UCF fans surely feel a lot better now about the rest of the state

Gray is listed as LT#2 behind Jackson, for now. Jackson played LT in a number of games his Freshman year. But as Gray does well rotating in, this will let Jackson return to the other side of the line, where he played last year. UCF had the #7 beefiest O-line of the AP Top 25 last year. But even without Gray, the O-line, coming out of camp, is rumored to be UCF's best ever, even better than the punishing, beefy group of 2012-2014. No one remembers Urban Myer's warnings before the 2012 match up where UCF controlled the lines, and Braxton Miller scrambling was the difference (Bortles' late picks didn't help). It's also why Baylor getting the 2013 BCS game as Big XII champions was the worst thing as UCF towered over them in every single position, and never trailed as a result. The problem? ND grad transfer Wimbush is not a good passer, and not having time with even a great O-line can negative their effectiveness. If RS Sophomore Mack cannot recover from his pickup basketball game (broken ankle) fast enough, we may see UCF burn the redshirt of true Freshman Gabriel... this kid that broke Tia's state records. This could be a semi-rebuilding year for UCF, especially if Cincinnati, at home, takes down UCF.

Could try the wave. I mean, when some other teams are dominating a ranked team 35-6 in the 4th quarter, sometimes they break out in a wave. QUOTE: _'As Spectrum Stadium waited for a review on a fourth quarter fumble that would eventually go UCF’s way, the crowd full of Knights fans did something really lame. Something you’re never supposed to do at a sporting event. They broke out the wave. Nobody really knows why the wave stinks, but it’s universally agreed upon that the wave should stop being attempted at large gatherings of people. Yet, without fail, Spectrum Stadium had one going. Kirk Herbstreit, a popular punching bag for the UCF faithful, incredulously said on broadcast “The wave? I haven’t seen that in…10 years?” He sounded amused because here was this annoying fanbase that’s always in his Twitter mentions screaming about the Playoff doing the wave while they dominate a good Cincinnati team. The wave is annoying. UCF fans are annoying. It’s just so fitting isn’t it?'_

Yeah, especially on Homecoming. Oh wait ... that didn't out so well for Alabama on Homecoming 2000, did it? ;)

SDS has been an excellent, supplemental source of news for UCF fans these last few years. But that's a smart move, considering UCF's TV numbers this entire decade, market-wise. ;)

People differ on polls and rankings, so they will continue. I mean, ESPN FPI uses recruiting stars as a major metric, which explains why crappy, sub-0.500 ACC teams are ranked higher than the top G5 teams, even when the ACC isn't exactly a "Power" conference any more, other than Clemson. And should we visit the PAC-12 who's last "National Championship" claim is 2008 Utah -- not even a BCS team at the time (and Utah 2008 via the same metric as UCF's 2017)?

How about 6 of Alabama's 17? Only 11 were consensus, and even fewer were unanimous (not even 2017 was)? BTW, I'll give the Gators credithere, they only claim actual, consensus national championships. But it's kinda hypocritical for SEC fans to get upset with UCF, when there are so many SEC teams that are claiming NCs that have far less merit than UCF's. Also keep in mind that Auburn was *not* UCF's biggest win, not even a NY Bowl game either. In fact, if UCF was in the PAC-12, the PAC-12 would claim a NC via UCF for not only 2017, but also 2013. HINT: If not for 11 points, UCF would be totally undefeated not only in 2018 (8 points), but 2013 as well. I.e., 3 points to the final AP#4 team, while UCF beat 2 other AP Top 10s that year.

