O'Gara: Why hasn't Florida fired Billy Napier yet? That question is worth digging into
Billy Napier is done, and I think he knows it. Nothing is official yet, but after he addressed the media Saturday to discuss another Swamp-clearing blowout loss, the Florida coach admitted something that sounded like a guy who knows his days are numbered.
He was asked about getting booed off the field, which didn’t prompt a defensive response. Instead, Napier said he would’ve been right there with the disgruntled Florida fans.
“I probably would’ve done the same thing, truth be known.” – Billy Napier when asked about being booed off the field after Florida’s loss to Texas A&M.
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As of this writing (Monday early afternoon), Napier said there’s been no discussion of his future. Take that for what it is. What’s he supposed to say? “Oh, I bet my bosses and boosters are meeting and discussing when would be the ideal time to fire me.” That’s not how this works.
I’ll give Napier credit for not offering any sort of spin zone after dropping his 7th consecutive game vs. FBS competition. That’s because he doesn’t have one. All he has is an underperforming team that lacks an identity and a pulse. Well, he also still has a job. Why? Shouldn’t Florida just rip off the Band-aid instead of delaying the inevitable?
That question has layers to it. It’s not just as simple as Napier didn’t accomplish the job he was paid to do, and Florida’s only option is to cut ties with him now. That’s true even if there’s nothing that can be done to save his job. One would think there are discussions about the future of the person who would usually be in charge of determining a coach’s future, AD Scott Stricklin. Sorting through that isn’t easy.
There are pros and cons to firing a head coach in mid-September. Punting on a season that early sends a message to players, though based on the way that things have started at Florida, it’s not like the Gators would be bailing on “inspiring” football. While some have made that move in September, it’s not a given. Nebraska might’ve pulled the plug on Scott Frost after Week 3 in hopes of keeping its historic sellout streak intact (it dates to 1962 but 2020 didn’t count because of COVID). That might sound silly, but optics play a part in a decision like that. Florida’s optics couldn’t have been worse in the opener.
Well, check that. You know what would be worse? What could happen in Florida’s next home game (it travels to Mississippi State and has a bye before that). If UCF waltzes into Gainesville with former Arkansas QB/Swamp defeater KJ Jefferson leading its No. 2 rushing attack in FBS and stomps all over the Gators’ run defense, Napier’s nightmare will become even more horrifying. Replacing those Miami fans with UCF fans is the only way the optics can reach a new low.
It’s costly to have ticket sales plummet, even at an “everything school” like Florida.
(I only put “everything school” in quotes because it felt grammatically correct. I promise that wasn’t sarcasm, and I do genuinely praise Florida for being excellent at a variety of things.)
If Florida starts 2-3, you can bet that stadium will lack juice for those last 3 home games, and understandably so. That’s not what you want recruits or boosters to see, albeit for different reasons. Promoting an interim coach isn’t necessarily a lock to sell tickets or sell a better vibe to recruits, unless Florida has some sort of 2022 Bryan Harsin-to-Cadillac Williams situation that we don’t know about.
A packed Jordan-Hare Stadium celebrating Cadillac’s first win as interim HC
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Speaking of recruiting, what’s worse — recruiting with a staff that’s about to be fired or recruiting with a staff that’s already fired? You could go either way with that. Yeah, you might have more commitments if you’re recruiting with a staff that’s about to be fired, but what happens when the Band-aid gets ripped? You’re still going to take hits. That’s reality for any team that makes a coaching change in this era of loosened transfer portal. Shoot, Florida could fire Napier next March and still get gutted by the 30-day transfer window that would open.
But barring the unthinkable, Napier won’t get to December, much less March. Nobody waits until December to make a move anymore because of the Early Signing Period. It’s fair to wonder what it means for teams to get a head start on that in mid-September as opposed to mid-November. You don’t need that long to vet candidates, none of whom are going to agree to anything in mid-September, unless they’re unemployed.
In the case of Nebraska firing Frost, it worked out for the program that a top target like Matt Rhule was fired by the Panthers on Oct. 10. Perhaps the program did some early vetting into Rhule’s potential interest in the job and pulled the trigger early. Nebraska could’ve waited until October to fire Frost and it would’ve saved $7.5 million (!), but again, the shutout streak is the only common link between Nebraska now and Nebraska during its glory years.
In other words, that was a unique situation. It’s unlikely that Florida would pursue someone who could be unemployed in mid-October.
