Report: Other SEC teams already considering poaching Ole Miss roster
If the NCAA investigators don’t think Ole Miss’s self-imposed bowl ban for the 2017 season goes far enough, they reserve the right to tack on an additional year of postseason sanctions.
That would allow players currently on the roster to transfer without penalty to a new school and play immediately, which could spell disaster for the Rebels.
According to Steven Godfrey of SB Nation, other SEC schools are doing their due diligence to make sure they’re ready to pounce in case of a worst-case scenario in Oxford:
Rival schools are not wasting time. When contacted by SB Nation Wednesday evening, coaches on two different SEC staffs confirmed their schools will evaluate the Rebels’ roster for potential talent, in case a two-year ban allowed transfers to play immediately.
Similar scenarios have happened to USC and Penn State in recent years, but neither of those schools play in the cutthroat SEC West.
If the Rebels have their roster pillaged by schools in the NCAA’s good graces, they could face several lean years as they try to rebuild a program that has reached new heights under now-embattled coach Hugh Freeze.
I’m not wishing ill for Ole Miss, but if they get two years and Patterson wants to go home, he would surely be an upgrade over Etling. Would probably cost us with some of our other QB’s though. I’d still take him if the opportunity was there.
He came to Ole Miss for reasons to stay close to his brother. He’s got the QB1 job with one of the best receiving corps in the SEC. I suspect he’s going to stay put.
Bye Bye ole miss go home now cheaters
How much of that receiving Corp is staying Bunker? Don’t say matter of fact like that, when you guy’s are about to get CREAMED by the NCAA.
You’re right. I don’t know for a fact that players will stay or leave. But at the same time, these receivers have one of the most promising QBs in the conference. Being banned of a bowl game doesn’t mean sh*t. If they win all the games in the regular season, not going to a bowl game won’t reflect badly on them. They’ll be praised for having won every game they were allowed to play in. It would suck to not be able to go to a bowl game but it’s not the player’s faults for being in this situation. A receiver leaving a QB like Patterson all for the chance of going to a bowl game would be foolish.
Um they were 5-7 last year why would anyone think they could win every game they played this year after the “penalty” signing class they had this year?
Ever wonder why Auburn did not get stepped on over Cam Newton sweepstakes? You boys scapegoated Pat Dye and Bowden, brought in Tuberville…and betrayed him flirting with Petrino…but avoided the NCAA somehow?
Exactly. He’s assuming the receivers stay for the QB, and the QB stays for the receivers. Not the likelihood that they all leave. Ole Miss sold most of these guys on the opportunity to play for Championships, not a pat on the back. Once they realize that sanctions mean no new good recruits, and no postseason, and then a few guys decide to transfer out, and even decent regular seasons become a huge doubt, it will be mass exodus. I get it though. Nobody want’s to believe the worst.
Every team has their chance to win every game. I never implied that Ole Miss WILL win every regular season game. I simply meant that they have the opportunity. IF Ole Miss won all 10 games in the regular season but were unable to go a bowl game, which, apparently is already happening, the stats will still be recorded. The video will still be there. The players’ skill will still be showcased. Making it or not making it to a bowl game because of good/bad performance means is one thing. But not being able to go to a bowl game because the NCAA won’t let them is a whole other thing. If a team won all 10 regular season games but was unable to go to a bowl game, no one is going to say “Well, that team sucks! They’re no good because they weren’t allowed to go to a bowl game.” No. Everyone is going to be focused on the fact that the team was good enough to win all their games. The only significance of a bowl game is bring in revenue for schools and to see match-ups b/n teams that never play each other. Berkley, I never placed any bets on Ole Miss winning all their games. However, like every team who competes, there’s the opportunity to win – no matter how bad they are.
“He came to Ole Miss for reasons to stay close to his brother. ” ROFL… Cracks me up how many people believe that bogus story.
His brother Sean leaving LSU for a spot at OM was all part of the deal for Shea. No job for Sean, No Shea…
Same as when they left AZ State for LSU, except Shea never officially committed to LSU because of Cameron chasing after Franks. A courtship that caused the patterson family to dump LSU for OM.
Shea would not have signed with anyone without Sean being given a job. It’s how they get around paying Shea directly.
I don’t even know why I stated what I believed the reason that brought Shea to OM. I do, however, stand by my next two sentences in my original post.
no argument from me there BB brutha man
Van Jefferson, come back home.
Well, his brother can come back to LSU, too. I don’t expect that receiving Corp will remain intact, although it’s not as if LSU doesn’t have plenty of talented WRs as well.
Or RBs.
Or O-Line.
Or a defense to get him back on the field.
Or a team that will get to play in a bowl game.
