Please understand Kelly....I'm in no way bashing the hire. Mizzou has the personnel to run a pro set offense well (which is the general expectation of Dooley's philosophy), and there are a lot less risks recruiting QBs for pro set offenses instead of spread variation RPOs dual QBs.I don't dispute issues during his tenure at Tenn, but also don't allow that to cloud the fact that he has had success at multiple other teams across both the NCAA and NFL levels.I didn't know about him declining an extension. It makes sense then with him wanting to get back to coaching in the NCAA that he'd position himself (wheeling and dealing) for the OC job at Mizzou, as per my first paragraph, the personnel allow him to avoid "dumbing" down his schemes and instead install his pro set offense.Honestly though? Worst case..he fails and none of the haters are shocked. Best case....he excels, and Odom looks like a genius.
He is a good looking QB and definitely one who'll fit into Gus' offense preferences.I won't lie...I'm jelly
I agree in part, in that people need to be patient and see how he does. Granted, his tenure at Tenn was a train wreck...but it's also possible he simply wasn't ready to run such a large program with a finicky fan base yet. But people who are football morons don't work consistently in the NFL, so even being fired...he still has the credentials to land and maintain a NFL position.I disagree about his season being a Dak problem though. It seemed more a combination of injury issues with their offensive line and missing something Elliot does well but doesn't get a lot of credit for....blocks. For all of Elliot's RB skills, his ability to block and pick up the blitz is where he shines in my opinion.Of course...it still lends credence to your point about fall guys, and neither the O Line or RBs were under Dooley's umbrella.LOL....and for what it's worth....I don't consider Mizzou in any way to be an "embarrassment to the conference". I think Gary Pinkel's departure due to his diagnosis, when viewed in retrospect, was a hard blow to recruiting as well as management and delegation from the HC position. And while I don't necessarily look at Odom as a lost cause...I would imagine Mizzou fans are at the point of, "Initiation is over. Time to join the club" with him and expectations.
I'm glad he's staying, but I never really was worried he would declare for the draft. All analysts and web sites agreed at best he'd go in the 5th round, and worst in the 7th round. I could have seen him going early due to some kind of financial hardship within his family, but outside of that? Naw.Regardless, VERY happy Montez is sticking with the Maroon and White for another season.
South Carolina takes advantage of Michigan meltdown to win Outback Bowl, ends Big Ten’s undefeated bowl season
Great game to watch.Way to go SC!
I'm confused.Knox's Twitter comment ("I've not received any offer from Florida") aside, all I've seen and heard is that he was going to Florida to join Mullen. There was even rumored friction regarding Knox and recruiting, which lead to him being completely taken off the recruiting trail before Moorhead's hire.
We had something similar at Miss State not so long ago didn't we? Seems I remember a highly recruited QB that we got solely because it was agreed he'd be able to play both football and baseball. But went MLB before he ever saw his first snap.
You forgot to mention Florida State yanking Cam Akers out of Clinton, MS...
lol...DvHill, you ever hear the line, "Know why kids are obviously more stupid than we were at their age? Because we didn't have the internet to document all the stupid stuff we did like they do now."
C'mon now.....Hip Hop Legend? Really? That's like calling Rick Astley a metal god.
I'm not a Florida fan (even though they are one of two East teams I cheer for/follow because I loved the old Spurrier Fun 'n Gun offense), but I think Hargraves is a good hire for Mizzou.
This is a good hire for Mizzou. His resume and reputation definitely reflects positive things for Mizzou, but personally I think it's the recruiting doors he can open that will be the bigger dividend, which is where I felt Mizzou was having some issue. That's not an insult by any means, just saying being one of the newest teams to the SEC as well as being the school farthest NW made recruiting for the Tigers a bit more difficult than others.
We're the same way at Miss State over Shoop, Ben. It's kind of hard to use Tenn as a measuring stick for defensive coaches as Tenn's abysmal offense kept them both on the field the majority of the time and always playing from behind.One thing Mullen showed us at Miss State was he builds pretty competent staffs, as proven by how we lost position coaches and coordinators every year to other schools. That's not saying every hire is going to be a homerun, but the odds are definitely better than average.
Well, Murphy (listed as Ath) is technically a RB but will most likely play slot in Moorhead's offense. Not to mention 2018's roster of current players will have 5 RB (1 Sophomore, 2 Juniors, and 2 Seniors), with that Sophomore being Kylin Hill. And Ealy wouldn't even have a chance to be a back up to Hill until Nick Gibson graduated, which isn't until 2020.So yeah.....loaded.