Unless a certain Urban … nope. That was a joke. Don’t do that to yourselves, Florida fans.
My advice? Let this process play out. Know that holding onto Napier instead of firing him after Week 3 doesn’t mean that the Gators are about to let him play out the entire season.
It’s also hard to say that firing Napier in September or November will have major DJ Lagway implications. Lagway came to Florida because of Napier. Firing Napier in September would mean that the former 5-star recruit would essentially spend the majority of his true freshman season in a different scenario than the one he signed up for. Lagway was billed as the potential savior, but there was always a world in which Napier was going to squander his future at Florida before the true freshman ever got to be the face of the program.
Dare I say, we’re living in this world. Some would call that world a nightmare; others would call it a fantasy. Whatever it is to you, reader of this column, it’s Florida’s new reality.
Napier’s days are numbered. Firing him could come after a win a la Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M. To date, that’s the only paid buyout to a college football coach that’s richer than what Florida would owe Napier (north of $27 million depending on the timing).
Dubious company awaits. It’s not a matter of “if” but “when.”
It’s truly shocking that a coach as inept as Napier was ever hired at a P4 school. If there is any truth to the rumor that Napier was the only interview Stricklin conducted, then the mistake is even more egregious. It’s wild to think that the absolute pinnacle of the disastrously failed Napier era was week one, year one (with a roster full of Mullen recruits). Hands down, this is the worst coach in the history of UF football; it’s also one of the worst hires ever made by any school.
well he was highly respected and sought after when they hired him. he didnt pan out but thats not that unusual. As a Vol Fan I should know a little about that. I dont see any need to fire him right now. Right after the tennessee game sounds good:)
It is all about the optics now. And what happens in Starkville on Saturday plays into the timing of any announcement.
If the Gators lose to MSU this Saturday, the announcement will come swiftly after. It may anyway.
That would change the narrative coming out of another inexplicable loss. It would also give the interim HC a bye week to make significant changes to both his staff and starting lineup ahead of playing UCF in the Swamp two weeks later.
Off point by a couple of degrees, but I just read elsewhere that Lane Kiffin declared his loyalty to Ol’ Miss today. That’s good news to me, but of course in KiffinSpeak it says he’s coming to Florida. :)
Neal, if he stayed loyal after Jimbo and Saban vacated, he should probably be trusted when he proclaims loyalty to Ole Miss now.
Emilio my friend, you just used two words that together comprise an oxymoron: “He” (Kiffin) and “Trusted”.
I did say probably. ;-)
The good news is FSU is not doing so well this year.
It’s interesting that LSU was hiring a coach at the same time but they didn’t seriously consider him even though he was coaching an hour down the road. However, he was highly regarded at the time.
That was one of the red flags Stricklin ignored. The other was the fact that he’d been fired by Swinney as Clemson’s OC and insisted on being his own OC if he was hired by UF.
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Why should they pay attention to what LSU does? Yeah, Coach O got him a nattie with a lightning strike of a season, but other than that one season he was a huge bust, brought discredit to the program, and less than 2 season s after the nattie was fired. There are few if any schools that have hired coaches that everyone thought could do the job, but couldn’t.
8×5, Coach O was hired by a different AD, after the wheels started to come off our current AD made the decision to fire O and hire CBK. I think what engine was referring to is that Napier was never considered for the job, I don’t think Scott Woodward even interviewed him
by comments made by woodward at the onset of the coaching search, it was obvious that he was never looking at napier….or any non-proven or short-tenured hc. woodward had his sights on an experienced hc at the p5 level or potentially even at the nfl level. that’s not an indictment against napier. woodward was simply looking into another pool or tier of candidates.
The plan when they hired Coach O was he would recruit at a high level (which he did) and they would spend money on really good assistants. He went 9-4 his first full year and then 10-3 the next year, followed by one of the best teams of all time in 2019. I really don’t care what happened in 2020 because obviously it was not a normal season. He went 6-7 in 2021 and was fired. So essentially he had one bad year. It’s way too easy to say it was all luck in 2019. He built that team and staff. The plan resulted in a Natty so it worked.
I always liked Coach O – what you saw was what you got, no pretense. In fact, he’s still a legend up in Natchitoches due to his time at NSU. My understanding is that he got divorced during that time frame and more or less went off the rails as far as his personal behavior….which carried over to the team and embarrassed the administration. No doubt in my mind that he’s a solid coach as far as that goes.
