
First and 10: 'It validates your plan.' Why everybody owes Billy Napier an apology
1. I don’t want to get on a soapbox, but …
This wasn’t just a victory for Billy Napier. This was a victory for every coach in college football.
This was a victory for every university president bullied into a fat, guaranteed contract to hire a coach — then pressured into firing the same coach 18 months later by unreasonable big-money boosters and pitchfork toting social media dorks.
Florida’s win over Tennessee did so much more than give Napier, the embattled Gators coach, some breathing room from the lunatic fringe outside the arena. It brought some sensibility to an unstable and unreasonable college football world.
The win-now or else mantra that has overtaken the sport has subsided. Patience has replaced panic.
For a week, anyway.
“It validates your plan,” Napier said after Florida’s win over Tennessee. “It validates what you’re selling.”
Before we go further, I want to make something clear: This isn’t about declaring a coach didn’t have a team ready to play, or is struggling in his first 2 seasons like any other at the school in years.
This isn’t about questioning whether he’s the right guy to coach quarterbacks or call plays. Or if his scheme fits personnel.
This is about declaring that a coach needs a full allotment of time to build and develop a roster and a culture. I still have numerous questions about Napier as a QBs coach and play-caller, but it doesn’t mean Florida should throw $31 million at him and force him to walk after this season.
This is about those decision-makers — university presidents and athletic directors — taking back the power to hire and fire coaches from fat cat boosters pushed into reckless decisions by the lunacy of Twitter. Or X. Or whatever message board they slither in and out of.
This Florida win was for Napier, and for the administrations and coaches at Oklahoma (Brent Venables) and Wisconsin (Luke Fickell) and Nebraska (Matt Rhule) and Notre Dame (Marcus Freeman) and Auburn (Hugh Freeze). All of whom have been on the hot seat since their first loss — or in Freeze’s case, Day 1 because it’s Auburn.
Florida AD Scott Stricklin is rational and patient. He understands what it takes to build something long-term.
He also knows — like all other athletic directors — what happens when bad turns to ugly and boosters with their names on university buildings say fire the coach with my money — or you won’t get more of my money.
That’s a difficult train to stop, especially with those same boosters being told over and over that you, too, can be like Colorado (more on that later) if you just fire the whole dang lot of ’em.
Fortunately for Stricklin and Napier, Gators star center Kingsley Eguakun played for the 1st time this season against Tennessee. And guard Micah Mazzccua is finally healthy.
And the Gators, despite what they showed against Utah, could finally do what they do best for the first time this season. They ran the ball, and then ran it some more.
They ran the ball so effectively (43 carries, 183 yards, 3 TDs), they all but eliminated pressure on QB Graham Mertz to make plays in the pass game. That’s when you get the best version of Mertz: When he can throw off play-action that slows pass rush and forces the back 7 to read run before dropping in coverage.
Against Utah, Florida ran the ball 21 times and threw it 44. Against the Vols, it was nearly 180 degrees different: 43 rushes, 24 throws.
The Florida offensive line was a mess against Utah, full of players who were injured or returning from injury, young guys playing their first snaps, and everyone contributing to false starts and procedure penalties.
They had 13 yards on 21 carries against the Utes — and somehow only lost by 13 points.
It doesn’t go right all the time, and it’s OK to be upset and question calls and decisions, and scheme and processes. But the message to those with wealth and power is simple: There’s real value in patience and loyalty if you believe in your guy.
“Obviously, we have a lot of work left to do,” Napier said. “Success is a dirty process, and ultimately, it’s rewarding.”
If you have the patience to see it through.
2. The Other Guy theory
Napier arrived at a Florida program that was so depleted structurally, he had to convince Stricklin to spend millions — that’s right, millions — to build a recruiting division.
Staffers, video equipment, and a commitment to brick and mortar space just to keep up with the millions being spent at Georgia and Alabama and LSU and Texas A&M — and just about everywhere in the SEC, and blue-blood programs outside the SEC infiltrating the state of Florida.
It will take time to rebuild and strengthen recruiting relationships, he stressed to Stricklin — the very things that lagged under Jim McElwain and Dan Mullen and forced their firings and the eventual hiring of Napier.
Then Brian Kelly gets hot in Year 1 at LSU, beats Alabama and reaches the SEC Championship Game. Then Lincoln Riley gets hot in Year 1 at USC, and the Trojans go from a 4-win team to a win from the Playoff.
Sources told Saturday Down South that both of those coaches had interest in the Florida job, and reached out through intermediaries to gauge interest. Stricklin never veered from Napier — but Kelly and Riley are still there, still winning.
Still the shiny silver dollar Florida boosters (and the looney social media mob) see what they could’ve had but didn’t get. This, of course, gins up the system.
So does Deion Sanders, who has 81 new scholarship players at Colorado, and has turned victories over a gutted TCU team, a gutted Nebraska program and a bad rival (Colorado State) into a 60 Minutes segment Sunday night entitled — I swear, I’m not making this up — “the most exciting college football program today.”
ESPN’s telecast of the Colorado-Colorado State game — an enjoyable double overtime game that lasted well into Sunday morning and would’ve been an afterthought any other year — may as well have been a 3-hour recruiting show for Prime and the Buffs.
Big-money boosters see this, and it skews reality. You are not consistently winning in the SEC unless the main focus of roster building is organically through high school recruits — supplemented by a handful of college portal players of impact.