Patterson is there to stay until draft day. LSU has to develop a QB system, or ya’ll will lose them every year. I wish MS had the high school system to get these guys ready, but we are ready every year to get them from LA.
Patterson only went to Ole Miss because they hired his brother. They hired his brother to get Shea. Just more questionable hiring and recruiting. If Patterson wants to spend his career never playing in a bowl game, that would be his call. If Ole Miss gets a second year tacked on, he may jump ship. It may not be LSU, but he would still be wise to look around. Ole Miss is a dead program walking right now.
And just where did they hire his brother away from? That’s right, he was at LSU. Hard to point fingers when you tried to do the exact same thing (and for the record, there is nothing in NCAA regulations about hiring his brother).
2nd2-0
you are correct. LSU had him, then Cameron lost him by getting all googly eyed over Franks.
It’s not illegal now to hire family members to get a recruit, but soon will be.
I’m hoping that OM gets the minimum abuse, not counting on it though.
Personally I’d rather Patterson stay where he is, or go somewhere else, like Michigan… LSU will be fine without him.
Then he could play for a fat Cajun who can’t be understood when he talks.
Aren’t you the brave one
I have to believe one of the two programs is State. The other one is probably LSU but then again, Coach O and Freeze are friends, apparently.
Freeze will probably get fired if the second year of probation is issued. No friendship issues then. And yes, those are the two closest programs to Ole Miss, and LSU has several scholarships available.
I’d bet every SEC team is looking at the OM roster, just a couple have admitted to it.
Yep! I do wish the SEC would stand together and leave the OM program alone on this point. The only exceptoon is that I like it when kids stay home. If a kid from another state wants to go this his state U it makes sense.
It is messy to take kids from a burning ship…
agreed
Freeze can come to LSU as an analyst to rehab his image. When Canada moves on in a couple years, he can use right into the OC spot.
#shadowstaff
Everyone knows the minefield is bigger louder and more destructive. But how many will they dig up and show off. Nightmare…. You are the coach of a D1 program and one of your players announces during the NFL draft that you are dirty. Could it get any worse ? Yes, you could be dirty in lots of different ways. The whole dark mess begs to have daylight on it.
I have an extremely bad feeling that Ole Miss will end up with worse sanctions than Baylor…
Baylor deserves the death penalty, but I just have a feeling Ole Miss will basically get the same thing, just not called the “death penalty.”
I hope I’m wrong, but a a potential 2+ year bowl ban is devesating in the SEC. and god knows people are licking their chops to dig up all the dirt they can.
We have all made fun of the pay to play at Ole Miss but this situation is not funny anymore.
I can not believe that Ole Miss has not asked Freeze to step down
Freeze must have a lot of dirt on the AD and Ole Miss administration
OM admin, coaches and boosters believe they are invincible. This was glaringly apparent in the past, going so far as to lie about what was in the first NOA just before signing day last year, among other hard to believe acts. I think they obviously believe they can keep fighting, dodge the head coach misconduct and institutional control allegations, get a one year bowl ban and move forward.
That attitude will spell disaster. On the other hand, they can’t fire freeze “for cause” to avoid a hefty buyout before the COI hands down punishment, or the “cause” will be taken as evidence in support of the allegations. They can’t axe Freeze now and simultaneously continue to play the “few dirty boosters” game they are playing. They have to pick one, seems they have.
IMO, they should nuke current program including bjork and freeze now, and beg for leniency from COI. They would probably get it.
UK…Basketball…are you sure you want to jump in on this? Calapari would not win ten games a year if Bball had a max signing limit in place every year like Football and the 25/85 rule.
I am looking forward to Ole Miss coming to Lexington next season
Any particular reason why? Is there a new found rivalry you’ve discovered with us?
Bunker
Because Ole Miss will be a W
You’ve failed to remember that despite Ole Miss’ trouble with the NCAA, the nation’s 5th, 17th, and 15th ranked recruiting classes remain, and have only improved. I’m pretty sure we’re going to remind you that Kentucky should stick to basketball. See you on the field.
I know some good Ole Miss people, but the way they seem to have such a hard time even believing what was happening………………….. The last two coaches at Ole Miss couldn’t put two sentences together without religious terminology in them. Some super religious people can’t look at things realistically. They simply “believe”. I think that this type of thinking might be part of Ole Miss’s problem in this. I have talked to Ole Miss people who are sincerely dumbfounded that this happened. I feel sure they will blame Miss State (true or not) since they will need as scapegoat to avoid facing reality. I guess we will see.
One more thing I would like to add to my other statement. I;m not trying to put down religion but these are facts. Some hyper-religious people have difficulty seeing things which contradict what they believe. Some REFUSE to believe anything which doesn’t fit what they want to believe. I think this is the basis of the statement about them thinking they are invincible. They simply refuse to accept that what THEY are doing is cheating. After all their motives are pure to them.
Truth be told, we are the same people. Nothing is different between the schools, everything that we hold as values stands at the other place. Religion is a tricky subject, we must stand in front of God or behind him.
Now the truth is coming out on how the vaulted to the top so quickly and unexpectedly. Make sure these guys take a drug test too before bringing them onto another team.
it’s Ole Miss that’s in trouble, you are obviously confusing them with aladama.. ;)
It may be better for those teams to look at their own programs and make sure they are conforming to NCAA standards or the whole SEC could go down. With the NCAA offering immunity and players now talking, there may be much more on the horizon. Up till now, there has been a resistance to mutually assured destruction. It sounds as if the buttons are now being pushed to allow it to happen. If there are any Ole Miss players wishing to leave, they’ll most likely go to other conferences. The SEC could blow up.
No other SEC schools are even under investigation, so I think the conference is safe for now.
You think the SEC is the only conference that has teams that pay players? It happens Everywhere.
Freeze is gone. But it won’t prevent a 2 year ban.
Shea we know how you want to be Johnny Football so bad, come to A&M. We welcome you with open arms brother!
Why would he bother? He’d just transfer out a year later, like all your other big-name quarterbacks SINCE Manziel.
Sumlin should have been fired after last season, and things aren’t going to be any different there in 2017.
Bama has had more QB transfers than we have. Chill , and why would he go to LSU? To beat an under-coached A&M every year (*slow clap for your great feat), come up 3 points short to Bama every year, lose to Ole Miss or Arky, and then be told at the start of every season, “LSU is a darkhorse national championship contender”? lol This is fun….Oh and Ole Mi$$, what can I say about Ole Mi$$ that hasn’t already been said about Enron, SMU, and dumpster fires? lol FOH bro
lmao, if your reason to scratch LSU off the list is beating bama, then he better be transferring to the FCS… no one has beaten Bama with any regularity this decade. In fact, ditto for everything else you just listed. Sure, some of those things describe LSU, but they could describe literally every other team in the West…. except for the part about being a NC contender. LSU hasn’t made it back in 6 seasons, but there is a reason why everyone labels them this way. Unlike aTm, our 8 win seasons are few and far between…. and they are the low mark. Saying it isn’t a big deal to whip aTm every year isn’t exactly a resounding argument for him to become an aggie lol. Why join LSU? because its a superior program that would play him immediately. Because he would be playing with more NFL talent than anyone in the SEC besides Bama. —- btw, maybe the team has offensive woes that are the result of “undercoaching”, but that sure isn’t an excuse for the defense. Chief is a genius and fielded fantastic D’s in Knoxville and Baton Rouge. That’s a talent/culture/something else problem on that side of the ball.
Superior program? But will play a sophmore QB right away? How many superior programs have little QB depth? And no don’t make the Jalen Hurts arguement bc Bama could have made any number of those QB’s successful. Maybe you need to provide your definiton of superior…. If it equates to finishing one spot above A&M every year, losing to Arky and/or Ole Miss then yes, you are correct. Playing with more NFL talent than anyone in the SEC? Nice to know you do the least with the “most”. You sound like a tu t-shirt fan with that horrible point. Lastly, if you don’t think we have talent on the defensive side of the ball then you are on crack or don’t know our roster. I’m going to go with the latter. Obviously my original post was a joke; we all know that a qb(or the two greatest Ags of all time- JFB & Myles Garrett) can’t save us. With recent QB development at LSU, he wouldn’t save ya’ll either. lol
plenty of superior programs have little QB depth. You say don’t make the Hurts argument, but thats the point! lol its a superior program if they can be successful without a superior qb. Bama fits the bill obviously. LSU does too. Since 2000, we’ve appeared in 3 national championship games, won two, won the SEC 4 times, and won the West 6 times. With what great QB? we’ve never really had one. That’s the point. The other 22 guys are what makes it work. And while I do think LSU is a top 10 program in the country, what I originally meant when I said “superior” was superior to aTm. Which is undeniable. I graduated from LSU in 2014, so a t-shirt fan I am not. I was there just in time to see us beat aTm the last 5 years in a row. And I don’t have the aTm roster memorized, but I’ve watched the defense suck against SEC competition year in and out. More to my point, I’ve watched Chavis coach championship caliber defenses at Tennessee and LSU, so my point stands…. if the talent is “undercoached”, it seems highly unlikely its the fault of John Chavis.
