of them are in the Top 10 and the other is in the Top 10 a lot,” Saban added. “Look historically over a 25-year history, and the three best teams in the East are Georgia, Tennessee and Florida. You look historically at 25 years, Alabama, LSU and Auburn are the three best teams in the West. So we’re playing them all.”
Saban questions whether 10 years is the right timeframe to use in the NIL era.
“They only did it over 10 years,” Saban added. “Now you’ve got name, image and likeness, which changes that whole dynamic, because it’s who has the most money to pay players, until they change the rules. I like playing more SEC games. I think it’s good for the game and good for the fans. I think they have a better chance to get the parity right doing the eight games. I’m talking about the balance of who has who.”
Will Saban speaking out have an impact on the SEC schedule?
Saban’s words obviously carry weight in the SEC as the conference’s longest-tenured active football coach and most successful.
It has long been expected that the conference would preserve many of its top annual rivalry games, like the Iron Bowl and the Third Saturday in October, under the new schedule. In the 3-6 rotating model, all SEC teams will play each other more frequently. It appears Saban is more concerned with annual balance than playing Alabama’s 3 biggest rivalry games on an annual basis.
Saban makes Alabama’s permanent rival draw sound like a foregone conclusion, but there hasn’t been an official announcement yet from the conference. We’ll see if his public comments lead to any changes.
Did I miss something? Did the SEC release a proposed schedule or is he leaking what’s been passed around to the coaches from Sanky?
The phone rings and “Stinky, this is Shorty. That schedule! What were you thinking . . . “
Reason #347 the dynasty is dead:
Our coach is scared and crying publicly again about not getting better treatment.
It’s getting to the point, anyone can see it now.
Almost as much as your obsession with Bama. Almost.
He’s not your coach. The statements you made prove that. He knows more about football than you ever will. His opinion has substance and meaning. While are nobody. RTR !!!
You and the cow t-rd. What are you ? A UGA ____ trying to count up to 40 ?
It was likely Sanky to the ADs and of course if you are Byrne the first thing you do is call Saben and ask him if it’s ok. Bama being matched up with AU, UT and MS state makes sense to me. I’d love to see Tennessee with Bama(3rd Sat), UK(Proximity) and Texas(Orange Bowl) every year. Not holding my breath for any creativity here.
Who is Saben and why would the Bama AD want to talk with whom ever this is.
I think he has a point. LSU, AU, and TN would be a tough row to hoe.
TN has had GA and Bama every single year for forever. Saban can figure it out until he retires. LSU is the only one that could be dropped for somebody else IMO.
Yeah, Tennessee and Georgia are not going to be permanent rivals.
Georgia’s will be Floriduh, Auburn, and Sakerlina, because Sakerlina thinks Georgia is a rival.
That’s how that will more than likely work out. I’m ok dropping Georgia. One less L to have to worry about. I wish it wasn’t but there is still a massive talent gap between the programs. TN will get Bama, KY and Vandy.
Saban wouldn’t be whining about playing TN if he hadn’t just lost to them. He got comfortable beating TN for all those years and now realizes that TN could be a legitimate yearly threat to Bama.
And don’t forget powerhouse Vandy.
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SUCK IT DONKEY
I touched a nerve about the Vols big rivalry.
No nerve. It’s a game we are required to play.
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I know that bothers every single Bama fan. 16 years is a long time.
It is not a requirement to be part of the 3 permanent teams going forward but Vols fans will demand it happens because of the so-called big rivalry. All this after Saban says it is not balanced to make Bama have permanent games against 3 teams who have won multiple NCs in the last 25 years. With Vandy the Vols get a guaranteed win every year. Easy to say Saban is whining with that kind of advantage built in.
A lot of teams have mandated rivalries that are required by law. I wasn’t aware of this until a few weeks ago. Georgia vs Georgia Tech and Florida vs Florida St. are required to happen regardless of the new SEC scheduling format.
There really isn’t a big advantage here anymore. You’ll play every SEC team in 2 years. Bama will get Vandy every other year. It’s not like you’re only going to play them once a decade like you do now.
Then you have no problem with TN picking up GA Bama and FL as your 3 permanent teams. Sure you don’t.
I’m all for it. To be the best, you need to beat the best. But just like Bama has to get Auburn, TN has to get Vandy.
Are you on the spectrum or something? What about this is eluding you? Or are you like your apparently fearful headcoach and don’t want to play a few challenging games? TN was a fine opponent when you were thumping them year in and year out by 3+ scores for 16 years.
Sure you would. Right. Like your coach who would be declaring it was not balanced. A fan who knows Vandy will be on his schedule permanently would say that. Not sure who has the bigger obsession with Bama you or Ron. It is close.
Fairly certain you tugged on my coattails to join this conversation fella. Don’t be so salty. It’s a bad look. Pathetic actually
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Not nearly as pathetic as obsessing about Bama football and what our coach says. We both know he has a legit point and someone getting Vandy as a permanent team really should not be to vocal about who gets who as permanent teams. You should be embarrassed to chastise others when Vandy is your gift.
Again, I DID NOT GET TO CHOSE THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION OF THESE UNIVERSITIES. I have as much control over this as you do with your coach being a whiny little b!t-ch.
By your logic, the Egg Bowl should be done away with. As well as the Iron Bowl. In-state rivalries just done with all together. Or you just drop Auburn and pick up Alabama A&M and everybody is happy. Right??
