Longhorns beat writer: Texas A&M should have stayed in Big 12
Possible expansion in the Big 12, which currently has 10 teams, has been discussed at length this offseason, and it came up Monday on The Paul Finebaum Show when one Big 12 reporter argued Texas A&M should not have left for the SEC.
Brain Davis, a Texas beat writer for the Austin American-Statesman, suggested that if the Aggies had stayed in the Big 12, they would be better off and might have won a conference championship.
"If Texas A&M stayed in the Big 12 they would be more competitive & maybe would have even won a conference title by now" – @BDavisAAS
— Paul Finebaum (@finebaum) May 9, 2016
Texas A&M’s move to the SEC for the 2012 season has been seen as a huge success for both parties. TAMU’s presence helped introduce the SEC brand and the SEC Network into the second-most populated state in the country and its major television markets. The Aggies have successfully used “play in the SEC” as a sales pitch on the recruiting trail in the Lone Star State.
While on the show, Davis also stated if the Texas A&M job were to open up, he knows which in-state coach would jump at the opportunity.
.@BDavisAAS tells us it's widely believed Tom Herman has his eye on Texas & Texas A&M to see if any openings pop up
— Paul Finebaum (@finebaum) May 9, 2016
A Big 12 conference championship is worth more than the hundreds of millions A&M has made switching to the SEC? This guy’s an idiot.
Wheres the story here? Hes a longhorns writer. Is he really gonna say A&M did the right thing? Guys an idiot.
Aggies have been in the SEC for four years; they have NOTHING to show for it. At least Missouri made it to the Conference Championship a couple of times. Aggies, no way.
If A&M played in the east, A&M would have made it to a couple conference championships. The west is so much more difficult than the east. The east is been embarrassingly terrible since Missouri Joined, while the west has been the best in college football.
and which years would those be?
Every friggin year.
It doesn’t take a genius to recognize that the west is the best. Ya’ll have Vandy, Mizzou and Kentucky….
The west doesn’t have any teams close to that caliber!
Ha that’s funny. So in 2012 you had already lost to Florida and would have lost to Georgia, so no East title there.
2013 – 4 losses including one to Mizzou (who won the east)
2014- 5 losses including one to Mizzou (who won the east)
2015- 5 losses after bowl season and granted did beat both east teams.
I am yet to see a year where A&M would have won the east but good logic dude!
When would we have played Georgia? The schedule suggests we would have replaced Mizzou with the mutts. Who’s to say the mutts would have won? The transitive property applies to the latter portion of your statement; it’s littered with fallacy, you need not apply bro….
They have millions to show for it.
Feinbaum is the Captain Obvious of college football. It is a backhanded way of saying that the SEC is significantly superior to the Big 12. Like every college football fan in America does not already know that.
What should’ve been “obvious” was that Finebaum didn’t say this!! Big 12 beat writer Brain Davis said it on P.F.’s show!!
I understood what he was saying-finebaum regurgitating Davis’ rhetoric fits the Captain obvious narrative.
I understand he’s a big Bama t-shirt fan, but the dude is a moron.
The Aggies might’ve won the SEC East in their first SEC season…..2012. They were pretty evenly matched with Georgia. That’s the only year.
They already lost to Florida earlier that year as well…
First SEC game with a freshman quarterback that threw quick slants,and ran read option the whole game….
Ok, but it was clear as day that we were the best team in the country after the Bama game.
Nobody wanted a piece of A&M!
You do realize that you guys played bama the second week in November, you had already played 6 conference games by that time. It’s not like you played them in September and then just rolled through the rest of your schedule. Logic isn’t something king has much of…
The Bama game and then the Cotton Bowl solidified my statement, “we were the best team in the country after the Bama game”; I never said we rolled through 6 more games.
First I made a statement—> then I used evidence to support that statement. I guess you never went to college and learned how to present a point…
You want talk about logic?
“Logic isn’t something king has much of…”, Try not to talk like you’re the offspring of Yoda and Confucius. FOH dude.
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Is football the only championship in the SEC. Is the SEC a boys only conference.
Well this is a football blog.
I agree..Texas A&M and Missouri should have stayed in the Big 12..Im sure there are a few here that just wont say it..”Man..just imagine if we had stayed in the Big 12…Man we would’ve probably be competing for a spot in the CFP…! There, I said it for you.
Texas A&M will NEVER and I mean NEVER sniff the CFP even if it expands to 8 teams as long as they are in the SEC (West or East).. They would have to beat or own Alabama, Miss St, Olé Miss, LSU and even Auburn every year..And that my friend will NEVER EVER happen.
Why did you put an accent mark in Ole Miss?
Auto correct.. sorry..
Never is a pretty long time. Sounds like a sad lil Horn. For the men, Aggies won the SEC in basketball last year, will likely win in baseball this year, and with time, I am sure they will win the toughest division in CFB and make the playoff. I can smell your fear. Now go change your underwear.
I’ll probably bet they are competitive in Bowling, Tennis, LaCross, Volleyball etc etc.. but since we’re discussing football, let’s get back to the regularly scheduled program..
Sip much?
