nah, they disabled the comments in the article i'm referencing, so i figured i'd just throw it in here.

with that echo chamber arrogance of max kellerman and the other talking heads in bristol, is it any wonder espn is dying?

Ohio State has a new president, who's only been on the job for about a month. she probably doesn't have the courage or wherewithal to force the big 10 to do anything. and the previous president's politics leaned pretty heavily to the left. so in all likelihood, he'd have been in favor of cancelling the season anyway.

the average age of those who have died from covid is 78. not many 78 year olds attending classes on any campus.

This whole thing has been nothing but a disastrous circus, with weasel warren as the ringleader in clown shoes. All of the ADs, coaches, most of the players, and pretty much the entire big 10 fan base wanted this season. The decision came down to weasel warren and..........? who knows? at least a couple of university presidents are 'uncertain' that an official vote actually took place. So if these presidents aren't even sure if there was an official vote, it likely came down to weasel warren making the call, and the presidents nodding along like a bunch of academic bobbleheads. is there any doubt that had jim delany still been the commissioner, there'd be a season? none on my part. ego is an apt description of what happened. weasel warren loved wallowing in the love heaped on him from the covid-mad media, for being the first to release a conference only schedule. his ego made him assume that if he cancelled the season, the rest of the country would just fall in line, and he'd be heaped with praise again. what a shock all of this anger must be to him. the fact that he's surprised by all of the anger tells you all you need to know about his qualifications to be the commissioner of a power 5 conference. he doesn't understand the game. college football is a whole other world from the nfl. he's in way over his head, and his ego is writing checks his a$$ can't cash. Ohio State has already announced that cancelling the fall season is going to cost the school $130 million dollars. add in the other 13 schools, and weasel warren's ego will have cost the big 10 over a billion dollars. that money would've gone to fund scholarships for athletes in other sports. iowa has already cut several programs, and you can bet other schools won't be far behind. those kids will be without their teams, and those coaches will be without their jobs. That doesn't even take into consideration all of those small businesses that needed college football to be the lifeline to save their livelihoods, after having their businesses devastated by the lockdowns. high school football is happening in Ohio, but while those high school kids are playing, the Ohio State Buckeyes will be sitting in the dorms dreaming about what could've been. Ohio State has a new president, she's been on the job about a month. she says she was 'in favor' of having a season. so did she not have the courage to stand up and say that, or is she just saying that to keep the target off her back? gene smith says he would've voted to play the season, so did this rookie president just ignore her veteran AD? was there ever even an actual vote on it? a lot of questions remain unanswered. Ohio State certainly has the clout to force the big 10's hand, but with a rookie president, they're unlikely to do it. the whole thing is an unmitigated disaster, and kevin weasel warren should be out of a job right now, but he probably won't even take a pay cut. what a clown he is.

what an unmitigated disaster this weasel has been for the big 10. can we get jim delany back, please?

whoa, hold up. an article that has any combination of 'beat Ohio State' and 'michigan' in it, even vicariously, has lost all credibility. it made my stomach churn just typing that. and if i were going to pick only one sec team to root for this year, it'd probably be lsu (despite 2007). i still have some good feelings about Joe Burrow and the tigers. really wish it would've been the Buckeyes playing lsu last year.

i know it's easy to mock the big 10 right now, but the vast majority of fans, players and coaches want the season to happen, and are feeling pretty devastated that it's not. it's just a handful of gutless, spaghetti-spined stuffed suits, with support from the talking heads toeing the party line, keeping it from happening. with how crazy this year has been, we need college football now more than ever, and it's really depressing that we won't have it. i've never liked the sec. nothing personal, but as a Buckeye fan, i've taken a lot crap from sec fans since the early 90s, but this year, i'll be rooting for the sec, acc and big 12 to have great seasons. and then i'll hope that your success is enough to cost weasel warren his job. i mean, if your conferences can pull off the season successfully, it'll mean weasel warren's decision will not only have cost the big 10 tens of millions of dollars, it'll have untold cost on all of those small businesses that make their whole year on college football season. after the devastation of the lockdowns, most of those businesses are hanging on by a thread, and were counting on college football season to get back in the black. and now it's not happening.