#17 covers USF (via USF) ;)

QUOTE: "17. College teams that play in NFL stadiums What makes the college game so great is atmosphere and tradition, which is tough to come by in a half-empty stadium with Tampa Bay Bucs signs everywhere. Sorry USF." UCF Nation thanks SDS for saying it yet one more time

NashvilleGator ... this is not the '90s or '00s anymore. UCF has played 2x as many P5 programs than Boise State on-the-road and in 2-for-1s this century. Right now UCF needs funds. Besides, FSU got the Florida taxpayers to build their stadium. And FSU stopped traveling once they started finishing in the top 10. UCF did the same. Seriously ... UCF did everything you stated, and you're ignoring it. UCF cannot be responsible for gross P5 ignorance. Especially saying if UCF was in the Big XII that it would suck. UCF beat the Big XII Champion the last time UCF played a Big XII team! UCF also has better TV ratings than all but Oklahoma and Texas in the Big XII. Kinda getting old, the level of ignorance.

Why not an 0-0-1 on an Neutral Field then like JAX? Danny White offered it, but Strickland turned it down. Why? You seen UCF's traveling numbers? Strickland did *not* like that deal. No, Strickland wanted the Citrus Sports deal of 2-0-1 where Florida gets all the proceeds from the Orlando game, after the bowl got their share, and UCF paid to play. That's just the reality. Until then, UCF has scheduled 2x as many P5 programs as Boise State this century. People don't want to believe it, but it's true.

So you mean UCF couldn't beat the Big XII Champion then?

‘Elite’ Florida signed 1-1 w/Colorado ‘Lowly’ UCF signed 1-1 w/Stanford PAC-12 Regular Season Conference Records - Past Decade ... 1. Stanford 69-21 (UCF's 1-1) 2. Oregon 66-24 3. USC 59-31 4. Washington 54-36 5. Ariz St 46-44 6. Utah 34-38 7. UCLA 42-48 8. Arizona 40-50 9. Wash St 36-54 10. California 30-60 11. Oregon St 29-61 12. Colorado 17-55 (Florida's 1-1)

'Elite' Florida signed 1-1 w/Colorado 'Lowly' UCF signed 1-1 w/Stanford PAC-12 Regular Season Conference Records - Past Decade ... 1. Stanford 69-21 (UCF's 1-1) 2. Oregon 66-24 3. USC 59-31 4. Washington 54-36 5. Ariz St 46-44 6. Utah 34-38 7. UCLA 42-48 8. Arizona 40-50 9. Wash St 36-54 10. California 30-60 11. Oregon St 29-61 12. Colorado 17-55 (Florida's 1-1)

It's expandable to 65,000. Remember, $0 tax dollars were used to build it, unlike FSU's "Academic Building." Let's face it, UCF Athletics has been a $0 burden on the Florida Taxpayer the last 12+ years, unlike USF, FIU, FAU and even FSU in the past. UCF finally got out from under the for-profit, tax payer subsidized Curtis Sports, one run by Gators. And that's why UCF will never get screwed by then ever again. If anything, UCF hurts them now.

And if UCF was in a P5?

And UCF now has thousand more season ticket holders than FSU, and similar prices too. UCF isn't like USF in pricing. :)

SEC teams aren't even buying half of the 4,000-5,000 teams made available for visitors in Gainesville, as even your local Gainesville paper reported! Excuse factor 10

Art Briles had the same, alleged 'issue' when UCF beat the *higher* *ranked* (than Auburn) Big XII Champion in the 2014 Fiesta Bowl. In fact, UCF never trailed all game and led by up to 17 points at one point.

Also remember that, even with the new media deal (where the AAC is getting 3x as much TV money as all the other G5 conferences ... combined), UCF still makes 3x as much money on home games than broadcasted road games. That's just the fiscal reality UCF's AD has to deal with. Anything less is irresponsible, finance-wise. UCF's bond on its stadium also requires 6 home games a year, which really keeps it from taking 2-for-1s altogether, contractually, beyond the fiscal realities. People literally don't realize that, it's a contractual obligation. But all other ADs do. UCF's program makes over $40M revenue, before TV is even considered. That's more than a number of P5s without their TV contracts -- many not having the TV ratings of UCF -- even before the last few years. People always forget 2010-2014, especially when UCF beat 2x top 10 teams, one ranked higher than Auburn, and only lost to a 3rd (the final AP #4 team). That's why just this decade alone -- let alone the sheer number of alumni boosters in their prime income earning years that will exist in another generation -- UCF is literally saying, "Oh, yeah, we're that 'small school' when half of the P5 cannot even draw like us, or deserve the money they get ... and haven't won jack for decades." Sorry, but truth. Keep making fun of UCF. It's just going to come back and bite people. It's not some small or remote school. It's not the commuter school it was in the 20th century. It's huge ... And travels twice as good twice as far as a lot of SEC teams.

