On the 5-year anniversary of Joe Burrow's LSU commitment, what if he had picked Cincinnati?
On May 18, 2018, nobody could’ve predicted how many lives would change with a simple announcement. When the college football calendar was supposed to be at its least relevant time, one could argue that the most relevant personnel move of the past 5 years took place in the middle of a typical, mid-May day.
Former Ohio State quarterback Joe Burrow picked LSU instead of Cincinnati.
It was seen as a bit of a surprise that the Ohio native elected to leave his home state and sign up for a gauntlet SEC schedule, which had many speculating whether Ed Orgeron would get a Year 3. Entering Year 4 of college, Burrow wanted to play. He left Ohio State after deciding he wasn’t going to beat out Dwayne Haskins, who shined in relief for the injured JT Barrett at Michigan in 2017. That only happened because Burrow broke his hand. But even healthy after an impressive spring, he elected to take his talents elsewhere instead of risking the idea of being a backup as a redshirt junior.
The rest, of course, is history. A Heisman Trophy, a national championship, a No. 1 overall selection and a blossoming NFL career turned Burrow into one of the faces of American sports.
But the sliding doors? They’re aplenty.
What if Burrow had opted to join Luke Fickell at Cincinnati and he never played a down in the SEC? How would that have impacted LSU and the people who defined that magical 2019 season? What about other college football powers? Did Burrow impact them, too? Absolutely.
Let’s dig into that.
I don’t really think an Ohio State sliding door makes sense
Why? A few reasons. Haskins was going to win that job. Nothing Burrow could’ve done would’ve changed that. Today, we’re focusing on the post-spring decision. It isn’t realistic to pretend that Burrow could’ve stayed when a quarterback a year younger than him was the favorite to win the starting job. Even if Burrow had known that Haskins would be 1-and-done as Ohio State’s starter, waiting another year wasn’t in his plans.
Besides, the Buckeyes ended up replacing Haskins with Justin Fields. In consecutive years, they had 2 guys who finished No. 3 in the Heisman voting. Granted, Fields was a distant 3rd to Burrow’s runaway victory in 2019.
Still, though. Ohio State’s trajectory probably would’ve been extremely similar to what it was in 2018 and 2019. They had 1-loss seasons with superstar quarterbacks. Actually, 2018 Haskins was better than 2018 Burrow.
As much as some might knock Ohio State for ever letting Burrow leave and deliver arguably the best single season in college football history elsewhere, we shouldn’t pretend like the Buckeyes made some Sam Bowie-Michael Jordan goof.
Ed Orgeron doesn’t get a 2019 season without Burrow’s commitment
That’s your first obvious sliding door.
Orgeron had a short leash as Joe Alleva’s outside-the-box, we-missed-on-Tom-Herman hire. An LSU team that had yet to reach a New Year’s 6 bowl game in the Playoff era was desperate. Specifically, Orgeron was desperate. Of little concern to him was quarterback depth. He determined that he didn’t have a quarterback who could take LSU to the places he wanted to go.
Redshirt freshman Myles Brennan was still very much in the “he needs to add more weight” phase of his career, Lowell Narcisse had plenty of size but not enough experience as a fellow redshirt freshman and Justin McMillan was entering Year 4 at LSU and clearly viewed himself as the presumed starter as the elder statesman of the quarterback room:
Love this game too much to to be toyed with. #longsleeveszn pic.twitter.com/mrOxXlaFXm
— JUSTIN MCMILLAN (@HONEYSLOTH_13) May 9, 2018
For what it’s worth, that tweet was as LSU was hosting Burrow on his official visit, wherein large amounts of crawfish were famously consumed. Also, McMillan was no slouch. He went on to become a solid quarterback at Tulane. But would McMillan have led LSU to a New Year’s 6 bowl game in 2018? Nope.