Winning now is rare — and depends on the state of the program you’ve inherited — and typically isn’t happening if your chosen course of action is building long-term.
But those words aren’t easy to hear for the lunatic fringe.
3. The art of validation, The Epilogue
In no uncertain order, Florida’s win over Tennessee:
— Calmed a rough (and getting rougher) sea of discontent of those who give money to the university, and to Florida Victorious, the collective that funds NIL deals for players.
— Gave fans (and more important, class of 2024 recruits) something to hold onto. Real, tangible evidence that what Napier is doing in Gainesville can lead to winning games. It was his first victory over Florida’s biggest rivals (Georgia, Florida State, Tennessee, LSU) in 5 games.
If you want to keep that top 3 recruiting class together, you better start winning games that matter. And you better have Florida Victorious on board, too.
— Lastly, and most important, it helped the current roster, full of freshmen and sophomores, see what happens when everyone does his job. When preparation leads to execution.
When you’re building and creating a culture of winning, it’s not going to happen week after week. But the idea and reality that it can and does happen is critical.
Players are visual learners; they digest and comprehend by seeing. You can preach all you want about how this or that will win games, but it only connects when they see it on the field.
“The most important thing is the players in that locker room. It galvanizes your team a little bit,” Napier said. “We ask a lot of our players, and when you’re not getting a return on your investment, you take your money and go somewhere else.”
Or the coach gets fired, and takes his $31 million and walks — and the next to fail is loaded in the barrel. Take your pick.
Patience or panic.
4. The QB decision
I still can’t get over this dynamic: The greatest coach in college football history knew his team was preparing for 2023 with limited experience at the most important position on the field, and gave the whole smash — quarterbacks coach, offensive coordinator, play caller — to a 20-something whose biggest obstacles at Notre Dame were scheming 4 or 5 ACC games a year.
It’s mind-boggling.
But here we are, with the Alabama dynasty teetering, and coach Nick Saban looking at his offense and seeing overmatched OC Tommy Rees and 3 average quarterbacks staring back at him.
Now what? Alabama doesn’t have a choice but to return to Jalen Milroe this week in the SEC opener against Ole Miss. Even if Milroe was seen as the weak link by the staff in the loss to Texas — when he clearly wasn’t.
Saban told Milroe last week they were going with backup Tyler Buchner against USF, and Milroe didn’t take it well.
Saban: “Everybody has the opportunity to respond in the right way when things don’t go exactly like you want them to, and we played the guys that practiced the best all week long.”
Look, we’ve reached damage control right now. The Alabama staff can hold on to hurt feelings and the “standard” — or suck it up and start Milroe.
Because Buchner and Ty Simpson aren’t beating Ole Miss. With Milroe — and a tweaked scheme that includes more QB run and zone-read QB run options — Alabama can get right again.
5. The Weekly 5
Five games against the spread.
- Auburn (+7.5) at Texas A&M
- Ole Miss (+7) at Alabama
- Arkansas (+17.5) at LSU
- Mississippi State at South Carolina (-4.5)
- Kentucky (-13.5) at Vanderbilt
Last week: 3-2.
Season: 10-5.
6. You tape is your resume
An NFL scout analyzes a draft-eligible SEC player. This week: Missouri LB Ty’Ron Hopper.
“He’s a talented guy. Athletic, deceptively strong hands and he can run as well as any linebacker in (college football). He just needs reps. He’s still a work in progress, but his skills absolutely translate here. He can run and cover, and he’s long and can locate the ball in the air. He fills the gap and can wrap up. Not really a natural pass rusher, but with his athleticism and length, that’s coachable.”
7. Powered Up
This week’s Power Poll, and 1 big thing: Eyes wide open.
1. LSU: Harold Perkins is back rushing the quarterback. Let’s also not underestimate the dismantling of a solid Mississippi State defense — and how much better QB Jayden Daniels is throwing the ball.
2. Georgia: I have real concerns about pass protection. Can (will?) the offensive line be bullied by the suddenly strong SEC East defenses (Kentucky, Missouri, Florida), and Auburn and Ole Miss?
3. Ole Miss: Time for a signature win, a defining moment under coach Lane Kiffin where Ole Miss becomes more than a fun show. This is the week at Alabama.
4. Alabama: Four TDs in the past 2 games negated by penalty. The message is not being coached, getting lost in transition — or not being heard. As big a red flag as we’ve seen with Saban at Alabama.
5. Texas A&M: Conner Weigman is an elite quarterback. We’ll find out this week against Auburn if Texas A&M will take advantage of it — or stumble through another underachieving season.
6. Kentucky: Wildcats look bored, and it won’t get much better this week at Vanderbilt. We’ll know everything in 2 weeks when Florida arrives.
7. Florida: Gators still lack outside (and deep) threats at wide receiver. If/when teams stop the run, the pass game will be limited.
8. Missouri: A breakout, signature win for (in no particular order) coach Eli Drinkwitz, QB Brady Cook and WR Luther Burden III. Can the Tigers build on it?
9. Tennessee: This isn’t a Joe Milton III problem. This is a protection problem. The offensive line is vulnerable in pass protection in the middle 3.
10. Auburn: The pass game has been an adventure nearly every snap against 3 overmatched teams. Now, the competition gets serious: at Texas A&M, Georgia, at LSU, Ole Miss.
