Former Ohio State assistant Zach Smith launched a podcast earlier this year: “Menace 2 Society.”

Smith has touched on a number of topics since the debut, including Urban Meyer and what it’s like to be an assistant a big-time program, among other things.

Smith’s latest podcast discusses big-time college coaches and programs, and it touches on Dan Mullen and Florida. Smith, of course, coached at Florida under Meyer (and with Mullen) from 2005-09.

Co-host: “I’d be interested to hear your thoughts about Dan Mullen at Florida. He has a chance to get to that level. Why hasn’t Florida gotten back to (elite) level?”

Smith: “Yeah, we talked about that at length, and the biggest thing is Dan Mullen is thrust into this conversation only because he is the coach at Florida. He would not be in this conversation based off his successes on the field — based on his resume, but he gets thrust into this group because he got the job at Florida. Why did he get the job at Florida? Because Florida wasn’t an attractive job. It wasn’t. The stadium’s not selling out, where they have really fallen off. The recruiting has been down to some extent, especially from the Urban Meyer era. So, why did he get the job? He got the job because Scott Frost didn’t want the job. Think about that. This is a job that was top five in the country in 2005 when Urban turned down Notre Dame to go to Florida. … He didn’t have the resume to get the Florida job that Urban Meyer got in 2005. Dan Mullen had the resume to get the Florida job in 2018.

“I don’t think he (Mullen) has the swagger to be a great head coach or to be a great recruiting head coach, but he’s a really good football coach.”

While there is some truth to what Smith is saying that Florida isn’t a top five job in 2019, he neglects to mention that one of the main reasons Florida isn’t at that status is because of … Urban Meyer. Meyer left the program quite messy following the 2010 season.

Florida isn’t a top five job like it was in 2005; it’s probably more in the eight to 12 range because of the fallout from the Urban Meyer era and the Will Muschamp and Jim McElwain hires. The Gators’ program could easily return to top five two years from now. It’s all about winning and signing elite talent.