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ESPN's FPI predicts outcome of Tennessee's remaining games
The Tennessee Volunteers suffered one of the worst losses of Week 1, falling 38-30 at home to Georgia State.
That’s a huge setback in a season that many expected the Vols to take a step forward and compete for a bowl berth. So, can Jeremy Pruitt’s squad turn things around quickly?
ESPN’s updated FPI ratings project the Vols to finish 4-8. Here are Tennessee’s expected win percentages for their remaining 11 games:
- vs. BYU — 72.9%
- vs. Chattanooga — 97.7%
- at Florida — 17.2%
- vs. Georgia — 14.9%
- vs. Mississippi State — 39.2%
- at Alabama — 4.3%
- vs. South Carolina — 49.7%
- vs. UAB — 93.9%
- at Kentucky — 34.4%
- at Mizzou — 41.8%
- vs. Vanderbilt — 71.5%
Obviously, 4-8 won’t make it to a bowl game. However, that South Carolina game is basically a toss-up. Can the Vols win that one, take care of business against the teams they’re supposed to beat and spring an upset along the way?
4.3% at Alabama? That’s a Group of 5 percentage for crying out loud!
Awfully optimistic, aren’t we?
Muschamp really does owe Pruitt a beer.
I’m a little surprised the chances are that high against BYU. If not for three turnovers, BYU would have been fairly close to Utah.
Lsumc I don’t know how you can say fulmer sabotaged Currie. Do you have some inside knowledge. I know the answer. Currie sabotaged himself and to say otherwise is just ignorant. Your posts sound more and more like just another troll.
You might want to read more on the subject instead of just defending your guy. You sure have whined a lot lately. Not surprising considering the state of your team. I didn’t hire Pruitt, a guy that can’t beat a 2-10 Sunbelt team. I didn’t pass on Leach, a guy that immediately turned around a poor Washington State team. Your guy Fulmer did that. Deal with it, and the comments that come with being the laughingstock of the conference. How’s that for trolling?
You didn’t provide evidence…
Just what I said moron. it’s idiots like you who believe whatever is published by people guessing or making things up. Quit reading the funny papers there isn’t much fact there.
So you have some different info? What would that be? Currie was in over his head. I’ll grant you that. But, Fulmer wanted him gone and his job. Is everyone that wrote this about Fulmer wrong? I’m not into the business of providing evidence. Just writing what was written by several others close to the program and with the national media. I guess a couple of anonymous guys on a sports website know more. Sure. Let’s go with that. Enjoy Pruitt, and the bottom of the East, again.
Honestly, what does it matter now? Here we are. You either continue to support the team or not. 1 game in and the world is predicting 0-12 season. They either need to grow some balls and get to work or roll over and take the beatings. Whatever happened happened.
He’s been nonstop trolling since the game, which is a bit of a departure from the past. It’s telling that he alleges Fulmer got Currie canned, when it’s well documented that his firing was a result of taking a KSU plane to hire Leach without leave to do so by the Board of Trustees. If he wants to delve into conspiracies, that’s fine, but it’s trolling to insult people who call out your argument as the baseless conjecture it is.
If you don’t think Fulmer played game of thrones to get Curry out, then you are delusional. He was out to get Curry ever since Curry beat him out for the AD job. But never mind that now. The real travesty is the fact Fulmer hired the least experienced coach in the search when our program was at it’s lowest point (then). Fulmer is a narcissistic egotist who is more concerned about protecting his “legacy” than anything else. Pruitt is a known hot headed narcissistic egotist who only had 7 years of D1 experience at three different schools. Each of those schools had excellent Head coaches and NFL quality rosters 2 deep. Pruitt is not what Tennessee needed…and Fulmer should have known better.
So you have zero evidence supporting this other than ad hominem insults? Let’s view this analytically. You’re alleging Fulmer is so incompetent at reading people for a job interview and not knowing how their personality and skills will impact the future that he hires Pruitt, yet he’s also a mastermind at reading others, manipulating others, and predicting how these individuals will react such that he gets hired into the AD role. See how this theory falls apart on its face?
