NBA great Scottie Pippen hasn’t been shy about sharing his thoughts on the league past and present, generating lots of chatter in traditional media and social media. One of Pippen’s recent targets was former teammate Barkley.

Barkley came up during Pippen’s recent interview with GQ. Pippen first used Barkley as an example when talking about how truly “great” players are measured by their team’s success.

“You can sit here and argue that Charles Barkley was a great player. But he gets diminished why? Because he never won,” Pippen said. “He never was on a winning team. So when he sit up on that stage with Shaq and Kenny (Smith), they can diminish him at any moment. As great of a player as he is, they can make him the size of a period. Kenny Smith can make himself bigger than Charles Barkley on that stage because why? He won. Yeah, Charles in the Hall of Fame, but when you talk about success in winning, you don’t speak of Charles Barkley’s name. Until you put him on a great team like the Dream Team. That’s where he gets his lift at. Because he was a part of a team, he knows what it’s like to get to the top. Great individuals don’t tend to get there and they lose a little bit, they lack something. If you don’t feel what it’s like to win, then you’re left out.”

The mention of Barkley prompted a follow-up from the GQ interviewer. Pippen didn’t hold back looking back on their falling out from their shared season in Houston.

Interesting you mentioned Charles Barkley, because he once said that he would “get arrested for murder” if you didn’t apologize to him for calling him “fat” after your breakup with the Rockets.

I wish he woulda went through with it. I never apologized to him, but I’ll tell you what: He only got arrested for throwing some little white guys out of a window. I ain’t never seen him fight a Black man unless there were referees around. He plays his role like he’s tough. I don’t know nobody he done whooped. Go back and check his record. Did I apologize to him? I told him to get me the hell out of there. That’s what I recall.

More from Pippen’s interview can be read here.

[H/T 247Sports]