Film Study: What is Georgia getting in Wake Forest graduate transfer QB Jamie Newman?
When Jake Fromm declared early for the 2020 NFL Draft following his junior season in Athens, he left a big hole at the quarterback position in Georgia’s offense. Considering how inconsistent Georgia’s offense was at times last fall, losing Fromm could have been a devastating blow to the 2020 offense if the Bulldogs had to start from scratch at the position.
Thankfully, that won’t be the case as Wake Forest graduate transfer Jamie Newman is now a Bulldog.
Following Newman’s decision to join Kirby Smart’s program, I went back and watched all the game footage I could find on the Bulldogs’ new signal-caller to find out exactly what Dawg Nation was getting in the Wake Forest transfer.
After studying his career at Wake Forest, here are the strengths of Newman’s game.
Ability to run
The first start of Newman’s Wake Forest career was at NC State in 2018. The Wolfpack were 6-2 and ranked No. 14 nationally. Things started slow for Newman and the Wake Forest offense; they had only 3 points in the first half, but they finished with 24 points and earned a surprising road victory.
Wake Forest’s offense got going with this run by Newman. He isn’t going to pull away from many SEC defensive backs, but he’s quick enough to blow past linebackers and get to the third level of an opposing defense.
Here’s another example of Newman’s ability to punish a defense on the ground.
While Georgia’s new quarterback might not punish opposing defenses with his speed, he is capable of delivering a blow and has shown the ability to fight through tackles.
Here’s yet another example as Newman’s extra effort gets him in the end zone.
Here’s another example of Newman’s ability to bust out for a big gain on the ground.
Ability to push the ball downfield accurately
Georgia has too many good receivers to not push the ball down the field. That’s something that Alabama and LSU corrected with their new offenses and something that the Bulldogs must be able to do if they plan on competing for a national championship next season.
The good news is Newman has that ability and considering he’s going to be working with a better overall group of receivers than he had at Wake Forest, this attribute of his game should only be amplified in Athens.
Here’s a good example of what Newman can do while pushing the ball downfield.
This is another clip from his first career college start at NC State.
Newman then follows with another just as good on the same drive.
Here’s another deep shot Newman takes after looking off the safety and hitting Memphis’ defense over the top.
Here’s another good deep ball. Keep an eye on the score of the game and the clock situation.
Wake Forest is down to its final possession, losing to Utah State but the moment wasn’t too big for Newman.
Toughness
Toughness is not easily measured. You can’t look it up on a box score, but every great quarterback has to possess it if he’s going to ask them to believe in him.
There are plenty of different ways to judge how tough a quarterback is and I found a few good examples from Newman.
In the clip below, Newman knows he’s going to get hammered but he also knows he’s got a man wide open for a touchdown if he can put it on him. He takes the hit and delivers the perfect pass for the score.
Newman takes a big shot on this play but stands in and delivers a nice touch pass for a touchdown against Duke.
Here’s another example of Newman showcasing his toughness. If you watch closely at the end of the play, it’s Newman (No. 12) who is blocking downfield on this trick play. It appears Newman was the intended receiver, but when the ball wasn’t thrown to him, he attempts to block well downfield for his teammate.
This is a subtle thing to notice, but it’s the type of thing that’s going to get teammates to buy-in and play hard for their quarterback.
Clutch
Make no mistake, playing quarterback for Wake Forest in the ACC and playing at Georgia with are completely different challenges. The national spotlight is now on Newman and as we get closer and closer to kickoff against Virginia for the 2020 opener, he will feel the mounting pressure that comes with controlling the hopes and dreams of Dawg Nation.
How well he handles that remains to be seen, but given what I saw from him at Wake Forest, the senior signal-caller isn’t fazed by pressure.
Remember the first clip in his first career college start? That game came down to the wire and Newman led Wake Forest down the length of the field, without any timeouts, for the game-winning score.
Check out that entire drive here.
Newman found himself in a familiar spot in his first bowl appearance — Wake Forest was down 4 with under a minute remaining and needing to drive 70 yards for the win.
Take a wild guess at what happened.
After watching Newman play, it’s clear the Bulldogs have found their starting quarterback for next season. That being said, Wake Forest played a wide-open offensive system that featured tempo that seemingly aimed to take as many snaps as possible per game.
Newman isn’t Fromm. Their games, strengths and weaknesses are different. If he’s asked to run the same offense Georgia ran last season, the Dawgs will be setting Newman up for failure.
That likely won’t happen. Georgia hired Todd Monken to run the offense in Athens.
With the shift in offensive philosophy underway, the Bulldogs not only landed a great quarterback to fill the void left by Fromm’s early departure, they appear eager to transition to an offense that will fully maximize Newman and the bounty of playmakers on the roster next season.
Smart would have been foolish to continue down the same path offensively and hope for new results next season. Thankfully for Georgia fans, their head coach has seen what LSU and Alabama have accomplished in recent years by opening things up on offense.
If Georgia wins the SEC next season, you will likely be able to trace that achievement back to 2 offseason moves by Smart — hiring Monken to run Georgia’s offense and convincing Newman to transfer to Athens to run the offense.