The ignorance is unreal. I completely stand behind the fact this wouldn’t be an issue if you hadn’t caught that L from LSU and TN this past season and missed the playoffs. You are the posterchild for why people can’t stand Bama. We respect Saban, but have ZERO respect for 99.9% of its fanbase.
*CHOOSE
Dang typo and SDS not allowing edits
If you think crime ridden Memphis on a muddy river is better than the white beaches, fishing, great seafood and Mardi Gras in Mobile then I did not realize I was debating with a disabled person. My apologies. Like Ron and Doug I realize how much pain Saban has caused you and know why your obsession occurs. Remember what Saban’s record is in revenge games. See you in T-Town this fall. Enjoy that easy Vandy win you say is due to geography while you chastise Saban for wanting the same thing in Miss State. Sorry for taking advantage of your disability.
First things first, never said Memphis was better than any place. Secondly, why don’t you go have a chat with Georgia about that Georgia Tech game they get to play at the end of the year.
Bama fans are a one trick pony. Can’t win then whine about everything. Literally everything. Hilarious
One more time for those in the back
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Suck on it Donkey
Also, meant to ask, Donk4Bama, that’s a weird username. Donk has 2 particular meanings.
1 – Male genitalia
2 – Woman’s @$$
That being said, are you GETTING plowed through by the football team or plowing through the team yourself? Just figuring out your username.
It refers to my first name plus the first letter of my last name. I was known for excessive size when I was younger but I had that nickname long before your definitions. It tells me I am communicating with a young pup who does not know what he is talking about. You did say any place in TN is better than any place in AL. I lived in that hellhold Memphis for 3 years. So glad the day I moved back to Bama. Continue that obsession with Bama and Saban. See you next year in T-town. Enjoy that basketball SEC Championship for Bama. LOL
Read it again homeboy. I said if you think it’s an upgrade to anywhere. Didn’t specify TN. Again, no obsession but you sure are all over every single TN article it seems. Commenting on every other fanbases post. Not sure why you’re calling me a youngpup. Think what you want. Unless you’re a groomer. If that’s the case, I’m in my mid 30s. Please do not get your rocks off thinking I’m sitting around talking TN football while playing Fortnite and Minecraft.
Enjoy that SEC Basketball trophy. You guys killed to get it……
Last time I checked TN was considered part of EVERYWHERE. I picked a part of everywhere that is certainly NOT better than the AL gulf coast in Memphis. I do not comment on TN articles but like this one about Saban you seem to live on Bama articles. As for young pup 35 is definitely that when you are retired. Just taking up for my team and coach and Saban has a good point. LSU is not a rival for Bama but Miss State is.
Auburn, Tennessee and Miss State would be the best permanent teams.
Nick disagrees, definitely Vandy-Mizz-Ms St
Kidding aside, I’d voted UGa pair up against Bama-FL-AU but Kirby overruled me…
Sure he did.
Welcome to the party! Nicky, try playing AL, GA and FL every year for 25 years.
That toughest Division Rival game cost us probably about 4-5 SEC Titles.
**SEC East Division Champ.
And that bastard Bin Laden likely cost UF a shot at a Natty in 2001, thanks to our game with y’all being moved to the end of the year after the brutal Evil Nole game.
You don’t believe that fairy tale do you?
I was thinking the same thing about Auburn playing bama uga and lsu every year.
Not that it would be any easier but FL Aub rivalry should be restarted.
Exactly. A great underappreciated rivalry.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Would be hard for Alabama to play Alabama every year. Tennessee is likely to keep Vandy as a permanent team so zero room to speak on the subject at hand for Vol fans.
Just because you don’t get to schedule UT Martin 12 weeks in a row doesn’t mean you get to whine about it.
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Suck it Donkey
Saban keeps this up the crying Jordan meme will turn into the crying Saban meme.
Try not to be so embarrassed that Vandy is your big rivalry to keep under the new format.
Ah. Yes. Vandy. The football game we are required to play due to geographical location.
Did you enjoy getting humbled last October? At least your basketball team is killing it this year
Nobody says it has to be one of the 3 permanent games going forward but Vols will demand it happens. Get that guaranteed win every single year. Try to keep up. This article is about the future not the past scheduling.
If you don’t think Saban would swap out Auburn for Samford or Alabama A&M in a heartbeat, you’re out of your mind. That’s the difference between TN and Bama fans. We don’t care who we play. We can lost to Georgia State or beat Alabama. Doesn’t matter. Bama cries more about their schedule than any other school in the nation.
And I do not think TN should have cancelled the Army game they should have played last year. Weak move.
It was Saban who proposed a 9 game SEC schedule years ago and your coach along with the rest whined about that being too difficult and would cost the conference money so don’t preach about Saban wanting an easy Schulz when your team voted against a 9 game conference schedule for the last several years. Enjoy that guaranteed Vandy win every year so you can talk big about how TN would play any combo of permanent teams. Sure you would.
I forgot, we didn’t do what Lord Saban said to do so we are all doomed. Silly me. I forgot to tell you how I voted on that matter a decade ago so let me inform you now. Oh wait, neither of us got to make that call so don’t try to act like you’re all superior here. Baby Nicky’s time is nearing an end. The town of Tuscaloosa will be a bigger laughing stock then it is now. Only thing holding that town together now is the football team and whatever crime ring the basketball team is running these days. Such a $h!thole broke-@$$ state that they can’t have a single pro sports team while TN currently has 3. Nobody WANTS to live in Alabama. Again, we can’t just pick up Vanderbilt and Auburn and swap them. As much as you might want it, it can’t happen. Sorry about your luck. It’s ok, you’ll get Vandy every other year now so enjoy it.