Remember, Burrow wasn’t the 2019 version of himself, but he was still pretty darn clutch to lead LSU to a 9-3 regular season against that grueling schedule. It might be easy to assume that all LSU needed was a game-manager at QB during that 2018 season, but we can’t forget that Burrow still had moments on the road at Auburn and A&M wherein we saw that superstar potential. LSU needed that to avoid having 3 losses by the end of October.
If Orgeron started off 6-3 with a blowout loss to Alabama — something that even Burrow couldn’t avoid in Year 1 — I believe he would’ve been fired. He would’ve been an inexpensive coach to part ways with pre-2019 raise, and a desperate LSU would’ve taken another crack at finding its next long-term coach.
The problem with that would’ve been, well, this …
So what did the post-2018 coaching cycle look like? Meh.
Let’s not forget that Scott Woodward was not in Baton Rouge yet. This post-2018 search would’ve had an Alleva scope, not a Woodward scope. In other words, it probably wasn’t realistic to think that Alleva was in position to poach someone like James Franklin after 5 years at Penn State, and even eventual-LSU coach Brian Kelly was still coming off his first Playoff berth at Notre Dame. The writing on the wall wasn’t there yet like it was in 2021.
We can’t ever rule out Mike Gundy and his potential interest at LSU, though given the fact that he’s still in Stillwater, it’s hard to assume that Alleva would’ve been the AD to get him to leave.
Here are a few of the coaches who were on the move after the 2018 season:
- Scott Satterfield
- Dana Holgorsen
- Mel Tucker
- Manny Diaz
Meh. The splashiest hire of the cycle was, ironically enough, Les Miles at Kansas.
It’s possible that Alleva could’ve done a total 180 and gone for a big swing with booster momentum, but at the same time, we didn’t have any evidence that he could land the big fish. His indecisiveness with Miles’ firing was criticized and the well-documented shortcomings with the Tom Herman move led us to believe that any sort of Orgeron successor after 2018 would’ve been a bit more underwhelming.
Could someone like Dave Doeren or Kevin Steele have been a target? Perhaps.
Who knows? Maybe the splashy, risk-it-all hire would’ve been a post-Louisville version of Bobby Petrino. Is it possible that Alleva, who clearly enjoyed going a bit more rogue, would have been so desperate to find his offensive-minded head coach and quarterback guru, that he resorted to Petrino? Maybe, though the timing of that wouldn’t have been great because Petrino was fired at Louisville after the 2018 season.
It’s probably unlikely, but it’s sure as heck entertaining to think of Petrino as Orgeron’s successor.
We have to consider the likely possibility that even in the pre-transfer portal era, many of those 2019 LSU stars would’ve left
We spend so much time talking about how that offense took off in 2019, and understandably so. It was historically dominant against elite competition in ways that we might not see again. Burrow and the scheme change with Joe Brady triggered all of that. If Orgeron had been fired, that 2019 group inevitably would have lost some future stars, even in the pre-portal era.
Ja’Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson and Clyde Edwards-Helaire would’ve all had options, though I suppose you could argue that an offensive-minded Orgeron successor could’ve kept them. The defense, though, would’ve potentially been gutted.
In Orgeron’s post-2019 title class of 2020, 16 of the 22 signees eventually transferred or were separated from the team. A good chunk of that was related to Orgeron’s post-2021 departure. We can’t apply that same logic to LSU post-2018 because immediate eligibility was only available to undergrads through the waiver process, but still. Think about guys like Grant Delpit, Patrick Queen and K’Lavon Chaisson. Could they have bounced?
And what about Derek Stingley Jr.? Stingley committed to LSU in the summer of 2018, but he would’ve signed weeks after a potential Orgeron firing. He could’ve gone anywhere and played as a true freshman, so his loyalty to LSU could’ve very well depended on Orgeron’s successor.
What if … Dave Aranda had been that guy? It’s possible, especially considering how respected he was (and is) in the coaching world. Looking back, that sure would’ve been much better than a potential hire of Steele or Doeren.