I will forget 10 win seasons or 6 win seasons but i wont forget 2019.
Lane Kiffin’s daughter, Landry, enrolled at Ole Miss in the fall of 2023. Surely he wouldn’t hang his daughter out to dry by taking a coaching job at another school.
Well, we know Kiffin, and he might….and don’t call me Shirley.
“Florida game” careful…..That series has been one sided for several decades.
There are 27 million reasons why Florida hasn’t fired Napier ….yet.
There were many more reasons ($) for A&M not to fire Fisher. Everyone said Fisher would not be fired, “too expensive.” I disagreed.
And you can see what happened there.
Napier is gone this year.
There is a big difference between A&M and UF when it comes to available funds. Also they are still are paying at least 2 staffs already I believe, whereas A&M only has to worry about Jimbo.
Plus the cost of buying out assistant’s contracts etc. I wonder what the real cost will be.
Maybe they haven’t decided or secured a contract or MOA with their prospective coaching target. I.e. don’t fire him until you KNOW who you’re gonna hire.
I’m sure that Mark Stoops’ asking price will be coming down as the season goes on.
I tend to agree. You move from one known to another, hopefully removing any uncertainty in the minds of recruits and current players. And hopefully it is a proven winner. No more diamonds in the rough, please
We’ve learned from harsh experience what that looks like going from Fulmer to Kiffin.
I could say a lot, but will shorten it to this: The leadership at the top matters a whole lot more than who the head coach is.
Wait. Florida has leadership at the top? Then why was Napier hired?
If he keeps losing the next few games I don’t see how he wont be fired sooner than later. MSU and UCF, I mean you gotta win those at a minimum
Yup, lose either of those and see ya Billy boi
Something tells me Napier won’t be on the Gator sideline when they play UCF.
The timeline you posted above sounds reasonable except I would say move on to the interim HC win or lose to MSU and then take advantage of the bye week
If UCF’s rushing is legit, they will beat the Gators. I think they have a chance to win against MSU, but the players have to play like they really care.
I mean its a for gone conclusion at this point. I think the main question should be what type of coach is going to be focus of the search. Established coach that has been able to keep a program at a competitive level (James Franklin) or the up and coming coach with the offensive scheme the scores points Jamie Chadwell or Alex Golesh.
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As in, it’s a foregone conclusion that the hillbillies will get all torqued, proclaim a Natty then choke on a big, fat Bama or UGA johnson
tdumb you didnt quite choke on kys johnson but you were starting to gag a lot. Looking forward to playing in athens.
you sure do like to talk about the penis a lot. You should be on grindr not SDS
Funny you come to a Gator article to throw shade at Tenn
I came to this Gator article to read the comments and make my serious, non-insulting contribution, see below.
There’s no love lost between Dawg and Gators but you have to admit the hillbillies are the bottom of the barrel. I’d save a Gator fan from a burning house, I wouldn’t piiss on a UT fan if she was on fire.
Then when one of the particularly disgusting hillbillies like volzdeepincousin tee’s one up like that, how can you not?
There are so many CF fans who are taking pleasure in UF’s state. Not Napier’s. UF’s. Why? Because of their affiliation with one of the true dbags of the sport: Spurrier
Sure if you say so it must be true except that SOS is one of the greats of the sport. There I fixed it for you
He quit on his own team mid-season and will never be viewed as great through my eyes because of it. I actually started to respect him (says a lot from a uga fan that lived through the Goff years) until he did that. One of the worst examples of leadership I’ve ever seen. Maybe he’s who yall hire post Napier
You’re entitled to your opinion but don’t think it matters or makes a difference
The Old Ball Coach was indeed a good one, and his sideline antics as well as his quips/barbs were pure entertainment. I liked his style even though he was a thorn in our side. Fun & Gun years were good ones for the Gators.
I am sure they have a list of people they want. Any of them that are worth having aren’t going to be available in the middle of the season. So you have to go the interim route and unless it is a Spurrier or Kerwin Bell type that probably isn’t the final answer but will at least generate some excitement in the Swamp it probably isn’t worth the trouble.
• Currently the #22 recruiting class
• Gets v1ct1m1zed in the portal every year
UF should be top 3-5 in recruiting and a net gain in the portal each and every season
Napier will never field a competitive team regardless of his coaching
UF is finding itself in a “perfect storm” S*!t show. To set things right for the long term, UF really needs to fire Stricklin as well as Napier.