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Suck it Donkey
Appears those 15 years in a row created an obsession with Bama that cannot be cured. I lived in that hellhole called Memphis for 3 years. So glad to get back to the Alabama gulf coast. Tell phat Phil hello and Saban still smiles every time he thinks about getting him fired. Looking forward to another 15 in a row. Enjoy wearing that pokey orange shirts.
That loss seems to have driven Bama fans over the edge. Most TN fans don’t like Fulmer either so you might want to toss that “insult” out. It gets you nowhere. Only thing I’m obsessed with is the ignorance that spews out of the mouths of Bama fans. It’s honestly concerning for the wellbeing of that entire state. If you think the Bama Gulf Coast is an upgrade to anything, that gives me an idea of how well you’re doing in life. I’ll make sure I stop by your t-shirt stand next time I pass through on my way to somewhere nice. I’ll leave a nice tip.
Read a book. Broaden your insults and your vocabulary. 1998 and Phat Phil are beyond weak.
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Stay salty my friend.
I am doing very well in life and the beaches are very nice this time of year in Orange beach. You might want to get out of that cesspool called Memphis sometime and come visit but don’t wear that pukey orange while here.
Anytime I have to pass through Bama for any reason, I wear TN orange every single second I’m there. Last time I went to Oxford for business, I sat in front of the football stadium and at lunch while wearing TN gear. Might have even listened to rocky top a few times.
One thing we can obviously agree on is Memphis is no bueno. It does make you tough though. Gotta give it that. I don’t live in Memphis but I ain’t real far from it. The east side of TN is a thousand times better than the west side of the state.
I will agree that East TN is much better but all the football talent in that state comes from the Memphis area mostly. That Orange is still pukey. Go watch the I hate Tennessee video on YouTube as he says it better than I do. Now that Bama finally lost to TN young Bama fans now know the disdain older Bama fans have for TN. Basketball success is new to us.
Any success is new to any TN fan under the age of 16. TN orange is distinct. It’s significantly better than burnt orange that Texas wears.
This exchange here is why it’s important (IMO) that the TN/Bama rivalry continue. These programs are blue bloods of the SEC and have their ups and downs. They have produced elite talent and they can not stand each other at all. Respect what the other can do? Absolutely. It’s a fantastic rivalry that deserves to be continued.
I want the TN rivalry to continue just as much as Awbarn. I also want to play Miss State more than LSU. I have no problem with TN getting Vandy. Just keep the Bama game. I would never comment about the TN coach saying Bama , FL and GA would be unfair. Which it would be.
All that has zero to do with what Saban said. Unlike many young Bama fans that do not until this year realize how important it is to beat TN, I do. This game has to be continued but Bama does not consider LSU as a rival. Older Bama fans do see nearby Miss State as a team they want to play every year. A team they have played even more than TN. I am not interested in the other two teams TN gets so I do not understand why a Vol would be so interested in the Bama-LSU game. Other than only to hope Bama loses. That would indicate Bama jealousy. Sounds like it after this many comments.
Jealous? What person wouldn’t be slightly jealous of a team with so much success over the past 15 years. Every fanbase in the country is slightly jealous in some way of what Bama has done in the time that Saban has been there. It’s the arrogance of the fans that gets old (see literally any Bama comment section) and then the nonstop whining that comes after a loss. The other team is never just better. Bama could have just as easily been 8-4 as they could have been 12-0 last year. I thought we were going to be cordial towards the end of that comment chain but you had other plans.
Also, per your comments above, you most definitely care about who TN plays and you made it clear that it’s weak to get Vandy every year. We get it, you’d rather play MSU every year instead of LSU. But definitely not because they are a middle of the pack SEC team in their best years. A school that has been ranked #1 only once in their 120 year history. That’s one more than Vandy. Proximity and history doesn’t matter when you’re the great Alabama. Only when you’re TN, right? Also, you’ve played MSU maybe 2-3 more times then you’ve played TN. Don’t make it sound like it’s some exorbitant amount of games.
All that sitting around in retirement must be messing with your memory. Dementia does that to the old folks.
So jealous that obsession takes over and controls a person to the point they can’t stop being controlled by that team. You provide a perfect example. Vil fans do not lack for arrogance even when losing so much this century. You would never see me controlled by your team if the Vils coach said having Bama,FL and GA as permanent teams. In fact I probably would not comment at all about. I am not obsessed with your team as you are with mind. Try to get some help for that affliction.
Proximity would be Miss State which is what Saban is saying. Bested by a retiree once again.
Oh Donkey boy…. wrong again. You can’t help but start to drool every time you see I’ve commented here. You then comment, thinking you’ve done something of great value and importance. Only to show the entire world of your ineptitude and lack of critical thinking skills. Again, you’ll get your shot at Vandy every other year so don’t worry about that my boy.
Also, not sure why you think I’m controlled by your team. Only control I can think of is how that Hooker/Hyatt combo took control of that weak-@$$ Bama D last year and took that $h!t to the river.