But remember, Alleva did the in-house promotion thing and it would’ve failed with Orgeron. Would he really get full support to do that again? Or would he be forced to make an outside hire on the offensive side of the ball — where LSU was desperate to get signs of life — in hopes that hire could retain Aranda as DC? The latter would’ve been ideal, but I question the assumption that Aranda would’ve stuck around for a third different regime.
My guess? Aranda would have followed a whole lot of that talent out the door before 2019.
Who benefits the most from that 2019 LSU team not being historic? Alabama and Clemson
No question.
Peak-Burrow and maybe peak-Trevor Lawrence were the only quarterbacks having a day like that in Tuscaloosa against that Alabama squad. Anything short of Burrow wasn’t ending LSU’s losing streak to the Tide, which was approaching 8 years.
While I can’t say for certain what the quarterback situation would’ve looked like with Orgeron’s post-2018 successor, I cannot imagine them being good enough to beat a Tua Tagovailoa-led Alabama team. Speaking of Tagovailoa, he suffered the hip injury against MSU, which was after the LSU game. If Alabama had faced a Burrow-less LSU, it would’ve gone into the 2019 Iron Bowl undefeated, but without Tagovailoa.
So … would Mac Jones have been the 2019 version of Cardale Jones? That, I believe, was absolutely on the table. Even if Bama still had lost the Iron Bowl, it would’ve played for an SEC Championship against that Georgia team. Could Jones have led the Tide to a victory against the Dawgs? History says backup quarterbacks always seem to work out well for Alabama against Georgia in Atlanta.
At the very least, it’s a thrilling SEC Championship where the winner would’ve been a considerable favorite to win the Playoff semifinal and face Clemson in the national championship. Perhaps we would’ve gotten Alabama-Clemson, Part 5. My money would’ve been on Alabama to get revenge against Clemson, though I suppose that’s by no means a given. That Clemson team did jump out to an early lead against LSU, and with the level that Lawrence was playing at in 2019, the Tigers could’ve picked up where they left off against Alabama following the title game blowout the previous season.
If Alabama had won a title with Jones, would the Tide have repeated and still won in 2020? That’s a tougher question to answer because while Jones still would’ve been the quarterback, who knows? Maybe DeVonta Smith leaves for the NFL Draft after 2019 instead of staying his senior year and becoming the first 21st century receiver to win the Heisman Trophy. Shoot, maybe that could’ve led to Lawrence winning the Heisman in 2020.
That’s all possible. What we know to be true is that Burrow’s brilliance likely blocked the Tide’s path to sniffing consecutive titles … as well as Clemson.
Did Georgia actually need that 2019 LSU team to get to where it is today? Yes.
I’m a firm believer that the day LSU smoked Georgia in the 2019 SEC Championship was what helped set the wheels in motion for Kirby Smart. He had to change. His offense needed a shift. LSU showed us exactly why a scheme change could yield great results for a team that already had top-5 talent. Georgia, by virtue of watching its top-ranked defense get smashed, had to adapt.
Smart moved on from James Coley as his offensive coordinator and brought in Todd Monken, who was billed as a pro-style system guy who could incorporate some of the Air Raid and tempo concepts that were becoming more synonymous with the NFL. Monken, for my money, was the single most important assistant hire of the Playoff era. I do not believe UGA repeats if not for his brilliance.
Does UGA still win at least 1 title in 2021 or 2022? Maybe. But even in 2021, you saw that Georgia team rally against Alabama in the title game with a highly efficient passing game in the 4th quarter. The Dawgs weren’t predictable. Stetson Bennett IV was unstoppable late. He was confident in part because he got reps in that system in 2020, which was the silver lining of that season. Bennett needed Monken’s offense. Georgia needed Monken’s offense.
While everyone in college football might’ve sought their version of Brady after watching LSU tear the sport up in 2019, so few teams actually had the personnel and talent to shift into offensive overdrive. Georgia was one of those teams.