11. Arkansas: The operation isn’t smooth on either side of the ball, and special teams. For every big play (punt return for TD), there are negating mistakes (10-yard punt).
12. South Carolina: How much longer can elite QB Spencer Rattler (yes, he’s elite) survive behind an offensive line that struggles with basic pass protections?
13. Mississippi State: Don’t panic on defense. Bulldogs just played the best offense in the SEC — and the defense got no help from an offense that couldn’t stay on the field.
14. Vanderbilt: No pass rush, and a young secondary. There will be many more busted big plays over the remainder of the season.
8. Ask and you shall receive
Matt: You can’t sit there and tell me this Georgia team can win the national title. Why does everyone just assume this season will be the same as the last 2? — Victor Franklin, Atlanta.
Victor:
We’re 3 games into a different player at the most important position on the field, and some significant changes on both lines of scrimmage and the secondary. It takes time, and you can’t expect this to be plug-and-play.
I’d be shocked if Georgia didn’t improve on the defensive front, and for young blue-chip players moving into roles (and a couple experienced upperclassmen) to start impacting games like the previous seasons.
The bigger issue is the offensive line. Can they get better? Absolutely. But at some point, you are who you are on the o-line — you’re not subbing players and keeping guys fresh and overwhelming people. It’s typically your starting 5, and away you go.
I’m not buying (at least, not yet) what Georgia has out there, as far as pass protection. In the first test of the season, it didn’t look like a solid, confident and smooth operation. The guards and tackles missed some pass offs on stunts and twists, and South Carolina affected the quarterback all along the front.
The Gamecocks won’t be the best front Georgia sees by a long way. You want to beat Georgia (or any team, for that matter)? Make the quarterback uncomfortable, and force quick and poor decisions.
QB Carson Beck was solid, but the ball isn’t going down the field (7.7 yards per attempt) — and won’t in SEC games until Georgia figures out pass protection.
9. Numbers
71.3. We’re 3 games into the season, and 1 thing is clear: South Carolina QB Spencer Rattler is playing at a level that 3 years ago had NFL scouts declaring him a Day 1 NFL Draft pick.
His completion percentage is way up (71.3), despite playing behind the worst offensive line in the SEC. He only completed 52% of his passes against Georgia, but did so after being constantly harassed.
One NFL scout I spoke to after the game said the growth from the middle of 2022 is dramatic.
“He looks really comfortable, and what I really like is he’s not panicking, not pointing fingers,” the scout said. “In the past, he’d drop his head, and his body language was horrible. He’s just going to the next play now, just making the next throw. His arm talent has never been in question, and his decision-making and accuracy are much better. The protection is clearly a problem. You put him behind some of the better offensive lines in that league, and you’d see a statistically high level of play.”
10. Quote to note
Missouri coach Eli Drinkwitz: “It pissed me off when we booed our starting quarterback to start the game. That pissed me off. And (Brady Cook) went out there and played his butt off for this university and this team. You want to boo me, fine. You don’t boo the starting quarterback. It’s bullcrap. I’ll say it again, should never happen.”
Did Hayes just cast himself as a “social media dork”? Introspection is a good thing.
Wadeless, you beat me to it.
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Just another Matt Haze farticle.
I think Saban should fire Rees and hire Hayes to run his offense. Clearly, he has a plan to beat Ole Miss and Rees is clueless… right?
Self-awareness is a good first step.
“This wasn’t just a victory for Billy Napier. This was a victory for every coach in college football.”
What?
That and most of those who have big NIL money also have handlers who are constantly in their ears telling them to take it easy and don’t do anything that might jeopardize their possible draft status.
Yep, that sounds right.
Even Josh Heupel won in this loss
Especially Josh
Heupel!
Guys stop. You’re going to get you know who started with the “we lost on purpose” bs
I’m wondering if NIL is causing players to be lazy. There is no excuse for Bama (every player is a 4/5 star) to be that lazy on all fronts.
There are some rough rumors coming out of Tuscaloosa. The upset Milroe story apparently has legs; now there is a rumor about some black players tanking since the white qb’s were starting over Milroe. I don’t want to believe the latter – heck, there were two new players on the oline and the most experienced player didn’t start or play at all – but the former seemed to work itself out since Milroe was seen celebrating with Simpson after the race Bama TD at the end of the game.
This is starting out as a long, strange trip of a season…and I’m here for it. I love college football and the chaos that occurs every season as predictions get thrown out the window and new heros (and zeros) arise from nowhere.
RTR!!!
And congrats to Florida and Billy Napier. I don’t mind telling you I’ve had to talk my stepdaughter off a ledge several times while florida struggled. I really hope Napier doesn’t sink roots too deep in the swamp – would love to see him follow CNS at Bama in a few years.
Rare* not race
Wouldn’t most coaches have just taken a knee at the end of the game like that? Was it 4th down or something?
Definitely not a knee in a one score game. Field goal would have been fine, but he chose to let the offensive line feel good about something and push in a TD.
I can go either way, but no way taking a knee was an option.
I can understand in a way doing that. Just felt like rubbing salt in in a game you already had in the bag with just seconds to go.
Granted, it’s on the opponent to stop that, but in that instance I expected better of Saban. He never did that at LSU. He just knelt the ball when the game was in hand and seconds to go.