SUCK MY VOLS DONKEY BOY
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Like I said I would never comment about what your Vils coach says or stay obsessed with your loser team that finally had a good season this century. Saban owns you and tha fact you keep coming back to a Bama article that has nothing to do with your team proves it. Must be sad to know Saban controls you so much. It is kind of funny to see how mad it makes you.
Not mad. Doesn’t appear that you comprehend that. That “retirement” you keep bragging about must actually be disability from some sort of obvious brain injury. Haven’t seen somebody repeat and ramble as much since the last state of the union. Seems you’re the one a bit bent out of shape. Is it because you got that ASS whooped last October? The Gulf only wishes it was as salty as your b*^$h ass.
Do me a favor, listen to some Dixieland Delight, get drunk and f#$k your sister. Or whatever the mentally handicapped do in your area.
That grade school comment shows just how much Saban and Bama owns you. Kind of funny to see it on display. Keep displaying ways of showing it. I guess 15 years of dominance will cause that to happen. It is amazing to see how much it is when you continue to comment on Bama when it does not involve your team. Thanks for the entertainment.
Your ignorance is unmatched ma’am.
BAMA 3 PERMANENT OPPONENTS
TN, LSU, AUBURN – Saban then proceeds to talk about all 3 teams and unfair it is to play them every year.
Please. Go ahead and tell me how this doesn’t involve TN. Go on now. I’ll wait. The real humor here is you hiding those tears from that ass whooping you took last October
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Don’t you forget it b-!tch boy. Saban don’t 0wn sh-!t except a spoiled ass fan base that thinks they have went out and won the 864 claimed championships themselves. I know you gotta get back to checking folks out at the dollar general so I won’t keep you any longer.
You can bet I would never be so obsessed with your coach if he complained about TN getting Bama,GA ands FL as his permanent teams which he would. Saban owns you and the grade school insults show how made he makes you and how it gets under your skin. It is funny to watch. I would never spend this much time on articles about your team. Enjoy being laughed at because of your obsession and what it is doing to you. Really funny to watch.
Is Saban saying he doesn’t want to play great quality competition each week?
I’m sure he’d much rather have Vanderbilt and Miss State along with Auburn.
Kidding. Don’t take that seriously.
As much as corndogs think LSU is a rival for Bama they are not. Bama has played Miss St more than any other team and it is 59 miles away. LSU is likely to pick up Arkansas as a permanent team. Get back to us when you want to pick up GA and FL along with Texas A&M as your permanent teams.
Arkansas will likely pick up any combination of A&M, Missouri, OU, and Texas.
I can see LSU picking up A&M, Ole Miss, maybe Texas or Miss State.
However, I don’t see the Gumps getting their way not having to play LSU every year. Sorry.
Considering Bama is 55-27 against LSU I see no problem with it…
0-1 under Kelly
2-1 against Kelly.
Keep this fact in mind: Sankey promised that OU and Texas would continue to play each other every year. So these two teams would have to be permanent opponents.
The Criminal Tide is not our rival. We despise your team and cheer for whatever team you are playing. Your team grows increasingly irrelevant every year. And, we don’t eat the ordinary corndogs that are considered a necessary vitamin in Alabama and consumed there in the bazillions. Maybe, if they came stuffed with crawfish we might reconsider.
With that kind of rant it shows how much corndogs think it is a rivalry. It is not for Bama fans though.
The corn dog thing is just dumb.
Not as dumb as the Gump thing.
Everyone at least knows where the gump thing came from. Virtually no one using the corn dog reference knows where that came from.
Everyone knows that the whole state of LA has that corn dog smell. Especially New Orleans. Ah the aroma of a county fair all the time.
So you’ve never been. Got it.
Many times and that smell is always there. Especially New Orleans.
You’re not the least bit credible. Doubling down on stupid is not a good look.
Says the guy that calls Bama fans Gumps and thinks it is a rivalry when Bama fans don’t. Thanks for confirming that Mr. Doubling down on stupid.
You are an idiot. I’ve never once called Bama fans gumps and I’ve never talked about Bama as being a major rival. My preferred three for LSU are Florida, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss. Like I said, you have no credibility.
“Everyone knows where the Gump thing came from.” Busted. The corndog thing has been around for years and the Gump thing was invented by LSU fans due to Bama owning LSU over the years especially in Baton Rouge.
You are still an idiot. I watched the movie. Everybody did. I’ve read people calling Bama fans that on this site. I have still never called Bama fans that and you still don’t know the history of the corn dog term. That’s reality. And you’re still an idiot.
“the Gump thing was invented by LSU fans…”
Rhodes scholar material , I tell ya. Run Donk run…lol
Type Leg type. Helps relieve that Bama obsession.
The idiot would be someone that uses that term for Alabama fans whose team owns LSU in Baton Rouge and uses a movie as a derogatory term and then gets upset when it is applied to them. Sounds like someone realizes the term fits. Pew!!
Bama is 0-1 against LSU with Kelly. *THAT* is where things stand now in the present. And from the sound of your whiny coach, you might better get used to it.
Saban is 2-1 against Kelly and I bet he would whine about a GA, Bama and Auburn schedule. How about FL GA and Auburn. Of course that will not happen but you can bet Kelly would blow a gasket if it did happen.
Still the village idiot. You should probably take a break from the site. Maybe change your profile and try harder next time. Your tears are amusing though.
Condescension is the last resort of a loser. I am not the one obsessing with LSU on an article about Kelly. Sounds like someone never got over Saban coming to Alabama. Have another corndog. The aroma follows you everywhere. Try to take a break from obsessing about Bama.