If Georgia faced Alabama in that 2019 SEC Championship, there are 2 scenarios I could’ve seen play out. Either Georgia would’ve won that game and a Playoff/title game-bound Smart wouldn’t have had any reason to change his offensive approach. Or, his team could’ve lost to Alabama and it would’ve been seen as “Kirby still can’t get over the Saban hump.” I’m not so sure that any type of loss to Alabama would’ve been seen as a reason for why Smart needed to change his offensive approach.
Losing the way UGA did to LSU — in front of a Georgia-heavy crowd that was defeated by halftime — could’ve absolutely led Georgia down the path to truly thinking and operating like the juggernaut we know it to be today.
That’s right. Give Burrow partial credit for beginning UGA’s run of dominance.
So what would Burrow have become if he’d gone to Cincinnati?
I always find myself defaulting to the somewhat boring answer to that question. In 2018-19 with a solid Cincinnati squad under Fickell, my guess is that Burrow would’ve been viewed similarly to an upperclassman version of Desmond Ridder. That is, an excellent college player who would’ve made a lot of noise at the Group of 5 level, but he still would’ve been more of a mid-round prospect.
The Bearcats would have unleashed Burrow’s legs like LSU was finally able to do late in the 2018 season, but there’s no way that offense could have yielded anything close to what we saw at LSU in 2019. Burrow would’ve been seen as 1 of the top 10 college quarterbacks in the country and been regarded as a potential Day 2 prospect without an immediate path to playing time in the NFL.
Burrow changed Ridder’s path, no doubt. Ridder would have held a clipboard instead of starting like he did in 2018-19. Maybe Cincinnati doesn’t become the first and only Group of 5 Playoff team during Ridder’s senior season in 2021, and perhaps the program isn’t poached by the Big 12. Then again, it’s no guarantee that Ridder’s reps in 2018-19 were the difference in those things happening.
The irony is that if Burrow had picked the Bearcats, the city that would be feeling that the most is in fact … Cincinnati. I’d even include Baton Rouge in that discussion. Why? The Bengals have their franchise quarterback. They have someone who could have one of the highest approval ratings of anyone on the planet. He has potential to be in the same conversation as LeBron James in terms of his impact on the state of Ohio.
Burrow is all of those things, and then some.
Perhaps picking Cincinnati as a transfer destination would’ve only been a detour on his path to NFL success. It’s possible that Burrow was always going to work his way into an opportunity at the professional level, and that he’d thrive once he got it.
But I’ll always be convinced that the legendary version of what he became had to include LSU. He had to figure out who he was as a player and learn how to distribute to elite weapons. Maybe he had to absorb a cheap shot against UCF to get to a place that he didn’t know he had. Brady’s arrival could’ve been at the root of why he made the game look so easy.
Burrow has since repeatedly said that he’ll always be indebted to LSU for taking a chance on him. Five years later, we can say with certainty that the feeling is mutual.
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“He has potential to be in the same conversation as LeBron James in terms of his impact on the state of Ohio.”
So he’ll bow to the CCP and fake injuries?
….or, bring them a championship.
LeBron has multiples. Borrow has zero.
LeBron won one title in Cleveland, not multiple.
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“LeBron won one title in Cleveland, not multiple.”
He has multiple titles in his career, Gommer Pyle.
Impact on the state of Ohio. Your lack of reading comprehension is a bad look for your fake Auburn degree. You think LeBron winning a title in Miami means anything to Ohio? Moron elsewhere.
“Impact on the state of Ohio. Your lack of reading comprehension is a bad look for your fake Auburn degree. You think LeBron winning a title in Miami means anything to Ohio? Moron elsewhere.”
Lebron’s multiple titles indeed have an impact. It puts him up there with Jordan etc, Pyle.
Also, it’s funny how just the other day you said you were going to not respond to my comments yet here you are like a poor little lapdog.
Get lost.
Too funny. Doubling down on being a goof is so you. If you think LeBron winning titles in LA and Miami had any impact on the state of Ohio, then I’m quite certain that your fake Auburn degree was not in economics. Try harder. Maybe just change your profile name and start over. But, you do you.
