StateDog78

I suppose it depends a little on how old you are as to what you think based on what you grew up with. I read from some B10 fans that go back as far as PSU when they think they lost their identity. Add in NE, MD and NJ and of course LA now. Funny the ACC seems to get a bit of a pass on the "culture" thing but like the crazy now coast to coast B10, the ACC simply goes border to "border" and not sure what the NE has in common culturally with the mid Atlantic/south (and we won't even get into Miami). Hard to say what the predominate "region" is there other than they are on the east coast.

Lot of "history" there across many fronts as I suspect you well know. For the record, some of us still love you. If for no other reason there is someone else besides us to take the State and Starkville suck type grief. You and Vandy also serve as our buffer from the top of the who should be thrown out of the SEC list. (also offered in good humor). Actually graduated from State and moved to STL for my first job. Spent 5 years there and was introduced to pork steaks and Busch beer! Fun times but certainly not "the south".

Guess I didn't read it as who is good or bad but more "southeast'ish". Reasonable (and arguably obvious) list from that perspective. Order the "deep south" in any order you want or have them all in tier 1 LA, MS, AL, GA, SC Tier 2 TN, AR as beginning of the cross over into other regions. Lived in FL and once past the panhandle starts to become a different world as you go south and same for my time in KY as you go north. TX (as self proclaimed) is its own thing/world. Vandy is well, Vandy. MO is simply pretty far removed from the deep south.

Indeed. Get a PxP guy that has done CBB all year, you have to keep KP (best there is IMO) and then you are down to Burke or Ben. I'd go with Ben for all the reasons in the article.

I share the feeling from up I55. A little OT but curious if there are any SEC BB fans who don't like Kyle Peterson calling their games? Given the divisive opinions on nearly every announcer/PXP is there anyone that doesn't like KP?

Learned 3 things today 1- there is college fishing 2- it has a history 3- Auburn is storied in said history

Fully agree with this take and I suspect a few more will emerge next year across the SEC.

Fully agree, good for her and that's about the end of it. But ... pretty sure we are now on to the "significance" of it all and endless platitudes of the so called milestone for the next week or more. Nice little fun story that has been beaten into the ground and now it's really going to get beaten in the ground. That's the issue for me. Again, good for her.

I can never understand this line of thinking that is made endlessly by a bunch of the "media". I root for a specific team and hope for the best. Thrilled when we have a good year, disappointed when we don't. I watch CFB in general for entertainment and think it is the best sport going. So what if only 10 to 15 teams can make the CFP and win (just like it has always been). I don't watch CFB for "who's in". I watch State play, other SEC teams because we play them and then other random games of interest, most with no CFP "implications". While State (and the other 115-120 like us outside the 10-15 if we are being honest) might have a better "chance" than UCF, Cincinnati, etc. (oh so close in 2014) realistically it ain't happening. Does nothing to the "fandom" for my team and CFB in general. Curious what other fellow 115'ers think.

No need to kid, gets discussed all of the time here. Ridiculous this state has 2 but makes it fun to speculate how good only 1 might be/would have been over the years.

"its confidence was shattered by Mississippi State of all people." Jeez Les, that's not very nice. A period after State would have completed your point.

That was an interesting read and recap of recent history. Well done Neil.

Enjoy these Chris. #5 - Good call on Chip Kelly and surprised State's offense didn't make the cut. Yikes.

It was "savage" though.

That was my thought as well. I guess it depends on your definition of struggle but it's not mine. Dominate might be a little strong too but you close with just the right term, convincing.

Always enjoy these Chris. #8 is a bit of an over reaction 150 years down the road, Oh wait a minute .......

Agree, how quickly people forget.

OK, it makes sense now, forgot we had dem headset rules “Rule 1-4-11-b is very specific and allows only voice communications between the press box and the team area, therefore in (a) the coach could not call into the press box or the sideline for anything related to coaching purposes,”

Agree as well. Thought it was odd the first time hearing it with Norvell.

That's not a very nice thing to say.

LH61, you're forgiven but you're not a Jeopardy purist and snob are you?

Z-O-U. Here we go boys and girls! Still not there yet but real real close now. Good luck all and let's have some fun.

Hey, that's us!

Hey Kevin. As has been said many times in the comments, a well written summary of what have been my thoughts through all of this. Sankey never once said "we are playing!" but consistently said that we are going to keep trying until the "science" (God I hate that word now)says otherwise. Never once heard that emphasized, only "reckless". And Corch, I usually cringe when I see your comments but you nailed it with your ranking. I still enjoy The Athletic but man did it get really bad there for awhile as did XM84. Nueheisel about the only one supporting "trying".

Always think these quick summaries are a fun and interesting read.

Fun read, the TN one jumped out at me as the biggest wow.

For those complaining about the comment section being locked on some articles and preventing "debate and opinion" here is your reason. 2 dudes take over with their slap fest and make the section pointless.

Not to worry. We all have them.

Really enjoy your comments/takes on things. Well thought out and void of snark and certainly any trolling. I might not agree with everything but at least there is a rational versus "the author/talking head has always hated my team". If there were only more like you, thanks.

Encouraging to see the comments here as I thought I was the only one it seemed in the world that thought the whole czar thing was ridiculous. Why do we all need to be the "same"? The messiness of it all is what makes CFB unique and crazy. Seems the assumption is always they would do things I agree with like not letting the B10/P12 cancel. What if the czar was in that PAC12 meeting and decided that everyone would cancel as they did?