The permanent rivals should be the most important historic rivalries. “Balance” shouldn’t come into the equation there at all. The SEC can balance the schedule with the other 6 games.
Geographically, Ole Miss, Miss State, and either A&M or Alabama would make the most sense for LSU.
To be honest, LSU is now in the Western portion of the SEC so A&M, UT, and Arkansas or OU would make the most geographically.
its not going to be equal to all teams. It cant be. Ut has played a doozy of a schedule for quite some time. I am all for letting someone else or two take that torch and run with it. Why not bama?
Yup. It’s funny because Auburn and Tennessee have been put in that very scenario for decades now and (minus AU rescheduling UGA to anything but November) they haven’t seemed to make a big stink about it.
Is Coach Nick trying to say he takes issue with playing in the big bad SEC every year?
Think Kirby would be okay with Auburn Florida and LSU as permanent teams? I doubt it.
I’d love to see us play Bama every year but the way we’ve kicked them off the mountain top recently, probably wouldn’t be much of a rivalry
Get back to me when you get that 6th NC in the next 10 years. I remember FL saying the same thing about GA just a dozen years ago.
I hear ya, donk…but you know the old saying – “Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory.”
Got to get our shots is while we can…the view never lasts as long as the memory of the view….
Considering that no team has won 3 NCs in a row you might really take that to heart.
And considering no one ever won back to back natties in the 4 team CFP Era it appears that making history is what Kirby is doing best. Not going to be easy but I like our chances if we can keep our star players out of nascar cars!
It is easier to get a NC when 4 teams are invited that when only two teams are invited. The # 3 and # 4 teams had zero chance of winning the NC prior to the playoff. Your team did in 2021. Harder for Bama in 2011 and 2012. Bama did it in 1978 and 1979 and 1964 and 1965 and should have been NC in 1966. Get back to us when GA does that.
“It is easier to get a NC when 4 teams are invited that when only two teams are invited…” That’s some serious lack of thinking right there, Donkr …lol. You do know that 7 of the 18 CFP finalgame participants were number 3 and4 seeded teams don’t you?
So you think the #3 and #4 teams had a chance to be NC before the playoff? Please explain how that could happen.
That isn’t what you said, what you said, and I quote – “It is easier to get a NC when 4 teams are invited…”
You know, if you set that goalpost in a deep enough hole and fill the hole with grout, it’s less likely to constantly move…
When you have to play 2 games in different parts of the country to win a natty vs only 1 game, it certainly isn’t “easier”
Tell me how the #3 or #4 team could win a NC prior to the playoff? Waiting on how easy it was for them to win it like GA did in the playoff system.
Sure, what year would you like to discuss first, perhaps 1990? 1991? 1997? 2003? How about 1965? There are so many, we can start wherever you like…would you like to discuss the LSU-Bama mulligan season? How about Doug Flutie?
You mean the season where Bama and LSU were ranked number #1 and #2? Please explain how the #3 and #4 teams in ANY those years had a chance to win the NC when they certainly would have had a chance under a 4 team playoff it it was allowed back then. Thanks for proving my point. At least oltoday those teams have a chance unlike back then.
No. Perhaps you should reread the article.
UGA should have UF, AU, and either UT or SC as permanent.
UF should have UGA, AU, and either UT or LSU as permanent.
UGA will get SC most likely. It’s the only SEC game that USC considers a rival, and they recruit heavily in Ga. They will insist on it.
Lmao. Now he suddenly decides to play both sides of the fence. It was less than 10 years ago Auburn said they would be willing to go to the East to allow Mizzou in the West helping the geographic distribution of the conference, then Saban whined about having to choose them as the permanent rival and lose TN if that were to happen. Now he’s whining about keeping both of them as a permanent rival and not getting an easier hand like say Missouri instead. Unreal.
Says the world renown Saban hater.
There’s a reason why they phrase it the ‘brutal’ truth. It’s just really hard for some people to handle.
The only thing that’s brutal is your lack of comprehension and necessity. Your opinion doesn’t mean “brutal” truth.
It’s not an opinion, it’s just a really bad look to whine no matter what, which he’s obviously doing. It’s tough for you to hear and handle, I get it.
“It’s not an opinion”
That is literally all you posted… Well that and just some completely wrong assumptions.
The only assumption I made was scheduling Missouri instead, he didn’t literally say that.
“It was less than 10 years ago Auburn said they would be willing to go to the East to allow Mizzou in the West helping the geographic distribution of the conference, then Saban whined about having to choose them as the permanent rival and lose TN if that were to happen. ”
Really? Please tell me the article where you can find Saban making those comments in?
“It’s not an opinion,”
Literally every word you said was an opinion. Try again.
If you read between the lines, it’s not about Auburn. It’s about the combination of TN and LSU when the future looks like BOTH will be perennial top 15 teams.
They played all 3 teams every year for decades, why is it an issue now? That’s why his whining is comes off as just whining to whine.
