O'Gara: Takeaways from the 3rd Playoff Poll of 2024
Now it gets real.
With 2 weeks left in the regular season, there are Playoff paths that are within sight. “Win and get in” doesn’t apply to everyone anymore. Sure, automatic bids are at stake, but the 12-team Playoff has made for plenty of discourse among the potential at-large teams.
Here’s what the Playoff Poll looked like on Tuesday night:
Here are takeaways from the 3rd Playoff Poll of 2024:
Georgia got the biggest win of the weekend, but not the biggest boost
That sounds like a gripe. It’s not. Context is needed for why the Dawgs fell 9 spots to No. 12 after losing to Ole Miss, but then climbed just 2 spots to No. 10 after beating Tennessee.
Fellow 2-loss teams Alabama and Ole Miss both have the head-to-head against Georgia, and both also have multiple wins against the current CFP Top 25. Ergo, why Georgia’s ceiling was somewhat limited this week. So too, however, is UGA’s floor moving forward because even though it lacks the head-to-head against those teams, it has wins against No. 3 Texas, No. 11 Tennessee and No. 17 Clemson … all by double digits.
Speaking of Tennessee, the Vols fell 4 spots after losing to Georgia. They are now in the unenviable spot of looking up at 4 different SEC teams, 1 of which being fellow 2-loss Alabama … who lost to Tennessee. But because there’s not a clean way to rank 2-loss teams strictly based on head-to-head — you can’t apply that same logic elsewhere because Georgia has the head-to-head vs. Tennessee and Alabama beat Georgia — Tennessee’s résumé is in some trouble after the UGA loss.
The Vols could use a bit of chaos while Georgia is setting itself up for an at-large berth.
Miami is now slotted behind Alabama
Sneaky. Real sneaky.
Alabama played FCS Mercer, which is a slight upgrade from Miami’s bye week. Yet the selection committee moved the Tide from No. 10 to No. 7 while Miami moved from No. 9 to No. 8. How much of that was because the selection committee watched Miami’s best win, Louisville, suffer loss No. 4 and fall out of the CFP Top 25? It had to. Louisville is the only team that Miami beat that currently has a winning conference record.
Alabama, meanwhile, has 4 wins against teams in the current CFP Top 25. That felt like an acknowledgment of that to sneak the 2-loss Tide ahead of Miami. It’s even telling that the selection committee put Miami as a buffer between Alabama and fellow 2-loss SEC teams Ole Miss (No. 9), Georgia (No. 10) and Tennessee (No. 11).
If chalk plays out in the SEC, Alabama will face Texas in the conference championship game. Whether the selection committee would punish the battle-tested Tide remains to be seen.
Can we learn anything from BYU’s fall that can potentially be applied to Indiana?
I thought that was a good question for Rece Davis to ask at the top of the rankings show. BYU and Indiana have been 1 spot apart in the first 2 rankings. They both made a jump last week past Tennessee even though none of those 3 teams had a needle-mover victory.
So this week, it was interesting to see how far the Cougars would fall after a brutal home loss to Kansas. From No. 6 to No. 14 was how much the selection committee dinged BYU. Mind you, BYU is now 1 spot behind an SMU squad that it beat, albeit back in September. That means BYU is the lowest-ranked 1-loss Power Conference team.
Obviously, losing to Kansas at home is different than losing to Ohio State in Columbus. It’s not an exact comparison. But given how closely those résumés were valued, IU isn’t in position to assume anything if it gets blown out in Columbus.
Alternatively, think about this. Would the selection committee ever consider IU at No. 1 if it pulled off the upset? That’s something that nobody is talking about even though IU beating Ohio State in Columbus would be more impressive than Oregon doing so in Eugene. Yes, the Ducks have the deeper résumé because of the wins against No. 12 Boise State and No. 25 Illinois, but it’s something to keep in mind.
Saturday will mean everything for the Hoosiers.
Boise State getting a top-4 seed — if this ended today — is a truly wild thought
I hate doing the bracket reveal as the rankings are being announced. It’s unnecessarily confusing to the viewer. But it was noteworthy seeing in real time that by Boise State being ranked No. 12 ahead of projected Big 12 champ BYU (No. 14), it would get a first-round bye. That’s bananas.
If you had asked me in the preseason, I would’ve said it’s highly unlikely that we see a Group of 5 team even get to host a first-round Playoff game, much less get a bye. Boise State still has work to do to make that happen — don’t forget about the possibility of No. 19 Army getting a massive boost into the top 10 if it can upset No. 6 Notre Dame — but it speaks to how wild of a year it’s been.
