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And I’m not being intentionally argumentative with you, Boondock. So please don’t take it that way. I’m just mad that they won’t publish my comment. Roll Tide.
Boondock, for me, it was all about the Bama bias. Honestly, I cannot figure out how they let your comment through but censored mine — because mine literally did not bring up race at all, if that’s what they care about. I don’t look at the world that way, so it didn’t even occur to me that Mac was white and Justin Fields was black — and I’m not virtue signaling by saying that. I literally don’t care what color the players are — which is why it galls me that they won’t publish what I said. And I WILL NOT start looking at the world that way, no matter how much the media wants me to. Are you a person of character, with toughness, pluck and grit? Do you play football in Crimson and White? Then I’m rooting for you, red, yellow, black or white. Are you a kid wearing any uniform trying to better yourself and achieve something great, then I’m for you, too and hope you succeed. Race doesn’t enter it for me. On draft night, you could just tell that the commentators were over the moon that Mac fell in the draft — or whatever. I took it as evidence that they despise Alabama, not that they were against him because of his race. In my mind, Mac ended up with the best chance to succeed. I bought his jersey like I always wanted to. And I’m happy for him. By the way, my call name here is based on my teams colors — and the fact that I’m a blonde. I knew if I said I was a woman AND a blonde, nobody would ever read what I wrote. Plus, all those trophies are gold, so.... Anyway! Censorship is not cool. Every idea should be considered with civility. That’s all.
It kinda bothers me that they are “moderating” my post. I can’t figure out why they are doing so — or why it bothers me so bad. I have always, always been respectful on this forum — except that time I told Negan in no uncertain terms I would NEVER move to Georgia. All I eluded to was that the night of the draft, I picked up on a bias from some of the commenters toward Mac because he was from Alabama...I don’t understand why that got my comment put in “jail.” I may abandon this platform.
It looks my comment is in SDS moderation jail. And I can’t figure out why! Oh well, I guess I’ll just say I’m proud of Mac!
Sounds like a talented player who swallowed the rat poison and made a mistake. Sad. Hope he gets back on track somehow.
I mean no disrespect to anyone who has suffered from the VIRUS, because I know people who were at high risk and didn’t have good outcomes, but it has revealed that we are currently living in a culture that no longer values courage. Even if they felt afraid, folks used to saddle up anyway. Not now. And if you are willing to thoughtfully consider the risks to yourself and saddle up and live your life, you deserve to be CANCELED, or at the very least, placed on THE LIST like Khanomil said below. God help us all.
It kinda hurt my feelings, but I think Mac is better off!
Diesel, I don’t know if it’s possible for a productive dialogue to be undertaken by the two of us — but I’ll try. Because I believe the highest insult possible is just to ignore someone, and I am truly not trying to be insulting to you or any proponent of expanding the Playoffs. You said my argument is dead because expanded playoffs will mean more opportunities for more college athletes — but unless we simultaneously do something to make the conferences and divisions more equal in terms of difficulty of play, I don’t think an expanded CFP will achieve the goals you’re looking for. I just think the big football schools will continue to win, barring upsets and luck wins, and you can’t legitimately be suggesting that winners should be chosen via luck/upset, can you? THAT is what I was referring to when I said we should always model for our kids that merit and hard work produce desired results. What I am saying, to make it clear, is that we should not be teaching kids to rely on luck alone for their success in life. That’s the only point I am making. The playoffs will be expanded and college athletes will be paid. It’s coming. But I don’t know if those things will produce more winners. Maybe they will. Time will tell.
JTF, just to clarify, I never said kids at Bama work harder than kids anywhere else. You’re 100 percent right, I didn’t say what I meant clearly enough. Here is what I mean: Alabama has, as a college community, invested in our football program for more than a century. No expansion of the playoffs will negate that investment. Other schools have not taken, or have not had the opportunity to make that investment. That is sad. But it is reality. My comment about kids learning that work = results was not about their individual work ethic or efforts, but about the community’s dedication to excellence in football. But I can see how you and Diesel read my comments. I agree, arguing on this format is useless. I don’t drink beer, but I’d be happy to discuss it over a Coke while you enjoyed one. Wish you the best and thanks for engaging in this dialogue.
Diesel, you’ve got me totally wrong. I do still think Alabama would be in the Playoff picture, for as sling as the Alabama community continues to invest in our program. Your comment about not caring about the student-athletes is disheartening.
This comment is everything. Your point about Miami and Clemson is absolutely the best.
Responding to you here because this comment structure won’t let me respond to your comment below. First, I don’t know if expansion is or is not what’s best for the kids, but I am advocating that they be considered FIRST by everyone having this discussion — especially before fans’ preferences or TV ratings or money being made. You know what the love of money is, right? I do know this: what is best for the any kid of any age is to have the truth and reality modeled for them at every turn. And, for me, that has to start with the reality that if you work hard and invest all you can and see challenges as opportunities and commit to a Process of Excellence, you will get good results. Unless the deck is stacked against you by well-meaning folks who want parity so badly they gut every semblance of work = results. That’s not what athleticism is, that’s not how anything in nature works. I’m a big-time gardener. If I plant green beans, green bean plants grow. It’s a lot of work to tend the vines, pick the beans, string the beans, wash the beans, can the beans — but if I do all that work, my two bean rows produce enough beans to last me all winter. That’s a fact of nature. It’s reality. And it’s also a metaphor. On the luck thing — luck is a part of life too. But fans that want their teams to win based on luck, instead of on the community-wide investment in their program and MERIT, well, let’s just say I don’t understand and cannot accept that mentality. But, I digress: as long as expansion proponents start from making the kids’ COLLEGE (as opposed to professional) experience better, I’ll listen to and authentically consider their arguments. I will not consider arguments based on improved ratings. College kids are not professional athletes. They are not playing primarily for our entertainment. If they do become professional athletes in the future, the CFB will cease to exist — and that will break my heart.