During the decades you cited, very rarely all three teams were powerhouses. LSU had difficulty head-to-head versus Bama for the thee decades of the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. The Bama -LSU rivalry was very one-sided between ’71 and ’99: Bama 22 wins, LSU 6 wins, one tie. It wasn’t until the 2000’s and Saban got to LSU when LSU turned the tables and started dominating. Saban goes to Bama and it’s some back-and-froth with Miles. Obviously, Bama started dominating UT after Fulmer and when Saban started. Now, both LSU and UT are programs with both stability and, due to NIL, purchasing power from large fanbases that dominate their respective states. Then, Booches, consider this: The SEC has owned college football such that only about 8 – 10 teams outside the SEC are relevant. What does that mean? If the SEC wants four teams in a 12 team playoff, they can’t make the top 8 teams all play each other. That means the fourth team won’t make it in.
There were never any discussions about Auburn changing divisions. Only speculations by the media.
Of course it never got traction with the SEC because Saban whined about it. But Pat Dye, Malzahn, and plenty of ‘non-media’ people spoke quite a bit and brought up some quality discussion about why Auburn should be in the East.
Still blaming everything on Saban… Did he cause the Missouri Hunger strike too?
Not blaming Saban for anything, but I have no problem calling out his whining, obviously.
Actually, you’re the one just whining..
It’s funny though.
Then you would have no problem with Missouri playing Ga, LSU and Bama as permanent teams. Sounds fair right?
I’m fine with dropping the rivalry with LSU. Keep Tennessee and Auburn and add TAMU, SC, or Ole Miss.
Why drop LSU and add Tamu, SC or Ole Miss? Be specific.
Should be MissSt. Bama has played them more than any team and is only 50 miles apart.
Bama should keep MSU.. They have played them more than anyone in the conference and the two schools are less than 60 miles apart.
As Booches94 stated, Bama has played Tennessee, LSU, and Auburn for a long time without complaining. Why pitch a childish tantrum now?
This^^^
Then you have no problem changing out Vandy as a permanent rival for LSU right?
I didn’t see a childish tantrum… Also if you’re going to talk about a change the time to try to do it is when something is about to be forced with adding two more teams…
I see why the Auburn fan calls you a liar.
Becuase like i stated.. Bama has played MSU more than anyone…
Not that I totally disagree with you but by that logic Bama should play LSU and TN as well, and drop the Iron Bowl…that can’t happen!
Why? Bama has played both Auburn and LSU 87 times… Please explain the logic?
Maybe the site I was looking at is incorrect. The chart I saw on sport reference dot com shows 81 games with Bama leading Auburn 48-32-1 vs leading 85 and leading LSU 54-26-5. It also shows Vandy ahead of AU with 85 total games although that head to head (63-18-4) is almost as sadly pathetic as the Ms St head to head of 84-16-3.
vs total of 85 and leading LSU 54-26-5^
What site? Winsi lists 87 games.. Wiki 87 games.. Auburn University lists 87 games…
Ah sports ref… They probably removed vacated games…
Yep, appears so, looks like that sight excluded games prior to 1902 as well…
Bama played there first game in 1893 against auburn yet sport ref doesnt start till 1902…
Because Bama has played Miss St more than any team and it is only 50 miles away. LSU is not a big rival for Bama.
You are 84-16 against them, go ahead and admit it, you and Saban want a cupcake…I like candid honesty
I want a fair and balanced schedule. When is GA going to give up that cupcake every year called Georgia Tech?
Just make all 9 conference games rotating games. Play every opponent 6 times in 10 seasons. Problem solved.
That’s not happening.
Why not? It’s Easy. No fan or program complaining and no one can claim preferential treatment.
Well,for one thing, it’s in the Media contracts that certain games will be played every year.
JTF – The Contracts are already in flux with the Oklahoma and Texas joining. My suspicion is no one really CARES about all teams having an equal schedule. Rather, fan base prefers the opportunity to whine and cry about future hardships.
No. The contract was signed in 2020.
Now, the SEC is going to float the 9 game schedule as an inducement to increase the amount. But no way is ESPN going to allow the conference to mess wit mega ratings games like the Iron Bowl.
You can argue all day. But it’s not happening.
So the Iron Bowl and World’s largest cocktail party would not happen every year? Not happening.
Saban does come off sounding whiney. Hes played a tough schedule for years and won handily. Maybe just deal with it. I wonder who else will get the more difficult end of this reorganization and how much those coaches will whine. Fans doing it is expected. Coaches not so much, at least publicly. Saban has gotten whinier on multiple issues in the last year or two. Old age creeping in…hes losing control…hes done… oh wait he just landed the #1 class…
It is about fairness going forward. We could forget about expansion and go back to 14 teams and he would be okay with that as well.
No one whines and cries like Nick Saban. NO ONE.
It’s hilarious how he uses the only good year the Hillbillies have had in 25 years for his argument, you know, considering that most people expect them to fall back to 7-8 wins this upcoming season.
You’d think someone with as many national titles as Saban wouldn’t be such a whiney, insecure little b–ch, but here we are.
Georgia used to be that way always losing to Florida. It is about long-term planning.
“insecure little b–ch, but here we are.”
You summed yourself up nicely…
BUT BUT BUT… MOOKIE AND WILSON!!!
BamaTime it’s good to see you again. You have been in the witness protection program for Alabama Fan losers.
The thing about obsessed people is they always show up because the point of that obsession controls them. We have Doug as proof of that.
If you were worried about me you could have just asked your mom how I’ve been…
Cry me a river, Auburn has had to play Bama AND UGA every single year, and will continue to do so. It doesn’t get any harder than that.
Would you like to take LSU as your 3rd permanent team since it is not a problem for you?