“now there is a rumor about some black players tanking since the white qb’s were starting over Milroe. ”
Seriously?
It’s out there in chat rooms. Not saying I believe it, but more than one “source with inside knowledge” claims this is a fact.
“It’s out there in chat rooms. ”
Ok so not real then.
The depth of Napier’s roots at UF will depend on his level of success between now and the end of the 2025 season. If he’s able to take the Gators to the top of the SEC, UF will make sure his roots are very deep.
And soft imo, going from getting paid the big bucks only to learn it takes getting yelled at on the field and it ain’t easy.
Halfway through the season, Gator nation will want to fire Sun Belt Billy again.
Fans are fickle. We can’t help ourselves. That includes the boosters. That why the right AD is so important.
No, not Gator Nation, we never entertained that thought. The social media dork mob, the SDS writers and silly outliers like gagaunderthelake may ask for that after the next loss, but the rest of us won’t
This is what’s going to happen…
another team is going to shut Florida’s run game down just like Oregon State did and just like Utah did…
and Florida is going to lose to that team just like they lost to Oregon State and just like they lost to Utah…
and what BBSD said will echo over the muddy water of the swamp once again.
And monkeys will fly out of your arse
I would like to see Billy succeed…
for a long time Florida was hunky-dory and my ice cream always seems to taste better if they are competent.
Maybe Ben and Jerry will create some tasty vanilla “monkeys will fly out of your arse if you eat this” ice cream to go with Billy’s vanilla coaching style, then after a big Las Vegas bowl of that what you said would happen would happen.
TrueSh!t, stick it deep.
I wish Billy had a play in his playbook that would go deep…
Saturday was a wake-up call for Georgia. We shall see if they actually wake up.
UGA definitely woke up in the 2nd half of the game. The UGA that played in the 2nd half was as dominant as any team UGA has put on the field over the last two seasons.
To me the big question – how can UGA be such different teams on one day, in a single game?
Got to find a dependable field goal kicker asap. Missing high probability FG kicks is going cost UGA a game soon if not corrected.
The O-line was the biggest variable between the 1st and 2nd halves of the game. Seems when Mims went down, Truss moved to RT and Fairchild game in as LG the O-line woke up and started dominating the USCar defensive front. The running play where Cash Jones scored – Truss and Ratledge were dominating their defenders. Pass blocking was also much better in the 2nd half.
“To me the big question – how can UGA be such different teams on one day, in a single game?”
i think the team is still finding its footing…or maybe more accurately, beck has needed some time to settle in. i don’t fault beck, he has a total of 3 starts and saturday was his first real start of pending consequence. considering what we’ve seen to date, i’d expect some bumps from him in his first road start at auburn as well.
uga may have truly benefited from not having an early ooc game against a legit team this year.
“To me the big question – how can UGA be such different teams on one day, in a single game?”
The games are still played by 18-22 year old kids. I think a more appropriate question is how UGA was able to avoid that for so long, or at least how they were able to avoid having negative consequences from that type of let down for so long. Kirby will have them ready when playoff time comes around, but the players just need to keep themselves from having a significant letdown at the wrong moment. With their SOS and how down (from its usual level) the SEC looks at the moment, they won’t have any margin for a loss.
“18-22 year old kids.”
At the age of 18 you are an adult. They aren’t kids.
I know this is hard for you to understand, because you started shaving last week and live with your mom, but 50 year-old men refer to 20 year-olds as kids.
Because although some teens they are legally adults, they are usually more immature than older adults.
Some of them even spend their entire day online, constantly accusing anonymous strangers of having herpes.
You’ll understand this in about 30 years or so.
“but 50 year-old men refer to 20 year-olds as kids.”
Look retard, 18 year olds can vote and join the military. If they commit a crime, they are tried as adults.
STFU.
Don’t worry Gig’em…
when it comes to the SEC and the “Selection” Committee who does the selecting, the margin will be be wide enough for Georgia to get an invitation.
Ron, you can argue if they’re kids or legal adults all day, but anyone with common sense knows 18-22 year old males away from home for the 1st time in their life aren’t anywhere near as mature as older adults. I call em kids because I have kids older than these players. The reason our Country won’t allow them to purchase alcohol is supposedly because they’re kids still. The age thing is arguable, the maturity level really isnt.
“Ron, you can argue if they’re kids or legal adults all day, but anyone with common sense knows 18-22 year old males away from home for the 1st time in their life aren’t anywhere near as mature as older adults.”
Tell that to 18 year old Vietnam war vets killed in action.
Tell that to Iraq war vets that were killed in action.
The team that failed to get a first down TWICE in the last five minutes to cinch the game is “as dominant” as ever?
Yeah, I’m not so sure.
UGA outscored USCar 21 – 0 in the 2nd half (should have been 24 points.) Rattler was 6 of 24 with 2 INT’s in the second half. UGA held USCar to 23 yards total offense in the 3rd quarter and just over 100 yards total in the 2nd half.
Did you watch the 2nd half of the game?
I used to believe you never booed the players. That was when they were just students trying to make their way through college like the rest of us. Now they are paid, professional players. If fans aren’t getting their money’s worth, all is fair. Boo the coaches, boo the players…it doesn’t matter now.
I hate to agree with a barner, but your logic is unassailable.