You nailed it and called it for what it is, Dave. All I'm asking is for the proponents of expansion to be honest and deal with reality. Of course, that seems to be too much to ask these days. Here is the reality: TRUE fairness is getting an appropriate level of return that corresponds to your level of investment. You invest a lot, you get a lot. You invest a little, you get a little. No luck needed.
That's my point. RATINGS are driving this discussion, when the only thing that should be is what is BEST FOR THE KIDS!!! If anybody is coming at this from a place that considers the athletes first, not the fans' preferences, then I'll listen to their arguments. Fans have the NFL for their VIEWING PLEASURE -- College Football should remain all about the students' college experience -- and giving them the best experience possible.
I don’t want to see Paul go anywhere else. That would break my heart. I hope he emerges as one of the best QBs Bama has ever seen!!
I shudder at the thought. You need to do more than luck out in one game to be automatically in. Period. Also — what can they do to make the conferences or even the divisions in the conferences more equal, in terms of levels of difficulty in actually getting to the championship games? I mean, let’s be serious, right now, winning the SEC West cannot be compared to winning the SEC East, much less be compared to winning whatever divisions the ACC has. Nothing they do can truly level the playing field. Nothing. You can’t make schools invest in their football programs to the level of other schools. It’s not possible. You can’t make a basketball-focused school — with a century of tradition in that vein — in the ACC equal to a football-focused school in the SEC. And why would you want to? Every school is important, every school fills a need for its students. But not every school can be a National Championship winning school. And that’s okay.
Dave, I can’t get anybody to explain to me what positive outcomes for college athletes they are trying to accomplish by expanding the CFP. I’m waiting, waiting, waiting for a concrete answer. I have seen quasi-answers about the benefits for the fans watching via television, for large media companies and even for the universities themselves but what tangible outcomes will expansion produce for the student-athletes?!? And will playoff expansion be the best mechanism for accomplishing said goals?
That would be totally “fair” and makes an excellent point. College Football — and all it means, and the SEC — and how it just means more — would be totally gutted. But, hey, it would be so “FAIR”!!!
Oh, yes. 2017. You can't blame Saban for putting in a dynamic QB he knew he had in his back pocket. Someone defensive-genius Smart didn't have much tape on. I called my Daddy at half-time. He was despondent. He said: Saban's got to put Tua in. I said, Daddy, he won't do it. It's unheard of. He said: he's got to. My precious Daddy knew, knew that Tua could do it. And Saban did too. And by the end of the game, the whole world did too. 2/26 gets all the attention -- but it was the TD before that to Calvin Ridley that really put us back in the game. I'll never forget it. It was a great coach doing what another great coach said years before: I did what I had to win the game. That other great coach was, of course, The Bear. I truly felt sorry for all the GA fans, but I did not and I do not and I never will feel sorry for Kirby Smart.
Negan, I think you're great. But I wouldn't live in Georgia if hell froze over. Sorry! I don't ever even intend to visit there again, except for Alabama games played in Atlanta. And even that will test my patience because who in the right mind would ever choose to drive in Atlanta???? As for Kirby Smart, I make a playlist every year for each Alabama season, one song per game, win or lose. My song for this year's UA/UG game: "Conquistador" by Procol Harum. Want to guess who the Conquistador is in my playlist?? I used to respect Smart (obviously). Whatever happened with our recruiting "board" when he left -- I truly believe it was, indeed, underhanded -- and if he revealed our evaluations of recruits, he also revealed his character. There. I said it. Saban will eventually lose to one of his assistants, probably. Maybe not. But if it happens, I pray to God it's not to Smart because I don't believe he deserves that honor. That said, I mean no offense to any GA fans on here, not even you, as I usually agree with most of you about the overall big picture of this sport we love -- but I have no toleration for any of this Kirby is the real architect of Alabama's success BS. First, my post was about the importance of making sure college football remains, at least in part, about a college experience for young people -- and less about ratings, salaries, etc. MY POST HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GEORGIA. Second, if you believe that Kirby Smart made UA what it is, you are delusional. Our history of excellence goes back more than a century, way before Smart was even thought of. ROLL TIDE.
I love, love, love the last line of your comment: Good intentions don't always lead to better outcomes. So true!
This is what CFB is all about. Like every facet of COLLEGE, it’s about young people being prepared for achieving their goals.
This is a contentious post but just offering another perspective: arrogance and love for excellence are not the same thing.
Hmm...I thought the prevailing mindset was that Bama is BAD for ratings (and that ratings are the most important thing about college football.) Go figure!