Cautiously optimistic. Completely changing the scheme comes with risks. And it usually takes a year or so. Especially considering the personnel losses.
“Georgia has too many good receivers to not push the ball down the field.”
Comparing our receiver corps to that of LSU, Alabama, Clemson, OSU, or Florida is laughable at this point. We have Pickens, Blaylock (coming off ACL surgery), and that’s pretty much it in terms of proven commodities. The toolbox has been upgraded, yes, but positions with the kind of struggles UGA had with the WRs last year don’t just upgrade overnight. It’ll take time for a) Blaylock to get healthy and b) for the freshmen to get integrated.
I’m hoping D-Rob can break through this final season. He’s the most experienced receiver we have. If Monken can get the ball to him in space, he’ll be lethal.
Just seems like he’s never fully rebounded from those hamstring injuries.
Using the Florida app now?
I don’t know…Florida and Bama had a good bit of talent move at the WR position this year. It seems all 3 have a couple of proven guys and a ton of freshman talent.
Still, UGA does have the most question marks with the new QB and OC in the mix. Will be interesting to see what Mac Jones does without the All Madden receiving corps too though.
It is fun as a Georgia fan to watch Florida go on about “getting over the UGA hump”. I feel like we were there forever. It is rare in the rivalry that both teams are good…typically it is like the 80’s or 90’s where one team owns the other one.
Looking forward to the more wide open offense though. I do wonder what Fromm would have done in such a scheme but thats college football.
How many times year after year do we have to say the freshman wide receivers need to step up? We hear it every offseason.
How many Georgia fans, or any fans, had ever heard of Newman before he transferred to Georgia? Crickets……That is how good Newman is.
Let’s look at how he did against Clemson, probably the only SEC Caliber defense he faced all year. 6 of 14 for 41 yards and 2 picks.
the future is bright in Athens with this guy at the helm.
I think most UGA fans are taking a wait-and-see approach with regards to Newman. It’s basically the argument of “played in the ACC” vs. “surrounded by Wake Forest talent”. Mac Jones threw two pick sixes against his highest quality defense in Auburn, so I wouldn’t expect him to be the Second Coming of Tua, as do most Alabama fans from what I can tell.
Mac will be serviceable. Game manager until Bryce takes over. But Alabama can and has won with game managers. UGA, ehhhh.
I think Mac is very cerebral, has great work ethic, and is a leader. He just lacks some of the tangibles.
I think Alabama’s defense will have to take a huge step back to the 2011/2016 levels in order for a game-manager offense to suffice.
That being said, the surrounding skill weapons and new offensive style of play pretty much guarantees way more production even with a game manager still playing QB than in 2011-2015. The question is whether or not the defense can do enough, which is something I’d be inclined to trust Saban to take care of.
Excuse me, this article is for teams that can actually win their division. The “also ran” articles are the place for you. Bye now….
Come on DaJerk, no need to be a jerk
I thought this article was for teams that can win a natty on a regular basis. No natty in 40 years just will not cut it.
sds1967
Not that I’m taking up for DaGherk, but your comment is pretty dumb as well. You’re implying that this article isn’t for UGA. It’s literally a UGA article. Why would it not be for us?
Alabama’s D will need to take a giant leap forward, but I think mainly the DC. Talent is there. Just need better coaching. At least I hope.
Mac still has questions with all those receivers gone. I do think he is the more proven commodity and in a better position, especially with the early game at Bama, but his potential upside is also probably lower. He isn’t going to put up bigger numbers than last year with that receiving corps he had. Even if Newman isn’t as good as Fromm, the offense as a whole can still be better with a better scheme and some better options on the other end.
So the cautious optimism is in the fact the team finished number 4 at 12-2, by all indications is going to be equally stout on defense, and doesn’t have an especially high bar to be better on offense.
I’m not going to say they roll in to Tuscaloosa and hand it to Bama, but I don’t think the college football world would be shocked if they are able to get a win either.
I knew you were a Florida fan pretending to be a Dawg.
What happened? Did you forget to switch your pic with your name?
I noticed that too. Helps make sense of some of his comments.
Mac did make those costly pick sixes against Auburn, but he also torched them for more yards and TDs than anyone else did the whole season, including Burrow. That said, we don’t expect him to be Tua, that’s silly. In fact, most Bama fans don’t believe he will be able to keep Bryce Young off the field this season so we’re not looking to Mac as the savior.
In fairness, he had 2 Wide Receivers that are going to go in the first round this year. I do think he isn’t going to lose you games though…we don’t know about Newman. Potential high upside, but higher risk for sure.
That ignores him changing to a team with a better caliber of an offensive line. We all saw what happened when Hurts joined a team with a lesser quality of O line and played LSU. So keep in mind guys moving to teams with better WRs, RBs, and O line can all of a sudden catch fire and look night and day different.
You don’t need a great offensive line in the ACC. The defenses are trash there.
I’m sure Newman will be a serviceable QB once he learns the new system and gets use to the speed of the SEC.
“You don’t need a great offensive line in the ACC. The defenses are trash there.”