Since 2000? What about the 90’s when we made ya’ll cancel the home and home? Lol ya’ll have been bad the entire time we’ve been in the SEC. That’s my point. Not some brief history lesson on what ya’ll used to be…. Are those players/coaches helping ya’ll win? Maybe they are helping ya’ll lose, with all that “superiority”. LSU is one rung above A&M. The dynamics have changed. You didn’t graduate from LSU. You t-shirt fans have the same arguments; it always involves a historical reference and delusion. Winning 8 games a year is not superior. It’s mediocre at best. “I don’t have the aTm roster memorized…if the talent is “undercoached”, it seems highly unlikely its the fault of John Chavis.” If you don’t know the roster, how do you know it’s lacking talent or is/isn’t under coached? I never blamed Chavis for our team being under coached ( but he’s part of the reason); you came up with that narrative all by yourself, just like when you claimed to have graduated from LSU. It looks like you didn’t even pass English 103. You can’t even make a decent argument without tripping over your words. smh
LOL man you kill me. let me get this right. You criticize me bringing up a “history lesson” right after you counter my argument with even more dated material? and btw, since 2000 is the most recent 17 years we have to go on, it isn’t exactly “living in the past” or anything…. its the most recent history we have. Boy, if I’m bad at english, I wonder how we should describe your math? … averaging 8 wins a year? lmao! LSU has failed to win 9 games exactly 5 times since 2000. 2 of those seasons we didn’t even play a full schedule. Do the math. We average 9.9 wins a season in that span. Since you didn’t like my use of history in the previous post, we can just count the Les Miles era if you want. Including this year and last (during which we played 1 less game than aTm), we STILL average exactly 10 wins a year in the Miles era. I repeat: 8 wins is the absolute WORST we could achieve this century. aTm has managed to achieve that mark for 3 years straight. You aren’t a “rung below us”. You aren’t on the same ladder. We’ve been bad since you guys joined the SEC? give me a break. Those former players aren’t helping us win now, they helped us BEAT YOU 6 STRAIGHT TIMES while wearing the uniform. 6. STRAIGHT. you even attempting to have this conversation would be like me convincing an Alabama fan they were the same caliber as LSU. Me saying I don’t have the roster memorized means exactly that. I don’t know every player on the team. I know enough. I know Daeshon Hall is a draft prospect who is going to play in the NFL. I know Armani Watts is supposed to be a great safety. I know Daylon Mack is expected to be a great interior lineman. If they’re all so talented, whats the problem? Like I said, Chavis has developed great (not good…. great) defenses at two other SEC schools. So I know he can’t be blamed for not developing the talent. It must be the talent or the program or the other coaches. This is a valid line of reason. You can dispute my college education, divert attention away from your subpar argument and subpar football team, and insult my character all you want. I might be confident that LSU is a better program than aTm, but your comments demonstrate a smug, delusional attitude regarding not only football, but culture in general that seems to pervade the aggie fanbase more so than other programs its caliber… except maybe Ole Miss lol. I can at least view them as long time neighbor and rival. Go back to the big 12.
“Go back to the big 12” why so ya’ll could lose more games a year??? FOH t-shirt troll!
Why? So he can suffer with you guys during your famous month of November? I’m sure he’d pass on that faster than a rabbit gets f*cked.
either way, he can figure to lose to LSU many years in a row. Why not just come home to Louisiana? lol this is fun….. but in all seriousness, wish it weren’t happening. This is bad for the West, the SEC, the NCAA. Hope it doesn’t lead to more investigations and Ole Miss rebounds quickly. Football is more fun when its evenly balanced. Who would enjoy beating up on an Ole Miss team with a few scholarship athletes remaining?
The investigations have already begun. Ole Miss is apparently forcing Mississippi State between a rock and a hard place in Leo Lewis.
Ask Seven when Kentucky was ‘good’?
Ole Miss hasn’t been consistently good since Johnny Vaught was coach.
What is going on now is fraud and pay to play cheating.
You are silly
Ya know, before there was any proof that Ole Miss was paying players, accusing them of paying players was kind of a jab… But now that it’s been proven, it’s not really much of a jab anymore – it’s out in the open. You’re going to have to drop the card you’ve been playing for the last year and get creative if you want to insult someone.
Reb
You argue with everyone on here
But what gets me is you make excuses for the pay to play and you bury your head in the sand you believe in going into the ghetto with a bag full of money if it means Ole Miss wins
Oh, really? How interesting! Please share the excuses I’ve made. This ought to be good. Be sure to use references I’VE made, not any excuses Ole Miss has made.
Also, make sure you use pronouns correctly. You like to use ‘you’ a lot when talking about someone/something completely different. Before making an even bigger fool of yourself, you should just pull your bottom lip over your head and swallow.