Gators down another pledge as elite receiver Trevonte Rucker decommits: Florida has now lost majority of 2021 class in 24 hours
Too bad they don't have our old AD Alleva. He would have already suspended the coach and all the players from post season play so the school doesn't look foolish.
You're still responding to every one of his posts...? You've been at it for months now. I think you've made your point, yeah?
Well, three really. I always focus on the backs, but can't leave Simmons out.
I see you MSU. =) I was cheering for y'all last night. Your defense was sick last year, these two first round picks were well deserved.
That's exactly what's wrong with the rule. It was created to protect players - and exactly because of that - intention and severity should be part of it. Intention is nearly impossible to diagnose unless it's flagrant. Devin White was trying to stop himself from running into Fitz when contact occurred, so it's hard for me to say the rule accomplished what it set out to do. It gets worse when you look at how inconsistently the rule has been applied over the last few years.
We can't win games if we can't score points. I think our defense did an amazing job slowing down Alabama's high powered offense last year - but 0 points is 0 points.
Again, it doesn't matter if you think someone is guilty of something. We live in a society that you have to prove guilt.
No one is ineligible. Nothing untoward has seen the light of day. Only a transcript that hasn't been corroborated from some yahoo sports writer. I seriously doubt he has access to FBI tapes. This is all been smoke - only amplified by the bungling of PR by Alleva. The only reason anyone thinks Will Wade is guilty is because our AD suspended him. Go read about what happened at Duke. You'll see a lot of similarities - with only the coach paying the price (for rumors and baseless accusations).
He was still bringing in money. The board was happy to let him stay as long as donations weren't going down. But you can only make so many mistakes before the fan base turns on you. Will Wade was the final straw.
Yep, both you and Gator prove that you don't know what's happened in the story. Google is your friend - go look up details. That's exactly all we have. An unsubstantiated rumor run by one (1) yahoo sports writer. Our AD was let go because he tends to overreact to these events - he's gone and Will Wade is back because he was wrongfully made to do the perp walk before any evidence came out. Paris - He tried to meet with the AD. The AD changed the plans the morning of to say the NCAA would be present AND he couldn't have his lawyer present. Only an idiot (or someone from Kansas) would agree to that. Do your research.
Gator - you're wrong. You haven't heard the tapes. No one has. What was released was an unverified transcript that a sports writer published without releasing his source. In addition, nothing of monetary value or benefits were discussed in that transcript. Let's wait until we have evidence before convicting people, hmm? It should be innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.
He's being forced out because he's incompetent, overreacts to situations, has a history of failing upwards, and has zero idea of what PR is supposed to be. I'm still baffled how the got the job after the awful handling of the Duke scandal. I could go on, but Joe "I am the Search" Alleva's time is past due. Good riddance.
What a hypocrite.
Yeah, none of those guys did anything close to what this guy is accused of. Mett didn't even do anything at LSU - AFAIK, he grabbed some girl's butt while at Georgia.
Also, the FBI isn't after Wade here - they're after Dawkins. The way these investigations work is by getting as many people as possible on the record and then they look for inconsistencies. They would subpoena the LSU board of directors in a heart beat if they had a good reason to.
BamaTime - Yes, it does. The FBI would be allowed to subpoena the entire board to find out what he said to them on the matter. Ask any of your buddies that are in law and they'll tell you the same thing.
The whole thing reeks of inconsistency - because our AD acts quickly and irrationally to everything.
Yup! This is much more of a sane response to this whole ordeal. Very well said. Honestly, I think the last move by WW is because he knows the administration has to let him go at this point (they've already made him do the perp walk) - so if he comes out clean he's setting up for damages. Will Wade's lawyers are seeming to be better at their jobs than LSU's general council - esp if there's some crazy situation in which WW is innocent here. It's going to be entertaining if this isn't a bluff.
Darth - that is the definition of heresay. You think the FBI is going to come out and talk about an on going case? Have we heard the wire taps? The answer to both is 'no.' The _transcripts_ of the calls were leaked by the _defendant's_ attorney, who claimed he was going to destroy all of the NCAA if his client went to jail. Someone posts "transcripts" on Yahoo that no one has corroborated - yet everyone here wants to talk about "Evidence." It's laughable. In the same vein, WW's atty told him not to talk because he's part of a FEDERAL investigation - and everyone's saying he's hiding and guilty because he's not talking about it. It's crazy town.
Yup. And from what I'm hearing, that one isn't limited to Basketball - it covers all athletics.
BamaTime - LSU and WW have both taken the correct actions so far. If WW did meet with our AD and the Board, they would all be subpoenaed into the federal investigation as well. WW has actually protected them from that - by following the advice of his lawyer.
Because he's involved (testifying AGAINST) the defendant in a federal case. And NO, I do not think it's odd he doesn't want to talk to the NCAA at this point in time. I don't think anyone paying attention over the last few years would - Look at Ole Miss and Missouri! They both received harsher penalties for cooperating than they would have if they stonewalled.
I'm not contending that you sing his praise. I understand the school needs to suspend him and distance themselves. I'm merely suggesting we wait a little while before we drag his name through the mud. "This is his own fault! He should never coach again! I hear he kicks little dogs and babies!" ... it's ridiculous. Let's let this play out and then all the writers can have their time in the sun if he's guilty.
Les - stick to writing. You're no lawyer. Any reasonable defense lawyer would agree 100% with Wades actions since the first story leaked. The one thing everyone should know from this debacle is that the media is ultimately to blame for ruining people's careers before all the facts come out. Circumstantial evidence is enough to crucify people these days. Can't you vultures wait until he's dead before picking at his body. I'm not saying Wade isn't guilty - but none of us have heard the tapes. You're just going off of something that was printed by another 'journalist' that tends to sensationalize his articles.
The administration had the NCAA on the line ready to listen in. The meeting wasn't a friendly discussion, it was a setup to try to fire WW with cause. Wade said he'd meet with the administration without the NCAA present, and they declined.
Wade said he was advised by his lawyer to not attend provided the NCAA was going to be listening in (which they were). He didn't choose not to go - he said he would go and work with LSU provided the NCAA wasn't present - which they had no reason to be at this point. This is just Joe Alleva scared to death of the NCAA and making rash decisions, like usual.
(Sorry for double post - language got put on hold for moderation) There is not evidence though. The wiretap shows Wade talking about a deal with a recruit that DIDN’T go through. In fact, all of the ‘damming’ things are Will complaining that the offer wasn’t good enough. It’s against the rules to make a deal with a student and give them improper benefits – not to make them an offer. Is it an indicator that this has happened with other recruits? Probably, yeah. Is there evidence that it happened? Absolutely not (yet).
Law_Dawg is 100% correct.