The funny thing is that those same teams have been on Bama’s schedule every year already. Nothing new here
The new thing is that it is now 3 permanent teams versus 6 permanent teams now. It needs to be fair. How about we take Missouri rather than LSU. Vandy would be okay as well. See how that works?
“Well, some of those years, Tennessee wasn’t as good as they’ve been in the previous 10 years, but now they are as good as they used to be before those 10 years.”
They had one good year, Nick. In 2020 everyone thought UF would be an unfair matchup for us every year, having to play AU and Tn also…
The only team in the SEC that should be b!t(hing is Vandy, whoever there 3 are will be unfair…go have a drink and relax Nick. You’re stressing out the Aflac duck…
their 3^
Think Kirby would be okay with Bama, Auburn and LSU every year? Sure he would.
No, but I would, how about you…who wouldn’t want to watch UGa and Bama every year? No LSU though, got to keep the WLOCP going…
It appears Kirby is smarter than his fanbase.
Was that ever in doubt? lol
Thanks for providing a good example.
So then, should I put you down for against UGa-Bama annually?
Sure because we don’t have much history together and Bama has a big lead in the head to head. Not a big deal to Bama fans like Auburn and Tennessee and nearby Miss State 50 miles away whom Bama has played more than any other team. Dawgs are just not that popular historically. Try not to feel so disrespected. It is just not that big of a deal to a blue blood. You have done well for a newbie to the big dance.
I don’t blame you for feeling that way, if I were a gump fan and seeing how old Nick’s getting versus how young Kirby is, I’d want no part of UGa the next decade or so either
You have a long way to catch up. 15 years ago Florida owned you. They can again. Keep trying to get blue blood status. It might happen over the next 50 years. Maybe. Until then you are this decade’s version of Florida.
Actually……….in this decade we are 2 for 3 in natties (so far, it’s early), that sounds more like a bigger badder version of Bama. In fact, we have already won as many in this decade as Bama did in the last decade, CFP format wise. BTW Florida has never won a CFP game, much less a trophy (or two back to back).
Last time I checked 2011,2012,2015 and 2017 equals 4 NCs in one decade. Can’t count them until you win them as much as Dog fans think the will win 10 in a row. I guess GA schools don’t teach math very well.
Yes. Florida did not get to win a NC from the #3 spot like GA did. Newbies to the big show are so cute.
White flag wave. I am not worthy, donk. I have searched my entire reportoire of dummm shttt to say and I got nothing to match this.
I accept your surrender and acceptance of the truth. It is a first step in ending that Bama obsession. Good luck with the therapy.
Sankey: “Eh, let him whine. He’ll retire soon anyway.”
Cry cry baby, yea cry cry baby!!!!!
I was hoping we could get ball state but georgia beat us to them.
Bama ’88 alum here. Here me out on this. I have lived in Dallas, TX the last 30 years and I would love to have Bama take on Auburn & Tennessee of course, but the 3rd permanent would be Texas Longhorns. It will never happen, but I hate UT so much that it would give me so much pride to kick their buttocks each and every year so I could rub it in the all these snobs in the DFW area. Love playing LSU too, but make a new rivalry with Bama-Texas.
UT being University of Texas – since where I live this is what they call themselves. We all know the “real UT” is our buddies up north of Bama, the Vols
Everybody dislikes Texas. Not the team but the fans.
He certainly has a point. There are six traditional powers in the SEC and that would have Alabama playing three of them. I doubt many, if any, other SEC teams get three traditional powers. I’m fine with them dropping us and picking up MSU.
Well said.
Is this a preview of Saban’s post 2025 excuse for not winning it all?
It sure looks like it.
Chris – topher Smith was also asked about which 3 opponents Georgia should play each year in the SEC with the new scheduling model expected once Oklahoma and Texas enter the league. Smith said it should be Florida, Auburn and Tennessee.
They have literally played those three schools every year for decades…so why is he complaining? Every team plays every everyone at least every other year. There are no easy schedules in the SEC. His schedule should be easier if the West is better than the East which is what everyone in the West says every year…Alabama will play 3-4 East teams every year vs. 2.
Every SEC West team currently has 6 permanent games. It is going to 3 permanent teams. He is talking about fairness as much as possible. With the exception of Vandy every team is going to be hard for Missouri so it does not matter the 3 permanent teams are for them. Otherwise just rotate 9 conference games. The 3 permanent team assignments have nothing to do with today’s divisional play.
They are not permanent. They can be adjusted every 4 years.
Can be is the prime word. The won’t be. Going to stop playing Florida every year? I don’t think so.
So UF / UGA is the only game under consideration?
Fans are not going to give up the Iron Bowl, Cocktail Party or Egg Bowl every year. I know of no real GA fan that would give up playing Florida every year.
They are not permanent games and can be changed every four years. It’s not that hard to understand.
Do you really think GA-FL will be going away in 4 years? It’s not.
Nope. But I think UGA/ USC might. Or UGA/ Kentucky might.
Or Bama/LSU might. Or about 100 other combos.
You have an extreme lack of critical thinking skills.
So you are now saying they won’t change every 4 years. Make up you mind.
So dumb. Mind boggling so.
Enjoy that plate of crow and tell us do you think they will be permanent or not. You have supported both permanent and changing every 4 years. Which is it?
Good god you dumbazz. They are not permanent. Some may change and some may not. The point, which you cannot seem to grasp, is they can be changed every four years.
So you are saying GA- FL is going away in 4 years. Got it. You are wrong. It isn’t.
Where did I say that? Can you read?
You keep saying the permanent teams can change every four years then you say it will never go away. Make up your mind.
They are not permanent. It’s possible to change them in four years.
So now you are back to saying the FL-GA game could go away. Is this your final point of view or is it back to that game never going away ever? I wish you would make up your mind.
“Every SEC West team currently has 6 permanent games”…wrong answer donk, try again…
Not going forward. This about the future not the past. 3 is different than 6 and it should be fair. Have made up your mind about making it permanent or changing it every 4 years? You have approved of both in this article.
Not to be confused with JTF, I gave no opinion on permanent 3 versus 4 year revisions, but I believe his point is valid in that the SEC will reserve the right to change the 3 perm games (in the best innterest of all, you can be sure!).
My point out to you is that you are incorrect when you say that every SEC West team has (this year and has had) 6 permanent games every year…
The teams in each division has had 6 permanent games within the division since A&M and Missouri joined. It is now going to 3 permanent teams and no divisions. Top two teams play for the championship. Math is not your strong point.
Every SEC team currently has 7 annual conference opponents, not 6 Forest
There are currently 7 teams in each division. Each team plays the SIX other teams in the division now each year. Unless you are counting the Spring inter squad game as the 7th game it is SIX permanent games under the current system within the division. The ONE permanent game in the other division counts less than the division games because head to head is the tie breaker. Just ask Bama this year. Either way it means nothing when considering 3 permanent teams being fair going forward Einstein.
Perhaps, perhaps not…but that wasn’t your original statement, “Every SEC West team currently has 6 permanent games”…not true, they have 7 (some have 8)
I guess I assumed you thought I was talking about the division rather than the conference to get to the championship. I gave you too much credit. Will not do that again. At least I did not say the new format would compare to the old format and would be the same with one extra game added. 3 permanent teams is still not the same as 6 OR 7 permanent teams. Take your pick because neither is the same as 3 permanent teams like you were saying.
I thought proximity was supposed to play a role in the deciding factor. While I don’t mind playing LSU, I’m really going to miss not playing State every year. They are just right over the line from us. It would be crazy not having them as a permanent.
Nothing else works!!!
Complete division round robin determines the division champ.
No permanent rival games count for championship unless they are same division members.
Non-division games between conference members don’t count toward division champ AND ROTATE EQUALY, so if you are not in the same division and you must play every year, it’s not going to be considered a conference game or a conference outcome for anything. You will simply be playing one more conference game as an exhibition. Enjoy you lost opportunity to avoid in-fighting vs getting to know the USA world of college football.
Divisions are going away so this makes no sense.
That is a shame, too. After all, Bama is the only team I know of that won a natty in the same year they didn’t win a division or conference…guess you guys are going to have to earn it in the same manner everyone else has to now…
Like being the #12 team in the playoff that has a better chance of being NC in 2024 than it did under the 4 team playoff? Suppose GA shouldn’t have been the 2021 playoff when they didn’t win the SEC championship?
They won their division and wanted Bama in the final 4 because they knew they would dominate them so laid down in the SECCG…everyone knows that.
Bama couldn’t even beat out Auburn in the west, good thing UGa knocked them out of the playoffs for y’all…
A division is not a conference championship and those years Bama got in the playoff without going to the SECCG they would have easily beaten the east champ. And to say GA lost on purpose after 6 losses in a row to Bama is laughable. You can do better than that for someone so obsessed with Bama. Must be tired. Get some sleep rather than living on SDS.
Tell me again why you should keep Ms St as one of the 3 perms…..
because we’re 85-18, cupcakes are delicious…
Like SC for GA. At least Miss St is very close to Bama and Bama has played the more than anybody. Guess you would be okay with FL Auburn and LSU for GA permanent teams? Sure you would.
I’Ve already gone on record for wanting Auburn Florida and Gumpville. SCeast has already declared they don’t want Georgia
You are on record as wanting that because you know it will never happen. As much as you obsess about Bama the feeling is not mutual among blue blood Bama fans. As for you wanting those 3 ties Kirby would go bonkers if that happened and you are a liar and we both know you don’t want that schedule. I guess 2nd and 26 affected some people for life.
Why is that, donk? Kirby is 5-1 against those 3 teams the past couple of years…unlike Bama against Aubie-LSU-Tn
Why don’t you ask Kirby if he thinks an Auburn Florida and LSU permanent schedule would be fair for GA. You are probably going to get Auburn, Florida and that pushover SC. So you are complaining that Saban wants Miss State when GA gets SC is pretty pathetic.
And once again brilliance escapes you, my friend.
This century Bama is only 4-3 vs that soft cootU team but are 20-3 vs Miss St…I can see why you are so adamant wanting maroon cupcakes. Scared is no way to go thru life old boy
Anybody that calls Georgia Tech a rivalry game has no standing to challenge others about what is a rivalry and what is a current rivalry. Get back to me when Georgia drops that annual cupcake.
Yes, about that, Donk…our cupcake has 4 natties in 100+ years of football, your wannabee cupcake has 1 SEC title in the same 100+ years…I get why you and Nick want them so badly.
Yeah Princeton had a lot of NCs as well. That was a weak defense of cupcake Georgia Tech and I would gladly exchange Miss State for the fighting engineers. Since you will probably get SC instead of LSU I could see why you feel the urge to say Saban is whining. Easy when it happens to somebody else.