keep nebraska, and get rid of warren. heard an interview this afternoon with Ryan Day. he's still pissed off. he didn't say those words, but it was there in every answer he gave. it sounds like he'd be all in with what frost and nebraska want to do. he says he's still looking at every option. sounds like franklin/penn st and hairball/tsun would be on board too. unfortunately, it sounds like ad gene smith is going to put the kibosh on Ohio State looking outside the conference this season. i don't think Day has the juice to override smith, the way Tressel or Urban would, so it doesn't sound like it's going to happen. but how great would it be to see a mutiny, and have the marquee programs of the big 10 play in other conferences this season. i think that would be enough for kevin warren to get his walking papers.

yeah, delaney left him the keys to a finely tuned machine, and warren crashed it in less than a year. certainly, there have been challenges, but he has not handled them well. seems like he's in such a rush to be the first to take action, and get that media praise, that he doesn't consider alternative options, or think his choices through. i mean, why release a modified conference only schedule one day, get everyone's hopes up, and then cancel everything a few days later? he was asked what changed in those 6 days, and he dodged the question. in his interview with BTN, he dodged a lot of questions. he provided no answers, just a bunch of platitudes. not too many people happy with him up here right now.

what an embarrassing clown show. the big 10 went from jim delaney to this clown. so, playing this fall is too dangerous for big 10 players, but his son playing at mississippi state is just fine. maybe Ohio State can join the sec or acc for a season.

i can see you're not really familiar with the big 10. it's not too hard to convince anyone of anything. you just have to look at the numbers. the big 10 shares revenue, so all big 10 programs have pretty good resources. as far as talent, that's a function of recruiting by the coaches hired by the school. some schools made better decisions with their hiring than others. that happens in every conference though. the big 10 features some of the biggest, loudest stadiums in the country. playing in a whiteout at penn st, or at wisconsin, or xichigan, or iowa, or nebraska, or michigan st is extremely loud, with electric atmospheres. even games against a purdue, northwestern or indiana can be very physical. the big 10 brand of football is physical and hard hitting, and it takes a physical toll. that toll adds up over the course of the season. that's why i call it a war of attrition. that is a very apt description. as for michigan state, while dantonio was there, they were a power run team, with big offensive lines, and aggressive defenses. between 2010 and 2017, they won at least 10 games 6 times, and they won 3 big 10 championships. they finished ranked in the top 15 all six of those years, including ending the 2013 season ranked #3. for most schools, that'd be considered 'rolling'.

nothing to show for it? you should check out the Woody Hayes Athletic Center. it's stacked floor to ceiling with national championship trophies, a whole bunch of rose, sugar, orange, fiesta and cotton bowl trophies (and some trophies from a few lesser bowls), 39 big 10 championship trophies, 7 heisman trophies, and a ton of other individual trophies. that's an awful lot of hardware for 'nothing to show for it'. they're also the winningest program in college football history, and that has-been rival is number two (although to be fair, i'm ok with calling them has-beens, or any other negative name you want to call them).

you can LYDAO all you want, it doesn't change the fact that your use of the term is inaccurate. the term 'one hit wonder' is used to describe a musical act that has success with one song, and then fades away into obscurity. that certainly does not describe Ohio State. i know it probably helps your self esteem to look down on a team like Ohio State, who does not yet have 2 cfp championships. especially considering the outcome of that game between the Buckeyes and tide, during the first cfp. i'm sure it probably still stings, and calling Ohio State a 'one hit wonder' probably helps you sleep at night. so you just keep on doin' you, lil' trooper. you go ahead and say your prayers to darling nicki, snuggle way down in your warm blanky, and drift off to sleep, secure in the thought that Ohio State has one less cfp championship than your tide. rockabye baby.

they're there, deuce, look harder. if you need me to find them for you, you just let me know.

congrats on being a 2-hit wonder. we'll just overlook the fact that there's an asterisk next to both of them.

all right then, there are 126 0-fer teams, 2 1-hit teams, and 2 2-hit teams. the list of teams with hits is pretty exclusive, and the Buckeyes are in the club. it's all about perspective.