The problem is, UF has an interim president. Fuchs may go out on a limb far enough to fire Stricklin, but I don’t believe that he would hire a new AD as interim pres.
So if Stricklin is pressured to fire Napier, who is really going to hire the next coach? An unpopular AD who may very well be a dead man walking as well? Another interim, AD? That would set the next AD up with a really precarious situation. The football coach is THE most important hire an an AD list and the new guys would NOT have hired the coach, but would have to accept all the heat that any new coach might bring.
Now if UF can somehow pull Lane away from Ole Miss, all is probably well… If UF has to go out and settle for another unknown or 2nd tier P4 coach we are no better off than we are now.
Good lord, 2026 (at this point 2025 is lost too) can not get here soon enough!!
Go Gators!!
Who the Gators go after now is an open question. However, you can take this to the bank: the next Gator HC will be hired by the same boosters that pay off Napier’s buyout. Stricklin will just rubber stamp their choice.
It’s been done before. The hired coach back then was Steve Spurrier and the AD who rubber stamped his was Jeromy Foley. That’s part of why Spurrier and Foley never got along.
his hire
Foley did not hire Spurrier.
Bill Arnsparger did.
I stand corrected.
Florida is now currently in the state that Tennessee stayed in for 20 years. Boosters were playing as if they were NFL owners and continued to make bad hire after bad hire. It takes a strong administration, and a good athletic director to get out of that cycle. Boosters have to stay on the sidelines for the right decisions to be made.
No Florida boosters I ever heard of forced UF ADs to hire Muschamp, McEwaine, Mullen, or Napier. The fact boosters are getting involved now is because they have no faith in Stricklin’s judgment after the last two strikes.
In an ideal world, UF would replace Stricklin first and task his replacement with replacing Napier. In the real world, we don’t have time to do that.
StL…The parallels of the current UF situation and the UT dark decade and a half are somewhat amazing. Unless UF accepts the unfortunate situation as it is and gets a good AD first I expect the UF will continue beyond the Napier departure. The only thinkable exception being an SOS return for 1-1.5 years to allow time to do things in the proper order.
* that UF will continue
VAVOL1… I hear you and acknowledge the leadership vacuum we have at UF can devolve into a cluster… fast.
Stricklin was brought in as AD to solve the twin problems of inferior facilities and inadequate staff. He solved them, but gave us the bigger problem of incompetent HCs. He’s a salesman and an administrator, but has no clue about leadership.
We’re here now and need to move on from Billy Napier. The bigger problem is, we need to move on from Scott Stricklin first and find ourselves stuck between university presidents. And the guy warming the seat is not a leader either.
Time is not on our side. Hence, the boosters are jumping in because they’re being asked to pay $26 million for Stricklin’s 2nd mistake and want to avoid making a third.
Tricky situation.
Napier is the equivalate of what Derek Dooley was for the Vols. A guy that was supposed to come in and clean up the program and make it respectable with class. If Florida is in the same cycle they probably got another coaching change possibly two before administration gets their act together.
Missouri fired their AD even a couple of years after he fired Drinkwitz. I believe the reason was he wasn’t able to handle NIL. Plus, he really didn’t focus on Drinkwitz. It was the BOT that forced him to interview Drinkwitz and hired him as the next HC.
The answer to the article’s title is simple. It is called buyout money.
“when” will be determined by “WHO”, and also there is a discussion of a 100 person staff that reps alot of jingle. There is no low hanging fruit here…thanks to Mr.Striclin. BUT what an excellent agent BN has for this buyout. I believe Trent Dilfer will be a great canidate for HC, young QBs
go to his off season camp. He knows winning and he knows QBs!
What would be the point of firing him now ? No active coach worth the job is going to be talking to them this early in the season…
Or ever.
Or after that
If Strickland is still the AD, then UF’s problems will only continue IMO. He’s made several bad decisions, and costing the school millions.
Hard to believe that schools are still making these huge contracts with no stipulations on success for payment.
Agreed! I don’t get how you can’t put language into the contract, especially for an unknown like BN coming to a P4 school, that if you aren’t over .500 win percentage after a certain number of games yoi can be fired and not receive any mire money. Sounds like pretty good “CAUSE” for a firing to me.