Weagle, you are correct my friend.
“That was when they were just students trying to make their way through college like the rest of us.”
That was a long, long time ago.
In my opinion, Florida’s win over Tennessee was a function equally of things Florida did well and things Tennessee did poorly. Tennessee’s defense still isn’t good (though they shut down the Gator rushing attack in the 2nd half) and their offense is sorely missing the QB, WRs, and OL from last year. The atmosphere of the Swamp also definitely had an impact.
Easy to shut it down when we shut down passing in the second half. Hope it was because of injury and not playing not to lose.
Florida did what they needed to do to beat the Vols. Capitalized off a turnover exploited Tennessee’s deficiencies on defense and offense. But the part I’m most sore about how the refs impacted the game by bad calls, no calls, and even kicked the ball after they just spotted for play when Vols were in a hurry up on a 4th and 1 with a chance to cut it to 1 score to one touchdown.
For what it’s worth, the refs did not “allow substitutions” on that kicked ball play, as many Vols are whining about.
The Gators subbed when Milton walked 8 yards away from the line of scrimmage, towards the sideline, to get the play call. The Gators knew they had plenty of time to sub.
As the rules expert on the broadcast said, Florida substituted “at their own risk”.
Refs had blown a whistle stopping play. Both teams did not now what was going on, which is why Florida subbed. Totally affected the game and flow.
This is from someone who was there and sits in the 15th row and had it happen right in front of them. Everyone hurried up to the line and the ref spotted the ball. He then kicked it accidentally (probably because he was surrounded by over a dozen large men in full pads) and then squatted down to respot it. The sideline Judge on UF’s side misinterpreted this as the ref putting his hand on the ball to stop play because Tennessee had substituted (which they had not) but he then hand-waived the UF sideline that they COULD substitute and, relying on that, UF ran a couple guys on. This all happened in a span of about 5 seconds. It was a miscommunication between the refs on play stoppage in a chaotic situation. But it wasn’t a missed penalty – UF didn’t do anything wrong but follow the ref’s instructions. If you want to argue Tennessee should have been able to immediately snap the ball after it got respotted, that’s absolutely true. And they play would have been whatever it would have been (although Tennessee was 0-2 on their other fourth down tries in the game so it’s fair to say that it certainly wasn’t a gimme).
The refs didn’t beat you, UF did when you weren’t beating yourselves.
Matt Hayes, you waived the “down with Billy Napier” flag continuously. Was it because that’s what you believed or was it to get clicks????
Good post Whip, I thought the same thing
Lol
WTH CoJo??, i thought we were tight
now, when you say, “everybody owes Billy Napier an apology,” do you really think it’s accurate to say, ‘everybody,’ and that the majority typically share your contrived views?
also, if you’re now in the business of extending apologies, i think you’ll be here awhile
By everyone he means every SDS writer and gagaunderthelake
Yep. I never doubted and hope Napier moves to Tuscaloosa when the ? retires.
#1. Where are all the Tennessee people??
#2. Any team can lose at any time.
#3. FSU was LSUs wake up call, and now they’re out to prove they are or should be considered the best in the SEC. Of course, UGA will still have their say.
#4. Bama has serious problems.
Right now LSU is playing like the best team in the SEC in large part because Daniels is playing like the best QB in the SEC
“#1. Where are all the Tennessee people??”
In Tennessee.
For whatever reasons, SEC teams were very slow out of the gate. Several seem to still be finding themselves. A lot of that has to do with the OLines. LSU made changes after FSU and has been playing much better since. UF made changes to their line and they played much better. Some of that was guys getting healthy. Bama’s line still looks terrible. A good line can make a QB look a lot better because it gets the running game and play action working. UGA isn’t quite right there either, or wasn’t until the second half.
Spot on marine. Most sports writers and fans put too much stock in QBs they see play and not enough in the big uglies that protect the QBs’ backsides and pave the way for the RBs.
I mentioned several times before this season started that both the Gators and Tide would have OL issues early because of their lack of returning experience playing together. Must admit, I didn’t see LSU’s OL having the same early problems, but they did vs. FSU and seem to have them fixed now.
Tennessee appears to have some very serious OL issues that the Gator D exposed. Heupel would be well served working on those issues in practice than planning how to use his remaining timeouts when he’s down two scores with seconds left in the game.
Congrats on the win Gators!!! My Volunteers have a lot to clean up or its going to be a long season.
Geez-us H on a stick. The first 3 bullet points all on the SAME topic?
Back to J-school, rook.
FWIW, that is his approach in this article. He always spends the first three points on the same topic:
1. Soapbox but…
2. Elaboration..
3. Epilogue
If you look at his other “first and 10’s”, its the same model.
This is an editorial, there is nothing wrong with having three points on the same topic.
Congrats Florida. Hopefully this is a wake up call for the defense and O-line. The season isn’t over yet but we gotta clean stuff up if we wanna win 9 games this year. I just don’t have confidence in Joe but I don’t think he’s bad either. Why not start Nico next week? it wouldn’t hurt. I would much rather start Nico start next week so that he gets some playing time rather than throwing him into a sec game when joe either gets hurt or plays poorly.
You can’t risk getting him hurt when we don’t have another option for next year. Tennessee affectively only has 2 QBs on roster right now, he gets hurt you’re starting a true freshman next year. That is currently playing high school football right now. I don’t see Nico as an option this year unless you have no choice.