@It Wasn't Me -- Obviously you don't read UCF media. The first thing UCF fans questioned is whether Winbush could outcompete not just Freshman #8, but 2 other incoming QBs ... Including the QB from Hawaii that broke all of Tua's records. You might try reading UCF media instead of assuming Winbush is their automatic QB. UCF fans have been very, very down on Winbush since the transfer was announced. But QB was getting thin at the position, so they took him.

UCF's AD continues to offer 0-0-1 on a neutral field to UF AD, as long as the ticket sales drive revenue, and it's not UF walking away with all the money. But just like Auburn and LSU before it, unless it's the Natty, UCF fans show up in droves, better than most SEC fanbases. That's why UF's AD won't take anything ... And why UF's AD is going to offer what UCF's is going to reject. No one likes to be 'outsold' by UCF, especially not right now, with UCF's TV ratings and 'Hey, why are we getting 1/5th the money we have earned this entire decade in TV ratings and 3 NY bowls?' Just the reality. UF's AD cannot let it happen.

UCF loses $2-3M when it loses a home game. Florida offered UCF 2-0-1, which means 0 home games and a loss of revenue of over $5M. UCF makes $20M from its home games in its $63M budget ($41M revenue, donations + $22M athletic frees). The Citrus Bowl charges UCF to play downtown, and always screws over UCF, by giving UCF's take to its P5 opponent. When UCF gets only $2-3M/year in TV (although that's moving to $10M soon), home games are everything. Unless the neutral site shares, which Florida would not do. So that's why Florida turned down UCF, not vice versa. BTW, did you see USF's deals with Florida and Louisville? No one takes those, not Boise and not SDSU. UCF announced home-home with Louisville right after USF did a 2-for-1 where they pay Louisville, just like Florida. USF gets less than half of what Florida and Louisville pay FCS teams.

Beaten more top 10 teams (3) this decade than the supermajority of P5 programs. Just be happy you pulled out that 3 point win in 2013, so UCF didn't go undefeated that year too - - with 3 wins over top 10 teams.

3 seasons in the Top 10 out of the last 6 You're forgetting 2013, where UCF beat 2 teams in the Top 10 and lost to a 3rd (the final AP#4) by only 3 points. UCF's TV ratings this entire decade have been solid. And UCF has now had 2 recruiting classes that finally best its prior, best, 2-year stretch, 2010-2011. UCF's huge alumni base is only growing, and the AAF is 3-1 in NY bowls the last 6 years. The exposure is there, which is why the new AAC TV deal is 4x bigger than prior. And more than the Big East ever had.

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You seen UCF's TV numbers this entire decade?

UCF engineering not only hosts Florida for a reason, but has been kicking Florida butt for 30+byears in ACM and IEEE events. That's why my UCF engineering degree has been more valuable than one from Florida in everything from aerospace to financial services. Heck, even NASA was pointing this out recently! Gator arrogance, hoping that pry on assumption.

Obviously you haven't looked at UCF's rosters, both football and basketball. And that's recruiting with a G5 tag. Imagine UCF with a P5 tag for recruiting... in Florida.

UCF was on its 3rd string RB, its 4th string RB was a converted WR, and was down half its O-line, plus several defensive starters, for the Peach Bowl last year. UCF has more people out than Auburn. Now yes, LSU had far more people out than UCF (only 3 this year) for the Fiesta Bowl, no argument. But it's only the P5s that get to make excuses, right?