“If you think LeBron winning titles in LA and Miami had any impact on the state of Ohio, then I’m quite certain that your fake Auburn degree was not in economics. ”
He’s from Ohio you colossal pile of dung. His stature carries weight no matter where he plays.
Mocking me for graduating from AU is cute though. It’s as if you actually think I care about your opinion of me.
Also, for someone that claimed that you’d stop responding to my post you sure do lie poorly.
Stolen valor is a bad look.
I doubt you graduated HS, much less college. You aren’t even bright enough to realize that I was disparaging you, not Auburn, with your fake degree talk. You’re just a troll pretending to be something you clearly aren’t. Troll on.
” doubt you graduated HS, much less college. You aren’t even bright enough to realize that I was disparaging you, not Auburn, with your fake degree talk. ”
I really hit a nerve with you. I’m still laughing over the fact that you stated you’d stop responding to me…yet you respond to everything I post.
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Ron, you’ve become quite…sad/bitter. With all of these accusations of people not graduating from said school, maybe you should start providing proof you’ve actually graduated from said college. The more you troll, the more you look…well, stupid.
“Ron, you’ve become quite…sad/bitter. ”
No not really.
“With all of these accusations of people not graduating from said school”
You mean facts. Those aren’t accusations.
“chool, maybe you should start providing proof you’ve actually graduated from said college.”
What would you like? Should I post a pic of my degree hanging on the wall of my office? Do you want transcripts?
Well, I imagine the overtime rule would not have been changed.
No kidding, man.
OT rules would still be the same if not for awesome performances in that game by Burrow and Mond I will add.
Joe Burrow will be the face of college and NFL football for years to come.
He’ll have to win a Super Bowl and win MVPs to do that.
The face of college football is Nick Saban and the face of the NFL is Patrick Mahomes.
“The face of college football is Nick Saban”
And what an ugly face that is.
It’s 2023
The face of college football is Kirby Smart
The face of Deon’s sidekick in AFLAC commercials is Saban
“The face of college football is Kirby Smart”
Which takes multiple tv screens to fit in. Seriously needs to lose weight. He’s going to end up looking like Fulmer.
Built By Bama Kirby may very well be the face of college football someday, but not today. He is definitely headed that direction, but until Saban steps away he is the unrivaled face of college football.
“Built By Bama Kirby ”
LOL Kirby saved many games for Saban. Now, Saban can’t even field an ok defense.
Jumping to conclusions. I stopped reading this article halfway through.
The face of college is Nick Saban and the face of the NFL is Patrick Mahomes.
So what if
Ohio State made the field goal?
What if Bama wide receivers did not get hurt?
What if Podlesny has not missed two field goals against OSU?
What if Georgia had Adam Anderson and a full-strength George Pickens?
See? The What If game cuts both ways.
WTH is a sliding door?
This is a silly premise, so I’ll play that game:
What if Napoleon had had a B52 bomber at his disposal for the Battle of Waterloo? ;)
i’m surprised this article hasn’t elicited more comments. i think it’s a great question to pose and very relevant considering the 5 yr anniversary and the varied paths of impact to multiple programs as a result of burrow’s selection/commitment to lsu.
– 1st, no way lsu wins a title in ’19 if there’s no burrow. that’s not a knock necessarily to burrow, but more credit to the two below-noted programs.
– 2nd, as much as the masses were growing tired of dominance of bama and clem, no program contributed more to those two programs falling of their perch than lsu. clearly neither program went off into an abyss, but both programs fell down a peg from where they had been from 2015 – 2018…which was an incredible 4-year run by both
– 3rd, i’ll definitely buy the suggestion that what burrow and lsu did in the ’19 sec championship forced cks to the conclusion that he had to make a major change. if it was simply bama that beat him in that game, maybe he doesn’t.