Really? Clemson ate your lunch big boy!
The exception, not the rule. You can take the exception and apply it to everyone.
Can’t ^
UGA lost at home to SC… What’s your point?
Is that the same SC that was shut out by another crappy ACC (UVA) defense 28-0. I’m kind of missing all you Bama boy’s points. Guess Clemson still rubs you guys the wrong way.
The point is pretty obvious.. You don’t win every game all the time… It’s pretty clear when you look at UGA losing at home to a team that couldn’t beat App State… A season is more than one game long.
Technically you don’t really know the caliber of the o-line he’s moving to yet as you’re basically replacing your entire line. Yeah most of them saw playing time last year, but giving the starters some rest for a few plays and actually starting and playing significant minutes are completely different animals. It’s easy for a backup lineman to look good with veteran starters all around him, but put a bunch of first time starters in at once and things can go downhill quickly. Right now any thought about your o-line’s abilities is just an assumption and not a guarantee.
Our Oline will absolutely, with out a doubt be significantly better than wake’s Oline. That’s not an assumption.
Joe Marks
UGA has 5 O-linemen with starts coming back in 2020:
Trey Hill, Justin Schaffer, Ben Cleveland, Jamaree Salyer and Warren Ericson.
Addition O-linemen with game experience: Xavier Truss, Owen Condom, Clay Webb and Warren McClendon
In addition to those guys UGA is bringing multiple 5-star and 4-star freshmen.
In 2020 UGA will have one of the top O-lines in the SEC.
Per Pro Football Focus:
Wake Forest’s highest returning O-lineman would have been the 8th highest rated on UGA’s O-line.
Those with 150+ snaps (Salyer, Cleveland, Hill, and Shaffer) would all be WF’s highest rated returner. That doesn’t even count Truss, McClendon, or Condon, all of which should be very dependable.
Not saying the 2020 O-line will be better than 2019 but I don’t foresee it being a huge drop off and without a doubt will be bette than WF’s.
If Fromm had played for Wake Forest, NC St, Maryland, Vandy. Kansas, Rutgers etc how many people would know he was over the last 3 seasons? If Fromm hadn’t played with 4-5 NFL RB’s, 4-5 NFL WR’s, 1 NFL TE and 6-7 NFL O-linemen then how many people would have heard of Fromm?
Outside of Newman – how many WF players from last season can you name or evaluate?
Look, nobody is equating Newman to Trevor Lawrence but Newman was far the best player on a 2nd/3rd tier level team. WF loses a couple or more games with a lesser QB. Many reputable coaches and analysts evaluate Newman as a gifted athlete who given the right system and supporting cast will elevate his game and be a contributor to team success.
I’d say the odds are better than even that Newman will at least match Fromm’s 2019 production. Fromm’s and Newman’s passing stats in 2019 were almost identical while Newman’s rushing states were 400-500 yards while Fromm was negative yards rushing. If UGA can get 3000 combined yards out of Newman then UGA probably wins the SECE.
Plus, Newman is a bridge to Beck, Mathis or possible even Vandergriff in 2021. Just having depth at QB will be a boon for UGA.
Given UGA’s current state – new QB, new OC, many new starters on offense – I’d take Newman over Mac Jones any day.
JN actually rushed for more like 700 yards but sacks take away from a QB’s rushing yards and the WF O line was more like a WTF O line.
Don’t forget we have 5* dual threat Bryce Young who may be the QB this fall.
This is true, but he won’t be the QB at game 3 most likely.
I agree. He may be awesome. But UGA fans are holding onto this guy like he is already Baker, Trevor, or Burrow. I have heard so many times that he was the #3 returning QB, blah blah. Fall in love with what someone did yesterday, and you are a fool.
Settle, let’s see how he fits in, learns Kirbys old antiquated scheme, and gets some game speed experience.
“Fall in love with what someone did yesterday, and you are a fool”
As opposed to what? Falling in love with what you think or hope they are going to do? That seems like the more foolish option to me.
Don’t fall in love with either. Yesterday’s stats, at a different team, in a different conference mean nothing.
Fromm was a big name coming out of high school and a much bigger recruit/prospect than Newman ever was. Kirby made his mark by getting Fromm from Bama. To suggest that Fromm and Newman are even is pretty disrespectful to Fromm. Fromm was a great talent, and most agree it was UGA’s ancient offense that limited him. UGA still has to figure out how to play modern offense, AND Newman has to be great. That’s a tall order.
Troll
Are we really doing this again?
This is a battle of wits, and you are completely outmatches and unequipped. Proud sand.
Pound^
Yep, you talked trash last year, Just as I told you…you will not get past LSU, and you didn’t. Yet you insisted that Bama would win the West, and be in the NC. Same old bravado as last year…you were wrong then, and probably full of it again.
I actually predicted Bama would lose To LSU, and the Iron Bowl. Alabama didn’t enough fire power to make up for the Porous D.
But yeah man. Pat yourself on the back. You tell em.
