After spending nearly 20 years in the NBA, Shaquille O’Neal should know a few things about round objects.

In his mind, however, the Earth is shaped nothing like a basketball. It’s a known fact that the planet on which we live is round, but that hasn’t stopped some NBA stars from arguing otherwise.

Earlier in the year, Cleveland Cavaliers point guard Kyrie Irving surprised a lot of people when he said he believed the Earth was flat. Now, Shaq is saying he believes the same thing. He made his argument the Big Podcast with Shaq, and it’s pretty amusing.

“It’s true. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. Yeah, it is. Yes, it is,” Shaq begins. “Listen, there are three ways to manipulate the mind — what you read, what you see and what you hear. In school, first thing they teach us is, ‘Oh, Columbus discovered America,’ but when he got there, there were some fair-skinned people with the long hair smoking on the peace pipes. So, what does that tell you? Columbus didn’t discover America. So, listen, I drive from coast to coast, and this (expletive) is flat to me. I’m just saying. I drive from Florida to California all the time, and it’s flat to me. I do not go up and down at a 360-degree angle, and all that stuff about gravity, have you looked outside Atlanta lately and seen all these buildings? You mean to tell me that China is under us? China is under us? It’s not. The world is flat.”

There are so many questions that come up after hearing that. For starters, how do you go up or down at a 360-degree angle? Also, Shaq’s description of Native Americans is incredible.

People will undoubtedly react to this in all sorts of ways, but we aren’t here for that. Everyone has some beliefs that others might find crazy, and some that can easily be disproven, but each person is entitled to his or her opinion.

You keep doing you, Shaq, because it’s extremely entertaining.