Yes, let’s look at this “analytically.” Fulmer wants nothing more than to coach again. He’s interviewed in the past and was turned down. So he comes back to Knoxville where he still has enough clout to get back into the circle at UT. He tries for the AD job, but Curry is chosen over him. He plays the UT President to give him a “special advisor” position. This keeps him in the inner circle. Multiple times he and Curry have “cold exchanges” and Fulmer is critical and derogatory about Curry behind his back. In the meantime the same about Jones. Jones gets fired and Fulmer himself asks to be made interim coach. He is turned down. Meanwhile the coaching search goes on and Fulmer doesn’t like any of the candidates and makes his opinions clear. He also says that Curry is to blame. Curry flys out to see Mike Leach (and makes some admittedly bone head moves), and Leach is ready to sign (Washington St. confirmed this). Fulmer flys into the President’s office and exclaims that Leach is right for Tennessee or the SEC (never mind that Leach has set records as a coach at KY). Fulmer says Curry has gone rogue and pours gas in those flames that eventually consume Curry. But let’s get back to Leach. At that point Leach is only 22 all time wins behind Fulmer. Except for a N.C., Leach’s coaching resume’ is as good as Fulmer’s. Leach is also a media and endorsements darling. As well as a fan darling. So he would upstage Fulmer and most likely eventually past Fulmer in all time wins while at Tennessee. Leach also would not need or want Fulmer’s help. Fulmer can not let that happen. Curry is fired and Fulmer backdoors his way in AD. No Leach contract the first thing Fulmer does as AD. Now he has to find a coach…a coach that cannot upstage him…who will need and want his help. Bingo…enter Pruitt. Only 7 years experience as a DI assistant coach. Plus he’s been on Championship teams under Championship coaches. It looks so good on paper to the layman. Yet, truth be told he was with 3 teams in 7 years. Teams that had 3 deep NFL caliber talent with Championship Head Coaches. He’s perfect for what Fulmer is looking for. If he does well…Fulmer wins…if he does poorly, Fulmer fires him and makes his case to be coach again (his already made the comment “I’ll do it for free the first 2 years” multiple times). Hmmmmmm “for free.” Pretty attractive for a University that’s neck deep in buying out contracts. Plus a known fan, media and endorsements darling from Tennessee’s last real decade of power.
So thank you for making my argument about Fulmer “reading and manipulating others.” Ad hominem insults are not insults when they contain truth. Your logical fallacy played perfectly into this. Lastly, what evidence do you have to prove anything I have said…isn’t true. You being a Fulmer follower, isn’t enough. Fulmer is not what his public persona shows. Pruitt is not either. Nice try though.
Wow. You do realize when making an assertion that the burden of proof is on the person making the assertion? Tell me which article I should look up to see this info and I’ll admit I’m wrong. Tbh-this reads like something Alex Jones wrote as it’s got zero evidence and requires an inside knowledge that neither of us has. Lastly, what logical fallacy does my argument have, which you allege but don’t provide proof of? It’s funny how you and LSUSMC are short on evidence and then resort to calling me a Fulmer follower and delusional even though I haven’t defended or decried his tenure in my argument, I’m merely asking for proof.
Nice try though
Oh-is Fulmer still on the grassy knoll and did he film the moon landing while taking down the twin towers?
Lastly-should you change your name to VFLTruther?
Also, this type of behavior is nothing new for Fulmer. Let’s not forget what he did to Johnny Majors to get the HC job. I’ve watched Fulmer as a player and coach (Pruitt is the 11th Vol coach for me). Fulmer had some good years and bad years. I supported in those years. At the time, I actually didn’t think his firing was completely appropriate. However, since then Fulmer has shown some not so great colors. He is not the lovable “uncle Phil” he want people to believe.
Phil-is-my-personal-Jesus should be your ID. You’ve done nothing but defend him. You probably think Pruitt is a good coach and right hire.
It’s hilarious irony that you would accuse anyone of being a “troll” or “insulting.”
Prove my “conjecture” wrong. You can’t.
You’re part of the problem with some of our fan base.
A perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
It’s on you to provide evidence when making an argument. Basic rhetoric.
To wit: your story is wrong because Fulmer was abducted by aliens and replaced by a clone for the meeting. Prove me wrong-you can’t. This is literally your argument.
Now go back to reading Alex Jones
LOL…I just read your posts on other threads. You’re nothing but a sh*t stirrer. You say the same things over and over while talking out of both sides of your neck. I doubt you’re even a Vol fan (I truly hope not. If you are, you’re part of the problem). You’re nothing but cretin troll. “Basic rhetoric.” LOL. You truly are the poster child for Dunning-Kruger. You have no idea that the Socratic Method was used. All I had to do was get you to talk…
“You’re argument…to wit” is….you have nothing but “ad hominems.”
Now run along little trollsky…
The adults are talking.
(Now come back with even more troll tripe…you will. You’ve taken the bait every time.)
Mentions Socratic method-doesn’t even explain evidence backing his own argument.
All I had to do was keep asking for evidence and the ad hominems came flying
Bawhahahahahahaha!
Right on cue…as predicted.
Bawhahahahahahaha!
UGA needed late 4th quarter heroics to avoid being upset by Nichols St in Kirby’s first year, only to get hammered two weeks later by a bad Ole Miss team. LSU lost at home to Troy in Orgeron’s first full year. And Bama lost to Louisiana–Monroe in Saban’s first year. Bad losses are not uncommon during rebuilds and not all rebuilds look the same. