Bob Bowlsby has been in the middle of the College Football Playoff expansion talks, and has made his position clear as the sport looks for a new postseason model.

“I continue to believe that the 12-team model is the right model,” Bowlsby, the Big 12 Commissioner, said on Sirius XM. “I don’t think 8 goes quite far enough, and there are others who believe that way as well.”

Bowlsby said there’s great debate about automatic qualifiers regardless of record or rank for each of the autonomy conferences, which is fine for the Big 12, he said. Bowlsby also believes that the 6 highest-ranked conference champions ought to get the initial berths in the Playoff.

“That’s sort of an eat-what-you-kill environment,” he said. “I do think that the plan that came out in June was well-received and even among media pundits, I think it received very little in the way of legitimate criticism.”

Bowlsby admitted that he’s frustrated with where the Playoff stands now, in a stalled position. But admits that the group must get back to the table and figure it out.

“The irony of all of it is 18 months from now we’re going to be up against a hard time deadline because we’re going to be getting to Year 12 and there isn’t a Playoff past Year 12,” he said. “We will end up with an expanded Playoff, I don’t think there’s any question about it.”

The only question that remains is the timeline for when the change comes, he said.