Uh oh… I am “completely outmatches” . You really got me there smart guy.
ok
Wake’s performance against Clemson is probably more because of the talent disparity. If the OL is getting owned, receivers aren’t getting separation, running game is ineffective, and you’re playing from behind, I’m not sure many QBs would put up good numbers. Isolating statistics and sterilizing them of context renders them ineffective to build an argument on.
Colorado is nothing but a bammer troll. He always has his snarky “the future is bright in Athens” comments. Then he get’s offended when you call him out. It’s rinse and repeat. Nothing he says has any significance.
Take solace then in knowing he just his aass handed to him
Indeed. He’s a passive-aggressive toll.
And a poor one at that.
It’s a shame you would rather engage in tearing someone down for having an opinion rather than being open minded. To each his own. Carry on.
You have such a hard on for me. The man crush is real.
So let me get this straight, If I say I’m trolling, you will leave it alone? We need to place labels on people on here in order to have a conversation. Otherwise you open your mouth and shut your ears.
Carry on.
“You have such a hard on for me”
Says the guy that lives in UGA articles. Again with the same routine.
Troll. Get called out. Cry and backtrack.
It’s old.
At least buy me a drink first.
In the last 2 years, Smart has stuck to his conservative offensive formula. We all see the result of that. Now he’s making changes, fast. Anyone who wanted to take advantage of Georgia’s lackluster offense and didn’t do so last year or the year before has missed their window.
I disagree I think 2020 is the best year to take down UGA. The entire offense has new starters pretty much and a new system. If Smart completely turns over the offense to the OC which I highly doubt then I could see UGA making a legit NC run if they get Vandergriff at QB.
The one thing you can say about Fromm is he made the right reads and didn’t turn the ball over very much. We still don’t know if JN can do either consistently in a new scheme. He seemed to be a one read QB for the most part at Wake.
I will say that the uncertainty around the offense is the big variable in Georgia’s upcoming season. How well the Dawgs integrate Monken’s ideas on offense, and the execution of those ideas, will determine how well the Dawgs do. The offensive line actually returns a lot of talent (5 players who have started and lots of talented backups) and should be fine. The WR corps returns largely intact. We’ll miss Swift, but running back is deep. If Georgia opens up the offense (and there’s a lot of opening up to do), things could be interesting by the time we get to Jacksonville. The defense will be the best in the SEC and one of the best in the country. The offensive transformation is the key.
I knew who he was, but I’m a college football savant.
Your stats aren’t impressive. The other ten players around him at UGA will be much better than the ten around him at Wake Forest.
Anyway, is Alabama’s swiss cheese defense going to stop anyone next year?
I hope Alabama’s defense is better. Several key players back. I just hope the play calling is better.
Alabama has to get better. Last year was not fun.
Who outside of Ohio knew who Joe Burrow was before he transferred to LSU? Cam Newton before Auburn? Baker Mayfield before Oklahoma? Not household names, but all they needed was a change of scenery and the right supporting cast.
Before he landed at UGA Pro Football Focus ranked him the no. 3 returning QB in the nation. No SEC QB made their top ten.
When UGA and Bama hook up in Tuscaloosa in September it’ll be the first time in ten years that the Tide will take the field against an SEC team that is their equal in talent and depth. Saban has had a personnel advantage against virtually every team he’s beaten for 10 years. He will not have that advantage Sep 19th. Based on how Kirby has played Saban the past two times – with a roster disadvantage – this should be another great one.
So your saying that the 2017 UGA team that lost to Bama had a personnel disadvantage? The 2018 team also was talent poor. I guess it was the lack of talent that led to Kirby calling for a fake punt at mid field. I guess losing to the backup QBs does prove your point.
Absolutely the 2017 team and 2018 team both were at a personnel disadvantage to Bama those years. All you have to look at is the Bama players drafted since 2017 versus UGA players drafted. It’s not even close.
Also don’t just look at total number of players drafted but look at the rounds they were drafted in. Like I said, it wasn’t close.
Going into 2017, Bama was riding a streak of like 6 or 7 consecutive years with the no. 1 recruiting class. Not only is that immensely impressive but that means in 2017 Bama had a talent advantage over everyone. Smart’s recruiting machine hadn’t started yet so Georgia’s aggregate roster talent was very much beneath Bama’s. Same thing applies to 2018 but to a lesser extent as Georgia had the no. 1 class in 2018. In 2020 there will be unprecedented parity in roster talent. I’m surprised you reacted incredulously to this fact.
The Blue Chip Ratio tells the story. Bama has been the most talented, deepest team in the country from 2010 to 2018. Ohio State and UGA caught up to Bama in 2019 but did not play each other. In 2020 I expect the BCR will be similar. So yes, come Sep 19th Saban will take the field against a team without an overall roster advantage for the first time in a decade.
Two top 3 classes don’t make up a decade of #1 classes, so yeah, there was a definite roster disadvantage in 2018.
Jamie Newman is at Wake Forrest for a reason: he wasn’t very good coming out of high school and that was the best he could do. To try to squint now and make it look like he’s better than that is silly. Add to that the fact that he’s going to UGA where offense goes to die, and it will be even more difficult. UGA will try to experiment this season with a new look and that will also have some bumps and problems along the way.