Can't say that I blame him as Miss State is loaded at RB, both on roster and incoming players (provided current commits remain committed).
I think this was one of the best coordinator hires in the nation. And I think he'll show just how good Starkel can be.
Bunker, wouldn't you think they'd redshirt him?I could honestly see that being part of the pull in that they say they'll redshirt him to give him time to learn the offense, as well as the bowl bans being lifted when he comes out eligible.
That is a solid point regardless of one's stance on our QBs, Storm.Considering Moorhead's offense does utilize the RB position more than Mullen's offense, I would hope so. More so since we have a LOT of talent at the RB position. Williams runs like a pro RB in that he is patient and takes what his OL gives him. Hill seems to be one of those RBs who takes a 2 yard window and makes it into an 8 yard seam.
Bob......what???Have you ever held a salaried position? You are considered "on the clock" 24/7 as well as being held to a higher standard (speaking to things like morality and conduct clauses). More so when that position entails issued communication equipment like laptop computers and cell phones, because that reinforces the idea that you are always considered to be at work and in your office. Contacting an escort service via company property alone is grounds for dismissal with cause, so adding conduct clauses and expectations for someone in a management role like you see with an NCAA coach means that people are simply repeating codified facts that are part of contractual agreements which have been knowingly violated.
This is an elite commit for Tenn. We have two for Miss State's 2018 that I'm hoping Mullen doesn't yank from us. Wish they'd affirm their stance like Taylor did for Tenn.Grats on a beast of a WR
Oh...I'm hip, Zou. I wouldn't want him hired to coach my son's PeeWee team. I'm just saying that for all the baggage and damage he has, it doesn't affect his offensive scheme. That's all.Besides that, I FULLY agree with you.
You're bringing up points that have nothing to do with what I said. He is one of the top echelon spread option coaches. I'm not trying to pimp him, nor suggest anyone hire him. I'm simply saying to say his offense isn't good is, quite frankly, incorrect.
LOL.....that crap made me laugh. Thank you.
Am I the only one who hopes he builds on his Egg Bowl performance (the only silver lining I took away from Ole Miss treating us like unwanted step kids on tv was how well Thompson performed. That's a hell of a game under some hellatious circumstances to throw a true freshman off into) and it leads into him getting the starter reps spring spring an d on into 2018?He's faster than Fitz and already has better mechanics passing the ball than Fitz. Now if we can hit the trifecta and he just come close to sharing Dak's studious work ethic.....
Zoucat,I am a lonnnggg time Miss State fan. I hate Ole Miss with a purple passion words can't even come close to expressing. By no means am I "consumed with hate", but I sincerely hate them.I say that so you can appreciate what I say next.For all the things I can say to speak ill of Hugh Freeze, one thing I can't say is that he isn't definitely one of the elites in the world of the spread option offense. Remember, if his face was on fire I wouldn't put it out with a wet chain. But it's a hard stretch to say it's hard to understand why people consider him among the top tier of talent when it comes to running that offense is simply fooling oneself.
I haven't been keeping up, but has/is Luke making any changes to the offense? If the OC stays and isn't lured away (seems I read South Carolina was interested in him as an OC), then Ta’amu and Ole Miss should be fine next year offensively. Granted, it's the year(s) after that where we'll see the turmoil really start to rear it's head roster wise at Ole Miss.
Why am I thinking he was a CB? Am I just having an aneurysm or what?
BamaTime,LOL....I'm not going to smack talk.That is one camp's view to be sure. The other is he had solid defenses at Penn State and (relatively speaking) Vandy, and that taken with the atrocious offensive support his defense got at Tenn shows possible silver lining. Is that true? We'll find out next year.I'm curious to see his scheme, as he is predominantly known to run a blitz heavy cover 6 zone out of the 4-3, but is supposedly on record as stating he'll stick with the 3-4 at Miss State. If we can get some decent play from our secondary in 2018 (which was banged up and second stringers pretty much all of this past season) and we see more growth from our front seven though? There is a possibility it could go well.Of course....that depends on our QB play and if we can make defenses fear anything past 3 yards downfield. I'm not a huge fan of Fitzgerald as his inaccuracy downfield turns us into a high school Triple Option running team.
Not to mention that since Moorhead's offense doesn't utilize as much situational personnel packages as many other coaches do, going to a RB heavy program headed by Moorhead means less RB recruits.