Hayes: Urban Meyer to Texas? The seeds are being planted ...
I don’t want to be the guy to state the obvious, but I’m going to be the guy to state the obvious.
Urban Meyer is rooting around for a job again, everyone.
Not just any job. A job with the biggest budget and deepest pockets in all of college football.
A job that — and I know this is going to shock you — currently has a coach who may or may not need to show significant progress in 2023.
During a podcast episode of Urban’s Take with longtime Ohio State beat writer Tim May, Meyer proclaimed — are you ready for this? — about Texas: “Man for man, roster against roster, it’s hard to say Texas doesn’t have the best roster in college football.”
Look beyond the absurdity of this statement, and a statement last month on May’s podcast when Meyer said he was “done” coaching, and understand the Meyer says nothing without intent. Every word has meaning and future implications.
He knows Texas coach Steve Sarkisian, in Year 3 at the most difficult job in college football, can’t afford to roll out another 3rd-place finish in the Big 12 — no matter the talent level.
Texas is 13-12 overall (9-12 vs. Power 5 schools) and 9-9 in the Big 12 under Sarkisian. I don’t need to explain that those numbers don’t cut it for a program that has run through Charlie Strong and Tom Herman since forcing out Mack Brown after the 2013 season.
So what does Urb do? He turns up the heat like only he can, knowing full well that if he says Texas has the best roster in college football — and he knows all about building elite rosters — big donor Texas boosters will use that very statement against Sarkisian if the Longhorns don’t fulfill those unreasonable expectations.
And if that happens, the same booster money that helped jettison Brown, Strong and Herman — the latter after a 7-3 finish in the COVID season, for the love all things Bevo — will be used to start over again. Because Texas can’t limp, all hat and no cattle, into its first season of SEC competition in 2024.
What better way to begin anew (again), than by bowing up and strolling into the biggest, baddest conference with a coach who won 2 national titles the last time he was there.
Urb’s easy sales pitch, beyond what he later accomplished at Ohio State: “Look what Florida has become since I left.”
Don’t think those desperate big-money boosters at Texas won’t buy it. Don’t think they won’t look past Meyer’s disastrous and brief flirtation in the NFL, when the dysfunctional, embarrassing product on the field was surpassed only by Meyer’s reckless behavior off it.
Don’t think they won’t look past the sordid end at Ohio State, where Meyer was caught lying by a university committee investigating his enabling of disgraced wide receivers coach Zach Smith.
Or look past Meyer deleting texts from his phone before Ohio State investigators could search it for clues.
Or look past him telling OSU investigators that he met with Smith’s wife in 2009 while the coach at Florida (where Zach Smith was a staffer), and she recanted domestic abuse claims. Meanwhile, Zach Smith told OSU investigators that Meyer didn’t meet with her.
Or when almost 3 dozen players were arrested in Meyer’s 6 seasons at Florida.
This is who Meyer is. He’s also a ridiculously talented college coach, who’s still a young man (58), and without doubt would win big at Texas.
He knows this, and knows how to manipulate situations to his greater good because, well, how can you turn down a guy with his resume?
It’s easy to ignore Meyer retiring twice at Florida for “health reasons,” and returning less than year later to jump right back into the meat grinder at Ohio State.
It’s easy to ignore the Ohio State cover story (a measly 3-game suspension) that allowed Meyer to, once again, later declare “heath reasons” and retire months later.
It’s easy to ignore Meyer showing up in the NFL, where he was given everything he could possible want to change a failing franchise, and was fired after 11 months — on the heels of allegations that he assaulted his kicker during a practice.
The bar is lowered for those who are elite in their profession, for those who had as many conference championships and unbeaten seasons (4) as career Big Ten losses.
So why not throw out into the ether that Texas has the best roster in college football, when Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Texas A&M and Clemson — at least — have better talent.
Why not pump up Texas quarterback Quinn Ewers, who clearly has ability — but completed 58% of his passes in 2022 and had a TD/INT ratio of 15/6 in 9 starts.
Why not put a big, fat target on the back of the guy coaching the 1 program that just might be desperate enough to hire you — should it need a coach?
It’s as brilliant as it is devious.
And patently obvious.
You know what they say about broken clocks?
Well, it’s not quite being right twice a day for Matt Vile Libel Hayes, but the principle is there, because he’s 100% correct about the absolute slimeball known as Corch Irvin Meyers.