“…taking back the power to hire and fire coaches from fat cat boosters pushed into reckless decisions by the lunacy of Twitter. Or X. Or whatever message board they slither in and out of.”
As if you are not part of the problem. Message to Matt: THIS is not Sports Illustrated you’re “writing” for.
It validated that Tennessee is no where near as good as they were last year
Agreed….Florida should not being patting themselves on the back just yet….My Vols will end up outside the top 25 at the ned of the year as will Flordia
Kansas State is a signature win? Good one.
Well, K-State was ranked #15, and a middle of the pack SEC team beat them. So yeah, that would constitute a signature win for Drink. I’d also count the win over LSU during the pandemic year a signature win.
The clown little Mattie refers to the Lunatic Fringe? Which he and all these other alleged sportswriters for sds, who are all cheap shot artists who were attacked Napier last week, now do an about face & hop over the other side of the fence now. All are total losers
I guess my post didn’t post the first time?
Ok trying again.
1. It’s always weird in power rankings where undefeated teams are ranked below teams with losses. That LSU game was more about where MSU is and less about where LSU is. Moving away from the air raid looks like a mistake with Will Rogers at the helm. Long Live The Pirate King
2. Georgia’s offensive issues are personnel at this point. Darnell is being missed greatly. Although I have not enjoyed how Beck has played, as he has rushed through is progressions, some of it is because he coudln’t help it.
3. I get why Napier’s perceived hot seat has cooled because of this win, but I think it says more about Tenn and Heupel than Napier and Florida. TENN has rode Hendon Hooker and that Bama win to where they are, but without Hooker has not looked good.
4. Georgia has not looked great offensively for a whole game, but Steve Spurrier’s South Carolina would have won that game, and I stand on that.
5. EVERY body across America hasn’t looked good every game. Which makes sense considering that outside of Oregon, LSU, FSU, Michigan, Washington(?) there hasn’t been a lot of continuity especially at QB. I don’t see things leveling out until 6-7 games into the season.
Nothing wrong with anything you said there. Also, I’m hoping that nothing is seriously wrong with Jordan Travis for FSU. He’s what makes that engine roar offensively.
This piece is so dramatic.
Also, Freeze is not on the hot seat.
Maybe the Florida win was validation of the process. I like to think Tennessee planted this loss on purpose to keep him at Florida longer. Playing the long game.
Like the whole SEC worked together to get Jimbo his contract extension.
Long live Jimbo at A&M!!
May want to slow the roll on Billy just a bit. He’s won one game of real note – and we don’t know how great of a win this really is. Big losses against LSU, UGA and Florida State are headed his way with likely slip ups to a couple others. He seems to be coaching basic offense where all the other wizards are twenty points ahead. And when is he ever going to beat King Kirby? Answer: once or twice every ten years. And that’s not going to keep his job long term.
Thanks for your fortune telling, just like everyone was predicting a Tenn blowout win you come in with similar predictions.
Athenians are sooo smart and all-knowing
Feel free to go back and read my pre game posts but I had Florida by 2 scores. Tennessee was overhyped this year and Florida had a bad game vs Utah but I believe is better. I had them at number 2 in the East and took much cr@p from Vol fans over that during the talking season. The East will be decided in Jacksonville, as it should be.
Supradawg sorry to lump you in with Morons like UGAplaysD, of course not all Athenians are Morons. Thing is your fanbase has so many of that ilk that is easy to generalize. It is wrong, but easy. Will try to do better in the future
I was one of those moron Athenians that expected the Vols to run away with the game and for Napier to make a desperate move that resulted in a blowout loss for Florida.
I was completely wrong. Mae culpa.
No Orion that’s not what I meant at all. No one is a moron for predicting the result of one game. It is when you come in with a sweeping generalization like ” Big losses against LSU, UGA and Florida State are headed his way with likely slip ups to a couple others.” that you are acting like a moron. It is too early in this season to come up with that BS, especially when talking about a team that has shown improvement week by week and has talented players
You are the moron fakecajones. You stick your head in the dirt and refuse to see anything. Florida hasn’t improved week by week. There is no one but you that thinks they can beat UGA, LSU and FSU this year. All are light years ahead of your Billy led program. You win one game and you troll it up. You never come with any data or insight. You are just a wannabe troll. Act like Mr. Truth. More him, none of you.
Actually there are several Gator fans including myself that believe that the Gators could win 1 or more of those games. For me FSU is the most likely given that that game is in the Swamp and they showed this past Saturday that they can have off days. I do agree that those 3 teams currently have a better chance of winning versus the Gators, but if they play like the first quarter of the Tennessee game the Gators will be a challenge to beat.
Are you trying to get invited into the Triumvirate? There are a few reasonable UGA fans like OrionPeace and SupraDawg and then there’s a long litany of Morons like you whose only contribution is to insult other fanbases. Those like you give a bad name to the others, way to represent
“Florida AD Scott Stricklin is rational and patient. He understands what it takes to build something long-term.”
No he doesn’t. He’s an absolute loser from Starkville that has long been needed to be shown the door. Totally incompetent.
GatorPhil
“Florida AD Scott Stricklin is rational and patient. He understands what it takes to build something long-term.”
“No he doesn’t. He’s an absolute loser from Starkville that has long been needed to be shown the door. Totally incompetent.”