As for talent, the SEC has always been loaded. Some of the LSU Bama games over the years have featured records amount of talent on the field in terms of NFL draft picks. You are way too full of yourself to suggest that UGA will represent the most talented team we’ve faced. Your 3 star QB will be one of the lowest ranked guys we’ve ever faced.
Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Marcus Mariota, Baker Mayfield… were all 3 star QBs. I think your focusing a little too much on high school rankings. Every college football analyst in America thinks this guy is pretty good. Why should we listen to you?
UGA can’t win with a 3 star. They couldn’t win with Fromm.
Thanks Nostradumba$$
Alatide, you’re smarter than the folks at Pro Football Focus or Bud Elliott, who developed the Blue Chip Ratio math? Nah, I think I’ll go with the true experts and not some armchair wannabe.
No one cared about Newman until he transferred to UGA, then all of a sudden everyone has an opinion on how great he is. No one knows if he’ll be any good, including me, but the safe bet is that he’ll be mediocre. You’re free to believe otherwise, but there’s no basis for it.
Newman for Heisman 2020!!!
The rose colored glasses are real folks.
Since Bama’s defense is ACC quality at best I like our chances.
Maybe worse than ACC last year. Maybe BIG 12 bad.
Newman is a big kid with all the tangibles..strong runner, big arm…but how about the intangibles like reading a defense and making the right decisions at crucial times in the game. A first Qtr. pick is a pick but a 4th Qtr. pick while driving for winning Touchdown is not just-a-pick. I’ll wait and see how it goes with him. I am wishing the Dawgs the best, but it seems like there are a lot of bridges-to-cross before the season even begins.
“Since Bama’s defense is ACC quality at best I like our chances.“
I expect Bama to be a little better than SC so I expect they should do well against UGA..
RT N C, Let’s look at how he did against Clemson, and I’m not talking about Newman, a QB surrounded and supported by Wake Forrest talent.
No. Let’s look at how he Tua Tagovailoa did against Clemson. The final score was Clemson 44 – Alabama 16…
So… What’s your point? Besides showing your fear, you are only wishing outloud…
Yeah, you’re right, I’m sure Kirby would prefer Newman over Tua. Newman must be a beast to have received a scholly from Wake Forrest.
So you think Newman is better than Tua. LOL. True colors are dim in Georgia.
How in the world sis what he said equate to “JN is better than Tua”?? You should learn to read before calling others stupid. Clown
Tim’s comment was obviously (except, apparently to you) a response to the folks who are focusing on how poorly Newman performed against Clemson. He was drawing a parallel that Tua folded against them as well, even with vastly superior talent around him than Newman had. Did that really fly over your head?
I really don’t understand your obsession with UGA articles, and your constant needling of UGA fans. I don’t think I have read a single Alabama article, and I know I have never commented on one. Ya’ll just don’t interest me. Do you have some type of inferiority complex in life that you are compensating for, or are you just bored with your life?
He is pointing out similarities between Tua and Newman, and how they each did against a similar opponent. By definition that is a comparison.
I comment on every teams articles. I have an obsession with SEC football. I get it, silence anyone who has a different opinion than you. The liberal way. This is an open forum. Petition to silence other fan bases to SDS. Not me.
“The liberal way”
Just when I thought you couldn’t be any more of an idiot you come up with this gem. No on is trying to “silence” you. No one cares. Calling you out for what you are isn’t an attempt to silence it’s just pointing out your passive aggressive attempts at trolling are pathetic and deserve criticism.
You care enough to comment.
My name is not Adam Schiff. Post all your irritating comments at your pleasure. I was just noticing that you seem to have an obsession with Georgia. Did we touch you?
Roll Tide you better be careful next thing you know someone will sub in a zero for one of the “o”s in your name and create a troll account to impersonate you and silence you.
It happened to me
If you touched me it was memorable. Which isn’t surprising. Are you Nadler? Hunter Biden.lol
Even though you guys clearly don’t agree with me posting on Georgia articles, I do enjoy the banter. It is at least entertaining.
Wow. I have never had something like that happen. At least I’m not aware of that. Seems like something a basement dweller would do.
Seeing you two losers come together is magical.
If that pleases you it’s no wonder you like the Newman transfer. Bar is low.
@RollTide, I do happen to live in ACC country and have seen a lot of games with Newman at Wake Forest, a couple in person. He is talented and I believe the above article is highly skewed given video of opponents shown are not “SEC level”. You are correct, the only real comparison to what he will see in 2020 is against Klem’s Son and it wasn’t pretty, but he was w/o his #1 receiver in that game. Most UGA fans are skeptical and in “wait and see” mode because, yes he will have to face more NFL caliber talent on SEC defenses, but he will also have more tools to work with and arguably what will likely be the SEC’s #1 defense on his side too.
For all we know, Newman comes in a sets records like Burrow. At least that is what UGA fans already think before he even takes a snap.
All I’m saying, is wait and see.