Is that why you chose your name after him? Slimeballs of a feather?
lol, so your GOAT coach is a slimeball
Ummm…our GOAT is Steve Spurrier.
Have zero love for Meyer.
You love and many others love The Ole Bourbon Coach but all across the State of Florida chapters of the Crips and Bloods favor Meyer over The Ole Bourbon Coach. It’s be hard to pin down who is actually the most loved.
Who’s done more for UF?
The Ole Bourbon Coach had the better winning percentage .8167 and more SEC Championships
Meyer had more NC’s and with a just slightly less winning percentage of .8125.
Meyer’s 2 NC’s were legit BCS Titles while The Ole Bourbon Coach backed his way into his NC by getting lucky against FSU the 2nd time around.
The Ole Bourbon Coach is an alum who won the Heisman as a player and he can drink Meyer under that table
Yeah I can see that – The Ole Bourbon Coach is UF’s GOAT
Wow to say anyone back Doored a title is To funny coming form you
Td wow ( see uga 2021)…
Uf was locked into the sugar bowl as the sec champ in 96.. uga was blown out by Bama In the sec title game and somehow gets into the playoffs to play bama again ? Please do not ever say anyone back doored any title
When uga is the poster child for the name
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Spurrier is definitely the GOAT Florida coach. Meyer may have won a lot but he has little ethics and morals.
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It’s Spurrier, calm yourself.
It’s Meyer. Without the s. Unless that’s for snake.
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Sterling letter of recommendation from the Jags, right?
Texas is the toughest job in CFB? Sorry, but it is nowhere near as tough as Vandy, Stanford, and other academic powerhouses that do not lower admissions standards for athletes.
“I don’t want to be the guy to state the obvious, but I’m going to be the guy to state the obvious.”
SMDH
“Urban Meyer is rooting around for a job again, everyone.”
Texas is the perfect place for him since they suck at hiring head coaches.
Yawn.
Another article about something that will never happen. Even Texas has standards.
Sark isnt getting fired before he has a chance to win with Arch
But to take this ridiculous scenario one step further, if Coach Scumbag somehow got the job, Arch would be gone in a flash. The Mannings wouldnt want Meyer’s stink to get on them
^^^
texas doesnt have an easy schedule this year and could be anywhere from 4-8 to 8-4. Im guessing 6-6 but not sure who returns for teams like baylor, tcu, iowa state, k state, houston… I have no idea what the expectations are by the people who matter but it should be fair to say substantial improvement is expected. Not sure they would can him before at least one year with arch at the helm, unless 4-8 or 5-7 happens, but its desperate times these days if youre not one of a handful of teams.
Meyer can’t be next in Austin, that’s Gruden’s job!
Disgusting to think about all that could go wrong.
I agree that Meyer is this manipulative, and I agree that the Texas boosters would look past all the baggage.
But I’m not so sure he would want to go to Texas.
Why not? Texas is about to join the SEC, where he would not have Ohio State’s regular season schedule. The SEC is also significantly deeper now than it was when he was at Florida.
Texas was in a 90-91 average player rating cluster, significantly behind Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State and a good bit behind Texas A&M (91.85), in 2022.
I’m not so sure TX would hire him. Like Michigan and ND, image is incredibly important at TX. They act like they are above it all and are so great they don’t need to cheat or hire dirtbags. That’s why Chris Beard was shown the door even after his girlfriend recanted her allegations against him. Image is everything at TX. But you’re correct in thinking Meyer wants no part of the SEC grind anymore. He’d get too many of those “headaches” again.
Urban is one of the few where 60 is the new 80.
Even if (most scant if that it is) he went to Texas he couldn’t keep up after two years and burn himself out and be gone. He’s a bad investment.
Sark isn’t anywhere near as low as Urban is.
What’s with all the articles about TEXAS and SDS’s infatuation with TEXAS? We don’t even enter the SEC for another 416 days. Write some stuff about SEC schools for God’s sake! Readers on here don’t want to read about TEXAS cause they’re irrelevant!
They are writing SEC articles 365 days a year. There are portions of the year where nothing is going on in CFB especially between spring practice and August. At least this gives us something to discuss.