– 4th, haskins was certainly no slouch at osu, but i’ve always loved how much success burrow has had since his departure from osu and under meyer’s watch. maybe the best response was a collin cowherd interview with meyer years later and the topic coming up and cowherd had no idea that burrow had been there at the same time meyer was there. awkward moment for both on live air. had burrow stayed in that system, maybe he never develops into what he has become
it’s funny that cincinnati is brought up. getting burrow would have been a big coup, but again, who knows if he develops into what he is today had he simply gone there. regardless, cincinnati still made the playoff as the only g of 5 school…and that was without burrow.
Bama fell down a peg because of 2019 LSU? Did you forget Bama winning the National title in 2020? Bama then followed that up by winning the SEC title in 2021 while also making the National Championship game. Some of the things you UGA fans write make absolutely no sense. I know most of it is usually trolling but a lot of you actually believe this stuff.
I think people are knocking Bama more for lackluster play too many times the last couple of seasons. The offense is what kept them in games. Everyone would be wise to not underestimate them, but at the same time, you really don’t know what Alabama team is going to show up.
As long as Nick is there, Bama will always be dangerous and a perceived favorite to go to Atlanta. I think LSU is also a favorite to go to Atlanta each season. While I think the teams are fairly evenly matched, I do believe LSU has more momentum and stability..which is why I think they’ll beat Bama and return to Atlanta.
“I think people are knocking Bama more for lackluster play too many times the last couple of seasons. ”
Bama is most def on the decline.
For Bama, the negative effect was direct, but delayed. Burrow was a generational QB that demonstrated his chops leading Cincinnati to the Superbowl in his 2nd season in the NFL. His performance at LSU in 2019 cemented Saban’s decision to permanently lock the Tide into the pass happy, pinball style scoring offense that degraded his running game and defense via a noticeable reduction in developed talent at RB, OL and DL, especially big DTs that controlled the middle of the LOS, kept blockers off his LBs and took away the opposing QB’s ability to prolong pass plays by stepping up into the pocket.
Those deficiencies began to be clearly evident in 2022 and would’ve exploded to Tennessee/Oklahoma levels had Saban not corrected course by going to a more balanced offense via his newly hired OC.
My only question now is whether Saban has the players in the trenches now to make the full transition in one season. For sure, Alabama will run the ball more and play better D in 2023 than they have the last couple of seasons.
2019 LSU had nothing to do with Saban’s offensive philosophy change. Nothing at all.
It was actually the 2014/2015 Ole Miss games and the 2016 Deshaun Watson masterpiece in the Natty. You can ask Saban himself, as he has repeatedly brought up those games and that time period as when he started to overhaul the offense to a more modern approach. Do you not remember the 2018 Tua offense that was breaking all kinds of efficiency and scoring records at the time?
Yes, I remember. But, do you understand that once he committed to a pass dominant offense, Saban began to lose the power of his running game and the effectiveness of his defense. That missing emphasis on running the ball and shortening games was the basic difference between Bama and UGA the last two seasons. Smart kept running first, which kept his DLs fresh into the 4th quarter. Saban didn’t, which made his DLs gassed in the 4th quarter, which is where Bama lost all their games the last two years.
BTW, that balance between run and pass was the secret sauce in SOS’s Fun-N-Gun offense. Everyone remembers the passing game, but it was running and defense that won most big games for the Gators in the 90’s.
“2019 LSU had nothing to do with Saban’s offensive philosophy change. Nothing at all.”
Nope, Gus has everything to do with that. Saban used to cry and wet his depends over the Hurry Up offense. He even tried to get it banned.
Like Saban, you are one massive crybaby.
“It used to be that good defense beats good offense. Good defense doesn’t beat good offense anymore,” Saban told ESPN. Hmmm. Saban sold out to the dark side.
“Did you forget Bama winning the National title in 2020? ”
LOL everyone forgot about 2020. What a stupid year for sports. LA won a WS title off playing half a season, Bama won a title playing only 10 games.