We can sit here and debate if Boise State is being propped up too much because of how great Ashton Jeanty is and because the best thing on the résumé is a close loss at Oregon. Fair. That’s also the No. 1 team in America. Plus, beating a CFP Top 25 team like No. 24 UNLV helped, as did drubbing a Washington State team that sits at 8-2.
It’s incredible to think that a 1-loss Mountain West team is currently ranked ahead of 1-loss teams from the ACC (No. 13 SMU) and the Big 12 (No. 14 BYU). It remains to be seen what’ll happen if those teams win their conference title games.
For now, though, there’s no denying that Boise State has become one of the fascinating stories of the first 12-team Playoff.
We CAN NOT allow the Vols to slip in as the 5th SEC team. They can’t win on the road and the embarrassment and damage to the conference would be far worse than simply having 4 good teams.
Also Hopefully Army gets in and not the Vols as payback for the Vols being scared to play them a couple years back.
Leave the site. You don’t belong here.
The Vols should leave the SEC. They don’t belong here. More of a mid ACC team
I thought you died after your silence from that Ole Miss beat down. Hahahahahha
31-17
8 in a row
1998
Dog2021: What’s with the unhealthy obsession with the Vols? I just looked up your stats and like the last 100 of your posts are about Tennessee and you keep posting the same thing. Seriously, it’s creepy. Post something about Georgia or don’t post at all but your Vol fetish is ruining both your creds and the site. Calm down, dude.
You read through 100 of my posts? Talk about creepy
Please don’t discourage him. I’ve infiltrated his psyche and incepted into his sub conscious a complex. VOLS is all he is suggested to post about.
hahahaha, I guess you are right. You really have infiltrated his psyche. I guess I should feel sorry for him.
I don’t have a favorite SEC team – I really like them all. I notice a few trends in the comments:
-> KY fans are beat down
-> TN fans pine to be relevant again
-> FL fans are lost
-> SC fans are embarrassed and surprised when they win
There are a few regulars who annoyingly jaw at each other but my observation overall – Georgia fans are the most insufferable. They all act like descendants of Uncle Lou (there’s a real class act) and insist on posting the same thing over and over. They are like broken records. Not to sound like the main stream media talking about J.D. Vance in September but…it’s weird.
And this guy, dog2021…he literally posts the same thing a dozen times a day: vols suck, can’t win away, pipe in crowd noise, 1998 is calling, call the recruits. I imagine this guy sitting in his underwear in front of a computer from the early 2000’s running Windows XP, watching Uncle Lou on repeat, laughing at himself every time he hits the send button. “I’ll get that voltrainconductor this time!!!”
LOL yeah Tennessee wants a return to glory. Dawgs2021 is mad it’s already started happening. I personally imagine most of these kids don’t even remember when Tennessee was relevant. Neyland capacity was maxed out 45 years ago. It’s only gotten smaller since. You don’t build a 110k stadium almost 50 years ago without massive program success. They just don’t know, but they are scared.
I’m sure they want to return to glory, but as the saying goes, want in one hand and you know what in the other and see which one gets full first.
Meanwhile l, 8 in a row
You sound more scared to me than anything else. You know the refs helped you all game. Especially on your second half scoring drives. Just worry about Georgia Tech for now.
Shhh…you couldn’t score in the second half and they helped by calling actual penalties LOL
31-17
8 in a row
1998
You had me until you blamed the refs. Only losers blame the refs. They called a good game, and btw it WAS a facemask.
Voltrainconductor has a YouTube channel & he goes by the name Uncle Lou. Found out he had to make up a name & claiming he’s a Tennessee Volunteer fan to cover a bet when Georgia lost to Ole Miss…..
No one’s going to slip in as the 5th SEC team. The SEC is not getting 5 teams in.
Troll
Nico doesn’t have the juice and the Vols can’t be allowed to represent the SEC in the playoffs. The inevitable road loss would be an embarrassment to the conference
Florida will make a late run
I would definitely rather play the Vols than the Gators again. If not for the piped in noise you guys would have beaten them at Neyland!
UF would beat Penn St
The Vols would not though.
They would at home :)
We havent lost to anyone by 18 on the road… just sayin
You haven’t beaten anyone with a pulse on the road. And then there is 31-17.
If the Vols can’t pipe in crowd noise, they can’t beat a decent team. The Stats bear this out.
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Crazy that there are two tiger teams that both have had terrible losses of late and have no business being in the top 25 – yet there’s Mizzou.
Both would be at the Vols though. Honestly Auburn probably would.