Why aren’t Florida fans and administration doing anything about getting rid of him?
Because his fate will be determined by the results of the Sunbelt Billy experiment in a couple of years, unless he does something truly stupid and gets fired for cause.
I don’t want to get on a soapbox but …I don’t owe Napier an apology. I have been beating the patience drum for a while on this site when it’s comes to Napier.
“…I’ll say it again, should never happen.” — Hot take from the participation-trophy crowd — and a hot-seat coach bailed out of his demise. And despite that, the kid then goes on to QB the best game of his life.
I’ve always wondered why some coaches sometimes grabbed a player’s facemask to get his attention before giving him an “ardent” message. Surely, fans can do the same? Stop pontificating, coach, and coach, then maybe fans won’t need to do your job for you. Just a thought.
Here you go FL fans:
The Southeastern Conference suspended three Florida players and one Tennessee player for the first half of their upcoming games for flagrant unsportsmanlike actions at the end of the Gators’ 29-16 upset of the No. 11 Volunteers on Saturday night.
PS : Go Job Sunbelt Billy
Tell the truth Monday, so here it is. How did UF beat TN and why UF will go 1-4 over their next five games. The only way for UF to beat TN is to get them to commit more to the run game out of their vertical passing, RPO like we saw on the first scoring drive. You bait them with 5 men in the box and Heupel took the bait. When you slow down an offense with someone whose yet to play in an environment like this, it’s going to complicate things. This offense is designed to play it’s best very fast and with a mix focus, whatever the D gives you. Napier couldn’t beat TN unless he made it a game about the lines and that only happens if Heupels thinks he has the advantage on the ground and with safe sideline passes. Wrong. Napier lined up heavy, and shifted constantly on offense and defense creating false starts. Joe is best when he doesn’t have to worry about the clock in fast uptempo vertical passing. Than, just over stack and create holes. Napier also saw Banks wasn’t stacking the D line, again with only 4 and two potential blitzers. This never worked last season but for some reason, Banks went to it and stayed with it and they got beat left, right or in the middle with holes wide open and some poor tackling. This tactict worked very well and got a big lead for UF. TN only went back to their normal fast uptemop like on the first drive when they had to late but too little to late. Don’t fall for box baits. When a coach makes it this obvious, it’s because he’s hoping you stop doing what you do best and Josh fell for it. Once your wise to it and go back, you can gain ground quick on UF. They were helpless to do anything the second half and the D collapsed late. Any other coach on UF’s schedule that are decent teams, won’t fall for this and they will just ware out in the second half like SC did with UGA. But UF had to get a big lead. A few more completions and better officiating, could be a different winner. This wasn’t the TN UGA game last year, this was a well laid plan to bait TN out of their ideal offense for the glory ground ball control clock and a poor D first half gave them the lead they needed. Well played Billy but any coach on your schedule with a decent D isn’t going to be slowed, wowed or fooled like this. If it’s not broken and it wasn’t after the first drive, don’t fix it for what you think is a clear advantage. You still have to win the line and TN needed way more bodies on the D line, just like last season and it worked. Banks is a moron for not even adjusting from this at the half. This scheme of Napier’s won’t work against SC, UGA, and quite a few others. Other teams will just bring more bodies off the line as TN should have. UGA will run 8 and bury Mertz.
That’s a lot of words just to say that Tennessee lost because Napier made a fool out of Heupel. Maybe, that explains why the classless idiot called that stupid timeout when trailing by 13 with 8 seconds left in the game. He was pissed.
That moronic move definitely makes Heupel an instant candidate for the Vol Hall of Fame!
Reading gwhite posts kills brain cells.
lol. I’m saving you the trouble of wondering what went wrong over your next 5 games. So when you ask, you can come back up here with your scholars to help you read all this and interpret it for you lol. No dummy, the called a timeout because it gives him one more shot to the endzone. It was 4th down tard lol. See, this is what I mean about struggle bus mentality in FL. How do you not know this? If he has one shot to the endzone with say 7 seconds and lets say he scored, if you did it right and hit the end zone maybe you have time for an onside kick. But the refs, being as bad as they were decided that there was just too many fans to clear to be bothered. Another failure on their part. But any timeout you have left on 4th gives you another chance and they stopped UF on 4th down. Mertz was dancing around instead of taking a knee. That is a live play and that is why Omari escorted him to the ground. But dumb FL players thought it was a cheap shot, not even being smart enough to know as long as Mertz is still up and dancing, it’s a live play. So tackling him or him taking a knee ends the play but Heupel’s timeout with 7 seconds leaves him the ball right there on downs.
Moron.
I agree, Moron with a capital M
LMAO!!! You two are killing me!
Gwhite, Mertz was going down to take a knee when he was hit by that cheap shot.
Also, when you are proven wrong about the rest of the Gator season, are you going to have the chutzpah to admit you were wrong?
If past is prologue, there’s no chance of that happening GFA. GWhite is the SDS resident Tennessee Moron, with a capital M.
1 – 4 over the next 5 games. Not Florida but Tenn
The Dawgs O-line and even the D-line need to improve, and I think they will.
What’s not being reported enough is Kirby has a team that’s dealing with the most injuries since he’s been at UGA. All of those missing starters will have an effect.