No, they are most definitely not writing anything 365 days a year. They had a unanimous all American on an sec softball team last season who cam within 3 hits of chamberlains mark. But they write an entire article about alo, a player on Oklahoma, never mention Davidson. Even ESPN had the sense to include her when they did a writeup on the increased power hitting in softball. This site is lazy, plain and simple
Not trying to be mean, but are you talking about the accuracy of reporting women’s softball on this site? They routinely screw up the money maker, football, so I’m surprised they even knew softball was a collegiate sport.
Not accuracy, wasted effort covering nonsec stuff when they could write stuff actually happening in the sec. That was just a blatant example.
It’s all about expanding the readership numbers.
After Texas joins the SEC, you can expect the irrelevance to continue. That’s likely to go for Oklahoma too, at least for the first 5-10 seasons.
This is sports writers loose touch with reality. Where is the evidence that urban Meyer has unique management, technical tactical, physical, psychological training skills that no one else has, because any fraction of those just mentioned, or all of those just mentioned, might be credited to his staff
Another writer stating the ends justify the means. No doubt Meyer has been wildly successful everywhere he has been, but has the morals and ethics at a disgusting level. That man is toxic, and if UTx is will to destroy their rep to win at any costs, well, have fun with that.
And before everyone goes nuts, I don’t count the NFL disaster in my successful comment. I am only addressing CFB.
You’re right dvhill. Meyer’s NFL tryout should count against him.
His dictatorial approach didn’t work at all on NFL players. So he lost his mind, then mentally checked out, before he was fired.
Less dramatic versions of that same experience occurred to Spurrier and Saban. Both returned to CFB and reestablished their prior success. Meyer will too.
Bad morals and ethics no longer disqualify anybody from important public jobs. Those days are clearly in America’s past, judging by the reprobates we routinely elect to public offices these days.
Correction: shouldn’t count against him.
LOL. He only had 2 SEC championship rings which are more valuable that anything so I respect him. He can’t handle the grind of an SEC schedule anymore.
*than*
So many championship rings makes it hard to type*
The fakest 3 Year Letterman I’ve seen. Just don’t..
Do you know who you are talking to? There’s nothing fake about $35.03 an hour plus bennies, a custom leather cell phone holster, and Oakley wraparound sunglasses. Take several seats.
Like others have stated, unless the bottom drops out this year, I think the Horns are married to Sark at least two more years.
And even then, if, IF they were to fire Sarkisian, there are other names to turn to before Meyer. The Horns do have standards, as hidden as they may seem to be, and Urban’s last year at OSU and the Jags debacles (off field, not on) have sorely tarnished his name.
If Texas finds themselves in a situation where they’re in need of a coach, I could see them looking at Dykes, Klieman, (Chip) Kelly, etc. before Meyer. They haven’t seen the same amount of success, true, but they don’t bring the massive amount of baggage and negative press as Meyer would.
If Dan Lanning wins the PAC this year he would be an attractive hire. He might just need to win 10 games.
Please, STOP!
Hands off Dan. I do think the Ducks, along with USC and UW will go 10-2 this season.
With each passing year the infinite wisdom and superior strategic-thinking of the powers-that-be at UGA just becomes more and more evident.
Starting in 2010 a sizeable Fire Mark Richt movement started. There was even a movement to hire mullet when McGarity took over as AD. But cooler heads always prevailed; Mark Richt wasn’t burning down the house so the question that had to be answered by every knee-jerk fire-the-coach movement was “who are you going to hire that you know will be better?” A group had identified Kirby Smart as the future of UGA football so they bided their time until the timing was right.
No cluster f*cks in Athens like there have been in Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, Gainesville, Auburn, Austin etc etc etc etc. Just preparing the soil, planting the seeds, watering, feeding and nurturing the sprouts to now feeding the growing Oak tree that is college football’s greatest All-Time Dynasty in the making.
well youre there so there is one…
You mean other than the 12 glorious years under Jim Donnan and Ray Goff? A literally identical time span to Muschamp, McElwain and Mullen.
Jury’s still out on Billy.
“Jury’s still out on Billy”
Yeah right – turd nation is just waiting until they can afford to fire Sunbelt Billy and hire the next shiny object
many a turd has stated that on these blogs
Jim Donnan and Ray Goff are great men and where commensurate professionals as coaches. Donnan is actually in the College HOF while Goff went on to be wildly successful in the hospitality industry. Both Donnan and Goff still live in Athens area, are involved with UGA football and are loved by Dawg Nation. True that neither had the success of Wally Butts, Vince Dooley, Mark Richt or Kirby Smart but both are part of the fabric of UGA football and both contributed mightily to what UGA Football is today.