No UGA fans are saying that. Every UGA post on here is on the line of he has potential. You are the one saying he’s doomed to fail. You’re making predictions not us.
My God, nobody from UGA is predicting anything like that and you know it. Jeez.
Useless troll.
Ok
DumbsOfWar has predicted exactly that several times. Is he not a Georgia fan? I though him and Corch were the face of Georgia fandom
These Dawg fans struggle with facts and reality. I just let it go after a while.
They think Newman is going to come in a win the SEC, and do does Kirby. That’s why he went and got him. The lights are in fact dim in Athens.
So does^
I never saw TDOW say anything like that and I don’t even read corch’s posts. Face of Georgia fandom?? Only to you. Does that make your fellow gaturd trolls the “face of Florida fandom”? Quit being an idiot.
@colorado I find it amusing that you can’t write a coherent sentence and continue to insult people’s intelligence. It’s hilarious.
Typing ability on my iPhone equals…intelligence. Ok
Can’t deny that what I said is true, or point out things you disagree with, just label and shame.
Kirby went and got this kid because he thinks he can win the SEC and have the best chance to win a natty. Right? Do you disagree?
Of course he did. That has nothing to do with anything you’ve been saying though. Kirby obviously felt experience is important. Crazy idea right? JN is a better option than a true freshman QB. Right? Do you disagree?
He was the best QB available and we desperately needed another scholarship QB because of Mathis’ lack of medical clearance. The transfer class didn’t have any headliners. Stroud was the preferred option but OSU was able to recruit him longer because they didn’t have anybody besides Fields ahead of him.
Saying TDOW or Corch represent the UGA fandom is moronic and like me cherry-picking the most brash couple of fans from the Bama guys on this site and saying “oh look–all Bama fans are saying this”.
That is what I’m saying!! I disagree that Newman will win you a natty. Fromm was better than Newman, in my opinion. Newman is not the answer. Maybe develop from within and recruit the right players.
Hope it works out for you. Not trolling, I actually do hope it works out. A healthy UGA is good for the SEC.
I think Fromm was better too. But Fromm left. JN is a better option than a TF one like Kirby said Mathis is coming off brain surgery.
Why do you think Kirby can’t develop a QB? The Fromm kid was a good get for UGA, then He regressed. Suppose to go the other way.
He did develop Jake. The guy took a noticeable step from 2017 to 2018 and in 2019 still threw for more yards and less INTs with his top 5 pass catchers missing as well as a new OC.
If not for Mathis’ freak brain surgery incident he’d probably be in line to start. Kirby has consistently been signing the right guys and if not for Fields not wanting to redshirt or Mathis’ incident would have had a guy right in line. Newman is the best available option from a situation that was not caused by Kirby’s “mismanagement”. “Mismanagement” is when you don’t sign any blue-chip WRs in 2017-2018 and then aren’t prepared for your top 3 junior pass catchers to declare early.
Fromm regressed under Coley. Kirby hired a new OC. What else is he supposed to do? Kirby doesn’t develop QBs. His background is defense. Are you suggesting Saban develops QBs? Lol
I’m trying to ask a serious question. As the HC, it is all your responsibility. You are in charge of these young men and developing them.
And it’s already been said. You don’t give Kirby credit for Jake’s improvement from 17 to 18 but give him blame on Jake’s regression from 18 to 19. Kirby made the wrong OC hire. He’s remedied it since then. I understand that as HC you are ultimately responsible but Kirby has never developed QBs. He hired a new OC. It’s done. If Jake came back maybe his numbers improve we’ll never know.
You are also ignoring a fact that Kirby brought up. Jake lost almost all of his pass catchers last season. Any QB would struggle under the circumstances and Jake still won 12 games. You keep acting like Jake was garbage this year. It’s not the case.
Using this logic I could say something like “Saban’s fault for causing Hurts to regress from SEC OPOTY to losing his starting job to some injury-prone southpaw”.
The best QB available in the portal was D’Eric King not Newman
OK 2nd best…does it really matter?
King wasn’t in the portal when UGA took Newman–it wasn’t known for sure whether or not he would transfer.
I had heard lots about Newman before he came to Georgia. In fact the only times I heard about Wake Forest at all were in the context of how good Jamie Newman was… That’s why I was so shocked to hear he was going to be a graduate transfer. I was certain he had that spot locked down at Wake but I guess he wanted a bigger opportunity.
The UGA coaches obviously didn’t burn a scholarship on Newman to have him sit on the bench, and Newman obviously didn’t transfer with the intention of being a bench-warmer. However, if he doesn’t pan out we have another experienced option, Bennett, who would be a serviceable game manager and a couple of young players who could step up. one of them, Mathis, was a highly rated recruit who has spent a year getting familiar with the program after his brain cyst sidelined him. He should be cleared for contact by May. His familiarity with the program and players will give him a solid foundation.
Long story short, we have options. Like others, I’m cautiously optimistic.
Dude, you are dreaming if you think Bennett is serviceable. The guy is a turnover machine even at lower levels of football. No way they can go with him unless it’s an absolute emergency, and if that happens UGA won’t finish in the top 25. Mathis isn’t even a guarantee to ever play again so I wouldn’t bank on that either. It’s Newman or bust, and that’s gonna be a big gamble. This is a product of Kirby’s mismanagement of the Justin Fields situation.