yeah, but even if you're limiting it to the cfp era, it's still doesn't fit. the cfp has only been around 6 years now, and only 4 schools have won it. Ohio State is one of those 4. not to mention, over those 6 years, the Buckeyes have won 4 conference titles. they have a 75-8 record. in addition to winning the first ever cfp national championship game, they've won the sugar bowl, the fiesta bowl, the cotton bowl, and the rose bowl. they've beaten an sec champion (bama), a big 12 champion (oklahoma), the pac12 champion 3 times (oregon, usc and washington), and a top 10 notre dame squad. they may have only won one of those six cfp titles, but calling them a one hit wonder gives a false impression.

coasting into the playoffs, what? the Buckeyes were robbed of the opportunity to get into the cfp in 2015, 2017 and 2018. and at worst, the big 10 is the second best conference. playing at penn st, xichigan, msu (when dantonio had it rolling), wisconsin, and iowa is no picnic. there's nothing even remotely close to that in the acc. making it through the big 10 is a war of attrition, and the fact that Ohio State has won 4 conference titles in the cfp era, speaks to how consistently great they are. in comparison to the big 10, outside of clemson, the acc might as well be the mac.

it wasn't the big 10 making that call. the university was going to allow 20% capacity, but the Ohio department of health nixed that for all sports, including the browns and bengals. the governor hasn't overruled them, and unfortunately, it sounds like he won't. some big 10 states are allowing fans, as of right now anyway.

LH61, so that's where they went. wolverines are all but extinct up here. the hunting grounds are getting pretty lean. and for the record, there are a lot of us up here fighting the good fight to keep the great state of Ohio red. a blue Ohio would be sad in more ways than one.

one hit wonder? not so much. Ohio State has been the most consistently good team in college football. there are no extended down periods or mike duboses, franchiones, or shula's at Ohio State. Urban won a national championship, Tressel won a championship, and played for two others. john cooper finished the season ranked #2 twice. Earle Bruce came within 1 point of winning a national championship, Woody won 5 national championships, and before him Paul Brown (founder of the cincinnati bengals and cleveland browns) won a national championship for the Buckeyes. Ohio State is anything but a one hit wonder. if you're referring specifically to the cfp, well, they were denied an opportunity to compete in 2015, 2017 and 2018. no way to know for sure how many cfp national championships they'd have if it were an 8 team playoff, but i think they'd have at least one more - 2015.

ZING! there are still players on this year's team, who were on that 2018 team. they haven't forgotten. i suspect these Buckeyes are going to want to bring some pain to west lafayette.

playing that school up north in october and iowa on the final week of the season is surreal. at this point, i'll take whatever college football i can get, but playing the skunk weasels in october doesn't feel right. i understand why they did it, but it's going to feel weird. especially with no fans in the stands.

outside of indiana and purdue, there are no permanent cross over games in the big 10.

Yeah, the ncaa bamboozled Gene Smith. The indications were that Ohio State would not be receiving a post season ban. Because of that, they accepted a throw away bid to a low level bowl, with a lame duck coach, following one of the worst seasons in Buckeye history. Had they known they'd be getting a post season ban, they'd have sat out 2011. Had they done that, they would've faced Notre Dame in the 2012 national championship game, and beaten them.

Undefeated Ohio State would've beaten them too.

Yeah, it's only Boston College, but to be fair, they are a power 5. Much better than playing a MAC school. And, the Buckeyes play them the same seasons as Texas and Bama. The rest of them are marquee programs.

Ha! Grand Funk, nice!

I haven't been to an SEC stadium. The closest I've been is the 1994 Citrus Bowl (Ohio State vs Bama). You're right, the sh!thouse is not very loud. I went to the 2011 Ohio State - xichigan game, the only game they've won in the series in the last 19 years, and you'd have thought it was a September game against a MAC school. Not loud at all. I went to the Ohio State - Nebraska game last season. It was a blowout by the 4th quarter, but the Husker were still louder than the wolverine fans were at any point in that 2011 game. The 'Shoe and happy valley are much louder. I haven't been to Camp Randall yet, but I will be in 2023 - Ohio State's next trip there. I'm told that's very loud.