“Never.” Man you don’t know much about sports. In my lifetime I have seen a bunch of college kids beat the best professional hockey team in the world in 1980. Closer to home I have seen the local high school golf team win the Texas state championship. You ask: what is unusual about that? Well, one thing is that there is an incredible amount of junior golf talent in the State of Texas. But what this remarkable is the fact that this very large high school had something like six teams, comprised of five players each. The team that won the state championship was not The Woodlands H.S. “A” team (players ranked 1-5 on scores). Rather, it was the “B” team (players at the school ranked 6-10, based on scores).
No, Texas A&M could definitely win it all. It is a school with an incredibly deep state in terms of football talent. It is the only SEC school in that state. It has the best facilities in that state and in the SEC. It has unbelievably deep pockets. In fact, if it had better players in only three or four positions on defense in 2012 it would have won the SEC then. They are not that far away. Moreover, if they had the bag men Ole Mi$$ has they would be where Ole Mi$$ is now or better.
I don’t think it will happen with Sumlin at the helm. Time will tell.
You said a whole lot and I actually read it.. What I may have missed was you explaining Texas A&M beating; Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St, Arkansas and Auburn in the same season adding 2 SEC East teams in the mix then letting it simmer with an SEC Championship game win against probably the same team they beat during the year…
Let’s leave the West out of it….
Let’s just look at the Dawgs.. They are recruiting as best scripted as can possibly be… They are reloading when their 4-5. star players would be Juniors (expecting to leave for the NFL Draft).. Johnny Football gave you guys a false sense of hope.. Is A&M a Bowl worthy team every year? You betcha..Are they a 8-4/9-3 team every year? You betcha.. Will they ever sweep the West and go to the SECCG? You’re Batsh!t crazy!
And what school do you attend, Austin Community College?
It’s easy to hide behind that SEC logo, but your narrative has sip propaganda written all over it.
Beat Iowa State.. and have a season above .500 before trying to troll an Aggie board bro.
Nonstory….moving on…
Well, Arkansas would have been better staying in the SWC. The obvious problem that this doe-headed Journalist will never understand, is that you go where you have a fair shot, and even distribution of money. Most of the teams in the SEC would never understand the backroom deals, the referee’s all living in Austin, and 75-25 splits of revenue in favor of the University of Texas. The weakest conference will always be the one with UT in it, because you can never get a fair deal, or appropriate athletic revenue. Man do I HATE the University of Texas.
STFU and………GET OUTTA HERE YA STICKING LOSER SIP
Bonfire of uninformed. aTm won a Big 12 Championship in 1998, beating a very good Snyder-KState team in a close game. aTm has a clear history of recruiting o and d lines that are capable of winning National Championships, they have won 17 conference championships. There is no doubt that it’s just a matter of time before they win an SEC West and SEC Championship. Sumlin could do it but I think it’s more likely during the decade of the 2020s. As for the Longhorns and their print / tv media ?…. see no evil-hear no evil-speak no evil (just watch evil and like it). I mean, on what planet can one one program think it’s ok to have one conference member own the TV broadcasting? Bigger laugh, in 2007, before the gang of four rebellion, Texas paid themselves 10.1 million while Baylor got 7.1 million. According to Longhorn media Barking Carnival 2010, Nebraska and Missouri would only leave the Big 12, to get 12 million per year from the Big Ten, NOT BECAUSE they would get 100 million less over the length of the Big 12 agreement (here is where a sportswriter shows that you don’t have to pass 1st grade math to be able to spell and make complete sentences. What actually happened was the near equal SEC shares approached 30 million in 2015.
@ekinggill88… My profile says it all.. I DON’T have a team logo because my team is NOT in the SEC…I’m a fan of the conference and I add imput and reality to these columns…Lets see how well you did in Common Sense 101 in the Lego Block building….
The SEC is by far the best conference in FBS.. It wouldn’t matter if the PAC 12 (which they are itching to do) forms the 1st Super Conference with 16teams, they would never surpass the SEC teams..
Teams such as Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St, Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn and you can honorably mention Kentucky and Vanderbilt have carried the conference and will continue to do for at least the next 10 years..
When schools like Missouri and A&M join the conference, they are bringing in competitive talent which allowed them to take the Conference (both East & West) by storm when they arrived.. They walked into a bank with their names written on every blank check already signed. That’s why Coaches like Beliema and Muschamp can scream, we play a top 25 SoS every week when other teams play cupcakes..
Missouri and A&M are great schools with football tradition. But just because you play in the best league, doesn’t mean you’re one of the best teams..You’re riding the bus that Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee is driving..
So enjoy the revenue and limelight of being discussed every week by your opponents. Did you not know A&M and Missouri have been declared “Spoiler Teams”? Going from SEC Division champs to spoiler doesn’t say much..
If you ever think Missouri will play A&M in the SECCG, I would seek medical attention…AND FAST!
I stopped reading after “My profile says it all.. I DON’T have a team logo because my team is NOT in the SEC”….
Get a life!
It’s called loving College Football not loving College Station..
Loving something you can’t, in any shape or form be a part of?
That’s stalking….
Get a life bro!