Although neither Goff’s nor Donnan’s tenures ended they way the would have liked their tenures weren’t even in the same universe as the sh*t shows that happen at the I-75 Truck Stop every 1,000 – 1,400 days. At UGA we spent $30,000,000.00 building a new indoor practice facility not paying coaches to leave town.
The University of Florida – where the smart people make McDonalds and The US Post Service look like efficient, World-class hiring machines.
You left out the part where Muschamp, McElwain and Mullen so love the Gainesville area that they all retired there after their dismal failures.
Well, we paid coaches to leave, and built an indoor, and built a new standalone football operations facility.
Talking about what great men Donnan and Goff are is called changing the subject. And I’m not sure their records were any better; might have been a bit worse.
As for them still living in Athens, that means nothing.
While I agree that Goff was UGa’s version of Muschamp when it came to head coach decision making, you could not be further from the truth regarding Jim Donnan, Nash. How soon you forget he was the first head coach in UGa history to win 4 straight bowl games. Seems I recall Donnan was fired against the wishes of our AD at the time, one Vincent Dooley. Losing to Ga Tech and U of F 3 seasons in a row along with some off-field player problems are what cost Donnan. I thought he was a decent coach but losing to your in-state rival is a recipe for dismissal. Donnan was a huge positive influence on Kirby Smart btw…I wouldn’t take any investment advice from him though
What dvhill and Tdow said.
That other UT and Meyer deserve each other lol
I Reckon, you skipped the mountains this weekend since you have cell service and on here throwing a hissy fit.
Urbs left the SEC with a faux heart attack. He isn’t coming back with coaches like Saban, Kirby, and now Kelly established.
I think Hayes is jumping to conclusions. He just wrote an entire article based on one line in a podcast.
The last time Urban was coaching in the SEC he had to retire because his brittle heart couldn’t take it. The SEC is more competitive now. I don’t see how it doesn’t kill him if he comes back… so… yeah, let’s go Urban!
The stress from the traffic alone in Austin would kill him.
Meyer and the Longhorns are a great fit.
Meyer is just Hugh Freeze with a flat top.
Matt Hayes is just Pat Forde without the slime.
with twice the slime… there, I fixed it for you
If Freeze flops, AU would take Meyer with open arms and wallets. It never ends…
With Texas soon heading in the SEC, their future fortunes are very uncertain. The SEC has no shortage of strong rosters and good HCs. If Meyer were to ever slime his way into being Texas’ HC, he will find a very difficult landscape that could potentially stain his coaching record.
Pod – Oklahoma, Texas, TX A+M. Texas has a significant winning record vs A+M.
And these 3 schools will not play Bama, LSU, UGA, and Florida every season. They will play a mixture of strong SEC teams and also Mizzou, Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi State, and Arkansas.
Not every team in the SEC is a behemoth.
No, but there are usually a number of respectable teams in the middle that can be difficult to deal with if a team isn’t prepared.
Meyer is not going to Texas especially with the move the sec. You talk about even higher expectations for Texas, that school is gonna be firing coaches like the UT.
Media: looks at the calendar-shoot It’s May and there is literally nothing going on in college football. Iknow! Let’s do an article on where Urban Myer will coach next..
My bologna has a first name,
It’s U-R-B-A-N.
My bologna has a second name,
It’s M-E-Y-E-R.
Oh I love to eat it everyday,
And if you ask me why I’ll say,
Cause’ Urban Meyer has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A!!!!
Urban Meyer is retired as a football coach. Of course all the talk about 2023 and how much progress does Sark have to show in the program are valid points but Urban is finished with coaching. He has lost the fire inside.
Agreed. One year can change everything for Sark – good or bad.
Meyer is getting easy money on TV now.
Why would he want to be subjected to the scrutiny and pressure of the Texas job heading into the SEC…not gonna happen.
As long as there are coeds to give the shocker to, Urban will want to coach.
I’ve heard that Urban prefers the more mature Grad Students.
Idk why so many are saying character means more than winning at Texas? I could see Myer there but him and Louisville would be perfect
I challenge anyone to find an interview with Urban Meyer where he sounded smarter than the maybe the bottom third of NCAA coaches
The Texas fans think it will be easier in the SEC.
Matt please stoooooop
Sark is our coach