tlpierse

So we should go by award winners? If you want to go by blocking that's your best argument. Not to mention several mackey award winners were more receiving TEs.

I feel that Evan Engram is better than Hunter Henry

I agree. There will always be drunk hooligans at sporting events. But like you said, I would venture to say that a majority those that are paying stadium prices for alcohol are possibly in the older demographic and can handle themselves in a public event like this.

You literally just said in another post, "No one can see around every corner. You weren’t in the room when Ole Miss met with Patterson, nor were you around during any other conversations." But you will go ahead assume in this instance Shea is right and everyone else is wrong. You can't have it both ways. My point as its been the entire time is that because no one knows and that at the time of his recruitment no one knew how severe things would get you cant start changing your decisions you made at the time. That simple.

Most of which rested on a suspect testimony from a player at a rival school. Again you cannot answer what "lies" were told to the recruits. What constitutes "plotting". And how a 20 or 21 year old is now the moral arbiter and his reasoning for wanting a waiver is above questioning. Just because you don't like it carries zero weight.

All I'm saying is that Shea's reasoning for wanting a waiver should not be held as gospel compared to everyone else. And what coaches lied to him, what lies were told? Texts saying to get news articles in the hands of recruits defending Ole Miss is hardly "plotting" or misleading.

Again you are taking Shea Patterson at his word. As if he is objective in this scenario with no skin in the game. Of course he saying the staff "plotted" because he wants to play immediately then jump to the NFL. He stated he would be one and done at Michigan. To act as if Shea is innocent and playing victim is just not true. You don't even know what he means by "plotting". He has two years left even if does not get a waiver. Its not like he has one year left. Again hind sight is 20/20. Crying wolf after the fact doesn't make you right.

He’s not being punished. He wants a waiver from the rules. Hugh freeze downplaying the NCAA case isn’t any different than a coach downplaying a jump to the NFL. Plus at the time no one could predict the future and I honestly think Ole Miss thought whatever penalties they were going to receive were not going to be as severe as it ended up being. Hind sight is 20/20. Plus his brother was on the staff, pretty sure his bro would have been the first to advocate for getting him out but he didn’t.

you are conflating two separate things. Just because the broken NCAA found OM guilty means nothing. If you line up OM and SMU next to each other it is not even close. Practically every player at SMU was being paid and everyone knew, even the new incoming coach. Even if you assume OM is guilty of everything it does not come close to SMU. Just saying NCAA found them guilty means nothing. Even after the SMU fallout they said the death penalty was too harsh, but you think OM was deserving of it? The NCAA hands out punishment arbitrarily without precedent. Furthermore, if your argument is that the NCAA found OM guilty and received the subsequent punishment then you should honor the same NCAA that found SMU guilty and their punishment. Meaning if you are basing your opinion on the NCAA knowing whats best then that same NCAA believes that OM was not deserving on the death penalty because it was not as bad as SMU.

Stop trolling. OM is nowhere close to what SMU was doing

Don’t know where the kid comments are coming from but let’s just say for arguments sake I am a kid and you are a grown adult (even tho you message like a full retard). That means as an adult you can’t help yourself to go online and try to best a child online. Do you realize how stupid you make yourself seem. If you are an adult you literally have to try and compete with a kid online and continually get slapped down like a little b1tch. Keep trying tho, really is impressive to see people sponsored by the make a wish foundation have access to the internet

Jesus you are still here. You don’t get enough at home you wanna get screwed even more. You have the IQ of a raisin jarhead. You are clearly on the spectrum. You wanna keep getting owned by an OM fan let’s go

You aren’t wise enough to put together a grammatically correct sentence Cajun.

Your win the maturity award? Are you stroking out over there, you are trying to act all high and mighty but you come over to the ole miss pages and you are getting worked over more than a five dollar hooker. What else you got jarhead?

“Most of here?” What the hell are you talking about jarhead. Bless your heart. You may be an adult but you sound like an infant.

Look who it is another tide pod winner who has the memory of a gold fish, carry on potato. I know you can’t see my point cuz you can’t read

Lol looks like you don’t understand what hyperbole means Cajun, enjoy Coach O, really going to elevate the LSU program . And looks like you won the tide pod challenge. Again you to recap you could not counter my point on the article about misleading recruits. Really is sad.

Speaking in hyperbole again. The article is about misleading recruits, I made my point and you can’t counter all you do is talk about probation. I could give two hoots. I know it’s hard for another band wagoner fan to make a coherent thought.

Lol denial. The jarhead ate paint chips and is licking windows again

Yea cuz the NCAA is a pure form of enforcement and justice when a school violates rules. That punishment is your go to as if that really means anything since the NCAA is so arbitrary. Just shows you have no counter argument

Again a coach can’t predict the future. If the allegations are predicated on a testimony that is suspect the coach honestly believes that then of course the coach is going to say it’s all BS. That’s not lying. Like I said it’s not any different compared to a coach going back on his word on a redshirt or saying he’s not going to the NFL and jumps ship the next season. Everyone acting like this is some egregious thing

Starkville education is an oxymoron

Also you take out lewis’ testimony there wouldn’t be a bowl ban this year which is excessive. Ya’ll need to stop doing the tide pod challenge

Lol since SMU? Man this great. Just so you guys know when you look outside your windows today you will see some trees. Now those trees have spent their entire lives providing you oxygen. You guys are literally wasting the life’s work of the trees with your ignorance. And look the bama fan is on a roll with the copy and paste feature! Oh man SMU....are you retarded cuz you sound retarded

Uh oh bama fan got triggered. I repeated myself twice on the point I was making but you are focused on the sanctions which was not the topic of discussion. I guess you’ll have to reread that, that maybe a stretch for ya. You are only a bama fan cuz you went to Walmart in Tuscaloosa. Cheers brotha

Again the most severe allegations stemmed from the leo lewis testimony. You do realize in a NCAA Hearing that the player making accusation cannot be cross examined or challenged, the whole system is flawed. Again this is about whether or nor recruits were mislead which is very difficult to prove. Congrats you stated what the allegations were, way to figure out how to copy and paste, didn't know bama fans knew how to work a computer

I literally just provided a factual record from the NCAA about HF. The point of this post article is about misleading recruits. I followed the Ole Miss investigation closely and the most serious violations hinged on Leo Lewis' testimony which had gaping holes, him changing his story multiple times and now being sued by Rebel Rags due to his lies. You can look all this up, I'm not pulling it out of thin air. Misleading recruits is not a violation, everyone does this as I have mentioned before like telling a recruit you won't redshirt him then the coach does his freshman year.

NCAA said in its ruling that HF was forthcoming, cooperative and did went beyond what was required to rectify the situation. Again you cant mislead recruits if you don't know what the punishment will be and when the most serious violations stem from a MSU player who lied.

Coming from the MSU fan going on OM pages...Like Leo posting on snapchat the money he received from MSU. Give me a break dude, acting all high and mighty when MSU is guilty of the same mikey mouse BS. Carry on potato

Recruit sleeping on a coach's couch, hunting a boosters land. Oh no!!! All this was based on leo lewis' testimony that is extremely suspect and to think for a coach to want to minimize the potential sanctions especially when leo lewis lied, yea I would too. NFL is not a terrible comparison, if you don't think coaches tell recruits what they want to hear to get them to sign when in reality its all rhetoric you are the ignorant one.