How the crap did he mismanage the Justin Fields situation? Do you really think Fields would have thrown for over 300 yards against Alabama in the SECCG or gone for 240 yards and 3 TDs against Florida?
Kirby went after the best guy available and signed him and gave him an opportunity to beat out one of the best signal-callers in the country. He did not, and instead transferred to a place where he won the starting job.
Yeah, Bennett is not really an option as an SEC starting QB and as much as I want Mathis to succeed, he may never play again… we just don’t know. Current roster considered, Beck and now Newman, are the only realistic options in 2020.
Concerning Newman…I believe that there are a lot of ??? Playing in the ACC is a lot different from the SEC. Being a one-year transfer QB is not a bowl of cherries, we know that. Lots of new stuff to learn & process. He’s got to meet & mesh with his his new team…gain some respect and learn the system, then actually play in the SEC. And play well. His legs will bring something different to the Dawg’s offense, for sure…and I’m sure Monken will play-call to that strength.Let’s look at his number of picks after four(4) games & we’ll all know how he has immersed himself into the Conference.
Great breakdown of Newman’s game. I personally think he’s going to be a superstar for UGA next year.
I find it strange his numbers invalidated by playing the ACC, but Trevor’s are validated (with highly recruited receivers and a highly recruited o-line). It is a bit strange that people are cherry picking stats to knock him.
Won’t know what he’ll be, but if he can be a better DJ Shockley I’d accept that.
And that’s with much better players surrounding Lawrence
It’s not just the ACC factor. You guys are acting like you can take any old 3 start QB, surround him with talent, and watch the fireworks. The QB also needs to be a big time talent. Look at the playoffs this year, all big time studs. No one would put Newman in that category, but UGA fans think because he’ll have talent around him he’ll suddenly be that guy.
Y’all are really trying hard to push that false narrative. Every dawg fan here is basically saying “we don’t know what he will be but he can’t be worse than what we had “ from a production stand point. No one is saying he will or won’t be a stud just because he has talent around him.
And side note this year was an anomaly at the QB position , Clemson made it with Kelly Bryant to the playoffs, Ohio state won one with the third string ? Auburn was a game away with Stidham (arguably might have been a shot with a healthy Kerryon against UGA) Do you remember who Michigan state qb was ? Ian book really a stud anymore than Jamie Newman ?
Stop acting like to win games he needs to be deshaun Watson. He doesn’t. Jalen Hurts was a winner at Bama but he wasn’t a prolific passer and faltered against elite defenses Clemson national championship and SECCG against UGA withstanding.
You need to read more of the comments if you think all UGA fans are on the same page with this one. There are plenty who think he’s going to be a stud, and there’s just no basis for that.
This year was not an anomaly. You mentioned Kelly Bryant, but what happened to that team? They were embarrassed in the first round of the playoffs after walking through their easy schedule. Ohio State’s year with those 3 QBs was a special year and all three played great, if anything, that was the anomaly. Stidham was a great college QB and a huge recruit, unlike Newman. And again, Mich St and Notre Dame have been embarrassed in the playoffs because the QB sucked. That’s the whole point. You have to have an elite QB if you want to win it all.
That was also the point of the SEC Championship game this year. You saw old school vs new school and UGA was embarrassed. Gotta have the elite QB or you will not come close to a title.
YOU need to read more of the comments. UGA fans thinking “he has the talent to be pretty good” isn’t the same as saying “he’s an elite talent”. He’s good. Anyone with half a braincell can see it. No one is saying he’s elite. We finished 4th in the country this year and if he and the new OC can improve the offense even a little bit I like our chances. We still play defense in Georgia so we don’t need to score 40+ just to win a game.
I think most UGA fans are right in the wait and see approach. He may turn out to be very good but you have to dampen any big build ups with the fact he played in the Atlantic cushion conference. Unless you come from a team called clemPson you have to see to believe.
Georgia State is Sunbelt
I’m not even sure what conference BYU is in, Mtn West, WAC whatever
Not that anyone cares but BYU is a football independent but in all other sports they are in West Coast Conference (Gonzaga’s league)
What does your reply have to do with anything. Fuzzy is correct, your new QB hasn’t done squat in the SEC yet so you need to wait and see before you give him that Heisman
An irrelevant reply that ignores the fact that we should all approach Newman’s debut with prudence and realistic expectations.
Maybe y’all can catch lightning in a bottle like LSU did with Burrow.
Burrow was a highly rated, 4 star talent. Newman was a mediocre 3 star guy who went to Wake Forrest. Just because someone transfers in doesn’t mean they become a superstar.
And it took Burrow two years to explode, he was good but not great his first season
He may of been a highly rated 4 star, but Burrow only had one quality school recruit him and that was Ohio state. The only other decent school was Virginia tech. Newman will be a wait and see, new offense and new Qb usually lead to a decent year. I hope he comes in a does great but only time will tell.
