Only what's relevant. Grew up halfway between Starkville and Oxford. Spent A LOT of time in both, lived in both. Taken classes at both (far more at State). Been to a lot of games at both (never as a student at Ole Miss). Live in OK right now, can't get to too many games. Slight difference in football culture, it's big here but nothing on MS/AL level (you can't tell them that but take them to three SEC venues and back to OU or OSU hitting highschool games along the way then they might see). I am currently a worker at a sow unit, so I'm not rolling in the dough or using a degree, although I do use a little information garnered at State, how bout that. I generally root for Ole Miss when they don't play State. I am part of the friendly rivalry, not that ignorant crap that resembles UA vs AU. I love it when they beat Bama, too, which has to serve as Mullen hasn't done it yet. I root for our JUCO teams here as well, hoping to see yet another national title come back to MS (probably be another Ole Miss qb, too). Delta State is the primary smaller program I keep up with, but I love it when any of them do well. Such schools gave us Walter Peyton and Jerry Rice and USM hadn't really grown into big boy pants when Brett Favre lit them up. So, yeah, that's the last thing. I carry a crosstie on my shoulder when people who think they know what they are talking about act like MS football is nothing. But it's pretty easy when the best from your state are also the best in the game, hey, give me something hard, like was there an NFL player on my tiny team? Guess, just guess.
I just hope our line blocks for him.
Tuscaloosa is only on this list at all from the sheer number of fans, Oxford's tailgating and on campus game day atmosphere is a unique experience and crushes Tuscaloosa. No offense Bama fans, but I think most of you will agree. You get better football at Tuscaloosa, though. I really want to go to a game in Athens, though.
First mazzone, now this guy. Sumlin apparently is just trying to get fired.
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I don't think we want him, but he was pretty good two years ago.
Besides, these guys can't even compare the numbers that well. Clowney on here, but not evans, no Billy Jackson, and we could go on and on.
Allen was something to watch but if you look at his numbers in a vacuum, which these guys just look up stats anyway, the production isn 't the same. Even with faster paced offenses, though, rotation is a different thing and affects a lot of those numbers. When you look at the accomplishments of other defensive lineman with his ability, I can see him beeing left off, though I think either he or Barnett should have been in new york.
Tyler was more of a pocket quarterback with a strong arm. Mobility is a must in his offense, as every other play is an option, and the older the qb gets the more he calls it himself.
Little Billy Jackson, whose not even on here, is the only end even close. There are some linebackers, Willis and Cooks to name a couple, I would put close. And Reggie White was one man wall for ballcarriers of any kind.
Definitely, much more so than Madkin. If he hadn't messed that shoulder up, who knows?
I would take Derrick Thomas as a freshmen over Clowney, but that last statement is debatable. Willis is probably the best defender I ever saw in person.
SEC players are historically snubbed. People forget that, too. A media booby prize awarded by guys who hail mostly from schools not in the SEC. It used to be a Big10/ND award, then OU and the PAC got some love. Remember David Palmer, Peyton Manning, Archie Manning (Theisman who was second would have made more since than Plunkett), or even players from other schools who got snubbed, like Steve McNair, walter Payton, Jerry Rice, and the list goes on and on. Defensive players from across the country get snubbed on a regular basis, until an SEC player is up for it then history gets made and someone gets jipped. I'm not saying Dak should have won, but he should have been in New York in 2014, and in the conversation the following year. Archie Griffin was no doubt a Heisman running back, but there is a reason the only player to repeat is from OSU. Tebow, Manziel, both should have two (Winston was a more than stellar Freshman, but Manziel did better on worse team, not to mention a rapist makes Manziel look like a choirboy.) Though, Tebow got screwed not by the voters but by that archaic voting system. At least McCoy and Bradford were phenomenal. Everybody screams that the media has a bias for the SEC, they aren't old to remember that it took an partially automated system to give us a chance, even then the pollsters still want USC and OSU and anybody but some southern school. And yeah you can look at one instance, like 2008 or 1994, and say, "But Salaam or Bradford or whoever was a phenomenal talent." and you would be right. But when the guy from the media darling, the bigger school, or the title contender gets the nod every single time, something is off. Mcfadden didn't win for one simple reason, he went to Arkansas.
What are you a soccer fan?
It was Sparky Woods offense that doomed Madkin. Who runs a spread with a wishbone line? Completely wasted Walker and Miller, they should have gone to Alabama and maybe had a career. And no, Madkin is in no way underrated. I was a freshman in 98 and was at the Georgia Dome. Madkin was not the reason we were there, JJ Johnson and Joe Lee Dunn had more to do with, and a scary offensive line who weren't the best at pass protection. Barrin Simpson anchored a 5-1-5 defense in 99 whose ppg were destroyed by an anemic and turnover prone offense (under Woods first season in Starkville). Orchestrated chaos that resulted in almost as many batted passes as completions and sealed up the running lanes from Dunn's earlier stacked nickel. We were bailed out numerous times by Matt Wyatt in the fourth quarter that year, and he is another reason we won TEN games, not 9, in 1999, though you might simply be excluding the bowl. Madkin would no doubt have had a better career under better circumstance, so would have a bunch of players, but he was what he was.
I notice they only went with power 5 schools, except for the dead guys. Not including Marshall Faulk and Walter Payton just because of where they went to school is just stupid. Besides, Payton probably played with more NFL players in college at JSU than half the FBS teams field. And Faulk, yes at SDSU, but at a different time, posted a stellar career including what most fans and experts agree is the single greatest freshman season of all time. I agree with the first three, for sure though.
No offense to vols fans, but I just don't buy it. Dobbs is behind Prescott's development by more than a bit and is different physically. Add to that, dak's stellar start was born I perfect storm, best line in the league, numerous target, several other rookies outperforming expectations namely Elliot, good play from the defense though a dominant pass rusher is lacking, and lest we forget QB1 going down in the preseason. Even if all this could happen, Dobbs won't be ready. He's got potential, but I don't see him making that kind of debut, especially since he could be rookie of the year without breaking records, a number of which are now held by Dak. I do think he will be one to watch.
Yeah, yall did go from scaring DL to scaring fans last year.
I was just remarking how I wish we could draw aTm only in Nov, say between bama and OM and move Arkansas a little further.
You got in one, really, the first one.
We got dibs on that.