NCAA President Mark Emmert is not a popular guy across the NCAA landscape, from players, to coaches and media. After a meeting with a host of players this week about name, imagine and likeness issues, along with Title IX, the opinion of Emmert isn’t likely to change.

The three leaders of the #NotNCAAProperty movement — Iowa guard Jordan Bohannon, Rutgers guard Geo Baker and Michigan forward Isaiah — are men. The athletes described the 45-minute meeting with Emmert as mostly unproductive, even saying that the NCAA leader denied the player group’s request to involve more athlete participants on the call, including women, Sports Illustrated reported. But it appears there was some misinterpretation, according to Laine Higgins of the Wall Street Journal. Emmert agreed on March 25. Athletes misinterpreted and alleged he barred women today.

“Just a lot of talk,” Baker said, describing the conversation with Emmert. “The NCAA doesn’t want to be the first to take action (on NIL). He kept saying Congress … Congress.”

Emmert, for his part, described the meeting this way: “I was incredibly impressed with their thinking on all of this…. I want to personally continue that conversation” and “we need to do the same with women athletes, obviously.”

Critics have pressured the NCAA to make a decision on NIL legislation, but it’s delayed any action for months because of antitrust concerns raised by the Department of Justice and the ongoing legal battle over athlete compensation that was heard before the U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday.

Asked to define amateurism, Emmert says it is that college athletes are, “full time students that are pursuing a degree,” that their relationship to the university is not one of employee/employer and that they’re “not paid to perform in their sport.”