Burrow was only recruited by OSU and VaTech, and Newman was recruited by? And what planet does new offense and QB mean something good? Anytime you suddenly change your philosophy and key players that means something bad.
Yeah like when Bama went with Sims and that heavy passing offense, right?
I’m guessing Alatide doesn’t understand the meaning of “decent”. Decent means reasonably good; adequate: I didn’t say they would be great or watch out we getting a natty. If you have the right players and coaches, you can switch and not miss a beat. It’s not like they are going from the option to the spread.
Joe Burrow spent time in two(2) top-tier schools, Ohio State and LSU. Such a bad analogy.
I think we did. All the Alabama fans are posting all over the place. Seems like the whole state of Alabama is on this article. They must be scared. They already know our defense is better than their’s. Looks like our offense is headed that way too.
Count me as one that isn’t salivating over the Newman hype. I think he has plenty of potential, certainly has an arm. But everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that he’s transferring in to what is essentially a brand new offensive scheme. He has to learn the playbook, he has to get comfortable with the receiving corps, he has to find a rhythm against SEC defenses which are orders of magnitude faster and bigger than the ACC. And all of that can really only be done on the game field, not the practice field.
And the comment about having too many good receivers to not push the ball downfield…I assume that comment reflects the commits we picked up and not last year’s corps, because last year’s core was inexplicably anemic. Without Cager and Pickens, there would have no receiving corps.
I’m glad to pick up Newman, it at least gives us experience but I’m not drinking the full glass of kool aid at this point. Maybe 1/4 of it.
Agree! He has talent, just how much is yet to be determined.
You guys have changed my mind. I believe Newman comes into Georgia in 2020, wins the East, the SECCG, and the Heisman over Brennan at LSU (LSU fans believe he will win), and the NC.
Kirby is a genius and went and got a stud to complete the roster. You just better hope you don’t play Clemson, I mean you couldn’t even beat South Carolina last year.
It’s like you have a troll disease. You just can’t help yourself. I’d worry about Bama and your swiss cheese defense if I were you. Oh yeah and getting past auburn.lol
Yes. This one was trolling. You are getting the hang of it.
They are ALL trolls. You’re pathetic. Almost as pathetic as Bama’s defense. Almost.
Nice comparison. At least we agree on something. Bama’s defense was pathetic.
Fantasy the idiot does not equal all LSU fans.
in that TD drive in the video, the TD was a pass to the TE! That may match UGa’s total TE TD’S FOR 2019. May be close to TE TARGETS FOR 2019. Personally, i think NEW OC is bigger factor than NEW QB
100%
Newman wont last long in the sec trying to run the ball. He will end up getting injured within a few games.
So are you saying he IS like Tua Fragiloa.
He’s 6’3″ 230lbs. I think he’ll be just fine.
Can’t believe y’all are arguing with Bama fans. They are Bama fans. Of course they know more than any football analyst. They are Bama fans. They know all things about football. Just ask them. Math, reading, and science, may be a challenge, but football? They know it all.
They dominate at all things football. I looked for them at the SEC championship game this year to ask them about it, but couldn’t find one for some reason.
You found your way to the parking lot in the third quarter once UGA was embarrassed. Good thing you play in the East where there’s no competition. Good luck making the transition to a modern offense.
Two east teams were able to beat Auburn. If I were you I’d worry more about Bama and less about UGA.
We found a way to handle South Carolina. You?
Nope we lost in 2OT to USC.
Meanwhile Awwburn dropped nearly 50 on Bama.
Your comment was on how there is “no competition” in the East. I’m just pointing out that 2 East teams beat Awwburn. An Awwburn team that scorched Bama.
Awwburn scored more against Bama in the fist half then they did against UGA and Uf in 4 quarters….combined
I don’t know how Newman will work out…but to say he’s not going to because he’s from the acc is just silly..ohh he had bad numbers against Clemson…big shocker there…I tell ya what…take Mac Jones…or even Tua or Burrow…put them on Wake Forest..with Wake Forest talent and put them up against Clemson and see how they do…you think any of those guys are gonna put up good numbers surrounded by Wake talent? Again I don’t know how Newman will do… Colorado and others may be right but their reason is just totally silly…just because you haven’t heard of a guy and he plays at Wake or he’s just a 3 star…none of that means he won’t be successful at UGA….I’m guessing none of us had heard of Patrick Mahomes when he was at Texas tech…he was only offered scholarships to Tech, Houston and Rice…just because a guy doesn’t play at a big school and wasn’t a 5 star…that doesn’t mean he’s no good…I’m not comparing Newman to any of those guys…Newman might not even win the job at UGA…but it won’t be just because he’s from Wake Forest and he was just a 3 star…news flash not every good player is from the sec…and there not all 4 or 5 star recruit’s…
Yeah, cautious optimism would be my approach. Still a ton of question marks between the new OC, all those freshmen Wide Receivers and simply can this guy play in the SEC.
Definitely excited about the new scheme coming though, especially if they can continue to recruit elite running backs.
Should find out pretty quick what the team is made of though with the early game in Tuscaloosa.