And they beat a team that only had to play 6 regular season games
@standard. you need to relax. you’re so easily triggered. i don’t know how you took above as a slight to bama, but somehow your mind told you too. from 2015 – 2018, both bama and clemson, or at least one of them played in every nat’l champ game. that stretch by both schools was unmatched and deserving of praise. they didn’t in ’19…and if you really think that bama and clemson have been as dominant since then, you’re delusional. both programs have taken a step back. congrats on your 2020 title…that team was the best in the country. the teams in ’19, ’21 and ’22 were far from the best. yes, bama played in the nat’l champ in ’21….but that team was essentially carried by two players…two players that won’t be in crimson this year. buckle up.
What is it about the time period between Spring and regular season and make these guys dig so deep into their nose they get feces instead of a booger?
You win SDS post of the month sir.
Nothing left in their noses by now. So, they need to “dig deeper.”
Man some of you guys need to relax. This was just a guy playing what if. There is no right or wrong. It’s strictly fiction.
Burreaux did go to Baton Rouge, had a great time and learned how to play football. Really well.
poptiger…When Joe Burrow played for LSU it was the only time in my life I’ve really cheered for LSU to win. to me Joe’s play in Baton Rouge was inspirational. That team was loaded also.
2 thoughts.
First, what if he went to UF with Mullen instead of LSU or Cincy. That Florida team had NFL WRs in Hammond, Cleveland, Swain and Jefferson. It was Grantham’s best year as a DC as he got NFL job interviews afterwards.
2nd thought. LSU would not have beat UF that year without Burrow. That leaves UF with a 7 point loss to UGA. If UGA then win the SEC title there is potential for a 1-loss UF in the playoff.
So who wins if Burrow didn’t commit to LSU. Dan Mullen, because he would probably still be at UF. At the least, he would have had an extra year or two.
you’re missing the fact that if burrow wasn’t at lsu to play against uf, then he wouldn’t have been there to play against bama and uga as well.
uga wouldn’t have beaten bama in the sec champ, of whom would have been there if not for the loss to lsu (with burrow). uf would have still been left standing without a chair.
Omgosh, what if frogs grow wings and don’t bump their butts on the ground anymore. You can replay these games and a lot of the close ones will come out with a different winner even if the staff and rosters stayed exactly the same.
What if Joe Burrow had picked Cincinnati? When I spoke with Desmond Ridder I asked him why he chose Cindy instead of Louisville, his hometown. He told me bc Lamar Jackson was there and he wanted to play. So, had Burrow gone to Cindy my thinking is Desmond may have transferred to somewhere else so he could play and not carry a clipboard.
Come on Football Season…we need you badly. Roll Tide !
die hardest of Buckeye fans here. i remember that 2018 spring game very well. i thought Burrow played better than Haskins, but i was completely ok with either of them winning the job, because i thought either was a big upgrade from JT Barret. don’t get me wrong, Barret was a gamer, and never lost to xichigan, but Ohio State’s downfield passing game was not national championship worthy with him under center.
Haskins and Burrow were both great options, and i was sorry to see Joe leave, but i felt pretty good with Haskins. that feeling was justified as Haskins had the greatest season for a qb in big 10 history – better than drew breeze or tom brady. i still rooted for Burrow to do well.
if Burrow had transferred to cinci, Justin Fields still goes to Ohio State, and the undefeated Buckeyes are the 1 seed facing a shaky oklahoma team in the 2019 cfp. the question is, who is the 2 seed. clemson is still probably the third seed, and either bama or uga is likely the 2. the national championship game is Ohio State, with a healthy Justin Fields, and Garret Wilson and Chris Olave in their prime, vs probably bama(?). this isn’t the 2020 bama squad, and i think Fields, Chase Young and the Buckeyes bring the title home to Columbus.
i still like Burrow (not a bengals fan), but him going to lsu probably cost Ohio State a title.
Buckeye…I agree with your thought. All Joe needed in Columbus was a chance-to-play. He was the same Joe in Baton Rouge, but was surrounded by more talent at LSU… a totally-loaded team in 2019.