Very good comments.
Always marvel at how cavalierly Sports Writers call for coaches to get fired.
Jealousy, pure jealousy.
Just give me my $27M and I’m on the golf course this afternoon baby
Have they identified candidates for the HBC? How secure is the job of the Athletic Director? Do they have a solid interim guy on staff that can turn momentum around? Just firing a guy without a plan is probably how they wound up here. Remember, when Saban quit, they had a guy under contract 2 days later. Love Bama or hate them, they had a very solid plan. Hopefully, somebody has been talking to some big time coaches about this job.
There was a recent article by Jesse Simonton on On3 (I’m not sure if one is allowed to post links here) on problems within Florida’s UAA coming from Foley holdovers. He did not imply that these were bad people, but that they mostly had outdated ideas. I think Stricklin gets too much criticism and Foley gets too much praise. It was during Foley’s administration that the facilities decayed to the point of being a laughing stock within the SEC. Sticklin was hired to update the facilities in all sports, and this is exactly what he has done. The campus is completely different now, and football operations/facilities are now at least up to par with the other heavyweight programs. The next coach will have most of what he needs in place already.
Most do not remember that the “Great Jeremy Foley” did not hire Spurrier nor Meyer. Arnsparger hired Spurrier and Bernie Machen hired Meyer. Now with an interim President at UF and a Lame Duck AD, probably the big boosters will have to make the next hire.
Who is Billy’s replacement?
When UF figures that out Billy is gone.
Heard it through the grapevine that…
Jimbo is looking to get back into coaching?
The greatest legal grifter of our time may be falling headfirst into another “awesome” grift, bigger than the one he’s living on now…
perfect timing for both Jimbo and Florida!
Interesting that Connor writes such a long article about why Billy hasn’t been fired yet and he doesn’t mention any of the actual reasons.
The buyout money is reportedly available, but the needed additional money to buttress NIL to counter potential defections is not.
He also says nothing about the for-cause legal review that is almost certainly in full swing right now.
Firing a coach this early in the season is problematic because the next coach can’t leave his current job for three to four months. Especially if the boosters can’t agree on who that candidate should be, or who the interim should be.
There is also a huge risk right now of taking a step back, a la resurrection of Philip Fulmer at Tennessee after their last fiasco. There are two very storied and very influential voices lobbying in the background… and they don’t like each other. (Urban is not one of them.)
Is Urban Meyer an anything at UF, much less an “influential voice”??
I think you misread that last couple sentences.
Maybe, why the Urban reference?
The reference to Urban was that he is NOT involved in the behind the scenes jockeying and lobbying.
Man, is Foley still trying to influence the next hire?
It’s seems that maybe you Nash should be on the staff!
Your dynamic combo writing style of inside sources and magical thinking would get this article right!
Nash, I’ve been hearing rumors about players wanting a new coach, is there any truth in that?
GFA, I don’t know what the players are thinking. I’m only hearing what the big donors are arguing about.
I have noticed this governordummy guy has a hard on for Nash always following him around to disagree with whatever he posts. He doesn\t seem very bright either
I don’t see UF losing the next two games (no team is worse than MSU) , in which case, since Napier is still the HC, there would be no excuse to fire him.
unfortunately, stricklin will be doing the hiring. Fuchs won’t hire a new AD. Fuchs told the trustees he wants to retire by summer 2025 and he has said that he expects the new prez to be chosen by mid-2025
1- there’s a distinct possibility UF may lose one or both of the next games
2- whoever pays Napier’s buyout will be hiring the next coach not Stricklin
Florida may head down the Auburn path by doing this, but yep the boosters that pay off Napier will call the shots on the next HC hire.
this is ogre gara to a tee..
ask an obvious question that everyone knows the answer to, then answers it like he just discovered fire or the wheel..
O’Gara moved south, from the Big Ten north, for a ride to fame on the coattails of Saban and the SEC.
The SEC is a cash cow and O’Gara has figured out how to milk the cow. O’Gara had great foresight and he has enriched his life because of that foresight. Give O’Gara the credit he’s due, his gamble paid off!
Billy Napier set all kinds of losing records in Florida football history
Worse coach the Gators ever had
Billy will be fired after losing to Mississippi State on the way to Gainesville
Scott Stricklan the Architect of this mess should be fired as well
I think he’s just hitting his groove and should be given an extension. Go dawgs!