The Vols are mid on a good day. We can not allow them to embarrass the SEC in a road playoff game. They couldn’t even beat Arkansas. The conference just can’t allow itself to be embarrassed like that. If we get a 5th team it should be SC or Vandy.
Missouri AT AL 41-10
Missouri AT aTm 34-0
Missouri AT South Carolina who ever scored last won
And if you compare Missouri’s results to LSU’s 2024 the strongest conclusion is these football teams are very close to same quality 2024. Probably they have opposite feelings in each club house however and that situation can be applauded or criticized with equal fervor.
LSU OOC slate more difficult than Mizzou’s. LSU played USC and UCLA (which aren’t world beaters I realize) which is tougher than anything MIzzou played with: Buffalo, Murray St, BC, UMass.
Half of the colleges who get a bi in the first round will lose in the second round
If Indiana loses, they need to free fall below most top ranked 2-loss teams. Absolutely same for Ohio State. Neither have quality wins to support a top-10 ranking.
Not the Vols though. They should remain ahead of them. I mean they couldn’t beat Arkansas.
It’s incredible that Heupel led the VOLS to the Playoff in his 4th year with 28 scholarships tied behind his back. 22,17,10,14. It’s absolutely incredible. If he were to win just 1 game in the playoff, he would be National Coach of the Year.
I like when you speak from an alternate future.
It would be a road game so you won’t win. Honestly setting up the Vols against a quality road opponent is setting up the conference for embarrassment. If we get a 5th team it should definitely be South Carolina. They are just a better team.
If I were Choking Georgia, I would be trying to steal Heupel away from Tennessee.
You aren’t in the playoffs. Tennessee is ranked well enough if they happened right now. But Vandy is going to end that.
I would definitely fire a coach who blames our fans and assaults opposing players.
Here is my personal opinion on how the regular season will wind up, with conference championship games, playoffs, final four, then national championship game,(this is how I see the committee ranking teams).
FINAL REGULAR SEASON STANDINGS
1.Ohio State
2.Oregon
3.Alabama
4.Penn State
5.Notre Dame
6.Texas
7.SMU
8.Ole Miss
9.Georgia
10.Boise State
11.Tennessee
12.Arizona State
SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Alabama vs Texas – Alabama winner
BIG 10 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Ohio State vs Oregon –
Ohio State winner
BIG 2 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Arizona State vs Colorado
Arizona State winner
ACC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME –
SMU vs Miami
SMU winner
GROUP OF FIVE HIGHEST RANKED
Boise State
FIRST ROUND
Boise State vs Oregon
Oregon winner
Texas vs Tennessee
Texas winner
Georgia vs Penn State
Georgia winner
Ole Miss vs Notre Dame
Ole Miss winner
QUARTERFINALS
Oregon vs Arizona State
Oregon winner
Texas vs Ohio State
Ohio State winner
Georgia vs SMU
Georgia winner
Ole Miss vs Alabama
Alabama winner
CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Ohio State vs Alabama
(will give the winner January 01, 2025
Again, this is just how I see how the regular season ends & rankings, championship game & winners, playoff rounds & winners, & the final two teams to meet in Atlanta Georgia January 20, 2025 for the National Championship Game.
Congratulations to all teams for a fantastic 2024 college football season & even a better one next season.
Not sure of your seeding. They do not reseed after the 1st round. Think you need to look again.
Hmm, so what happens when Indiana gets beat 48-10 by Ohio State in their only real competitive test all year, and Texas loses on the road to Texas A&M and then Texas A&M gets run over by Alabama in the SEC championship game. The top 3 teams in the SEC would be Bama, Ole Miss and Georgia. Who would be the 3rd best team in the B1G?
Everyone should notice that the “head to head rule” is not applied consistently. Certainly, UGA “HAS” to be ranked behind the 2 teams that it lost to – ALA & Miss, BUT ALA is ranked ahead of both teams it lost to – TN and Vandy. Plus UGA has much better wins – TX, TN, Clemson while ALA has SC & Mizzou.
Alabama also has Georgia. I agree though with regards to Ole Miss. Their OOC schedule especially was a joke. The committee is telling everyone to never play a Power 4 OOC because they don’t care about schedule strength.
And never go to a nine game Conference schedule.
SC beats Clemson and gets in.
I posted this on another thread. What if AM beats Texas? Will the committee drop them out? With zero quality wins, Texas absolutely would not deserve to be in the CFP. It wouldn’t appear though, cus they’re ranked so dang high. I don’t care what your name is or how good you’re supposed to be, you have to prove it on the field.
The committee is a joke. Old Miss and Miami had bye weeks and yet Miami jumps Old Miss this week. Not a fan of either team but it just shows what a joke the committee is.