And yet, according to GWhite, the Dawgs should have no trouble mauling the Vols at the LOS when they play. Kirby just has to fool Heupel into not turning Bazooka Joe loose on the Dawg secondary.
No,UGA will have troubles at plenty, enough to deal with. What UGA won’t have trouble with is UF, no matter where they play. UGA does not play the same style of offense as TN so Napier had a one trick pony against TN and it worked to get that lead. He won’t do that against UGA, he will try and stack the line to futility. UGA won’t just have 4 on the line. It’s hard to know what D UGA will use against TN for the game in knoxville but one thing is for sure, TN won’t go out of their normal offense again for that against UGA. It’s clear you know this and know what worked against TN for one half, won’t be used against UGA. UGA has their issues this year like everyone else but not enough to lose to UF. I’d be more confident about UF going forward if it didn’t take that level of deception and so many tackling issues for TN and first half mistakes. Plus, UF got 3 points the entire second half. I doubt you get 10 points the entire game against UF and some other teams. That’s just me being real and compliment Napier on doing the only strategy that gave him the best chance to win and he did. You’ll still win only 6 games maybe and fire Napier maybe by seasons end.
against UGA*
GWhite, you should know the SEC is a LOS league and the 2023 Vols just got exposed as weak along the LOS. Expect lots of pain as a result of that reality the rest of this season.
The only thing Napier did wrong in that mauling on Saturday was to continue pounding the rock against 8-man fronts in the 2nd half. That did kill the clock and did hold the Vol O to 9 more points, but it invited that bush league move on the part of Heupel in calling a symbolic timeout with 8 seconds left in the game.
In retrospect, Napier should’ve turned the Mertzinator loose in SOS fashion and attempted to hang half-a-hunderd on that lame Vol D.
BTW, you seem to have erased from memory that dying quail Bazooka Joe threw to the Gator D in the 2nd quarter. That INT did more to drive Heupel into running the ball more than anything the Gators did with alignments and pre-snap movement.
Get used to seeing more of those dying quails from Bazooka Joe the rest of this season, because I’m sure other DCs will be taking note of how he was pressured into throwing it.
So let’s be real StlGator this was probably your bowl game and you should celebrate you won it..LOL But lets say you get 6 wins, they will just pair you up again with the 3rd best team in the pac12 and crush you again.
We’ll see how this season plays out for UF. That’s why they must play the games.
BTW, I would start to make December travel plans to Shreveport or Birmingham if I was you. Florida was the “soft spot” in Tennessee’s schedule this season.
Nobody owes Billy an apology. But Door Matt “I’m in a” Haze needs to apologize for writing farticles like this.
Well Hayes, quite a few of us on here thought that CBN could turn things around and improve Gator football, just because you wrote scathing articles about him doesn’t mean everyone felt the same way. This game helped people see what some of us thought could happen if the Gators played to their ability and minimized mistakes.
Relentless adherence to preconceived narratives is ALL the media needs to hold sway over most public opinion GFA. Most people are poorly informed and will go along with any narrative strongly pushed by columnists and/or talking heads on TV.
Notice how quickly Hayes reversed field when Napier proved him wrong on the field against Tennessee. Now, he’ll be a Napier advocate and all the negativity will be set aside until the Gators screw up again.
The failure to turn AR15 into a big star drove the “Napier is inept” narrative this offseason – “Just look at how high AR15 was drafted by the experts in the NFL and Sunbelt Billy couldn’t win more than 6 games with that future star at the Gator helm.”
If you don’t believe me, take a hard look at the narrative that’s forming now around Nick Saban for his handling of Jalen Milroe and those “other two substandard QBs at Alabama.” No mention of Milroe’s poor practice habits, or the OL blocking issues that are making life difficult for ANY QB at Alabama. That narrative is just getting started and we’re talking about the GOAT being “inept” here.
I agree StL, the media likes to make a mountain out of a molehill, and sadly people often just go along with what is said. Then something happens that doesn’t fit the narrative and they are shocked, how could it be. Hayes is an expert on this.
Hayes is worse GFA. When something occurs that doesn’t fit his prior narratives, he turns on a dime, radically alters them and pretends the previous ones didn’t exist. “Napier should be fired vs. Napier is great is just the latest.”
Why trust the guy when he has zero convictions???
Agreed, it’s sad that he does this.
It’s not just that Missouri won:
2. They are staying relatively healthy
3. They took a risk scheduling K State
4. Cashed the back side of that AFTER the football world saw KState make the top bowl game.
5. They faced a proven coaching staff and won
6 Their city and State showed up
7. They broke a conference record
8. They renewed a rivalry crossing conference lines
I can think of a lot more
Really K-State and Missouri hit a home run renewing this two-gamer. I just dried out from the soaking I sat thru in Manhattan last year.
I commented after the Utah loss, that I still thought Florida would be a good team. Looks like I was validated for thinking that.
Oh please fakecajones. Your predictions are off
Each time. You have this adorable blue and orange tinted crystal ball that actually thinks Billy is going to be great when until this Saturday all signs strongly suggest otherwise. But you keep up the faith little fella.
You should really read real articles about Gator football and watch the 3 games played, if you take off your I hate the Gators glasses you will realize that they have improved each game and that the defense is greatly improved from last season.
Well dummy so far I said we would take care of Tenn and we did, how was that prediction wrong?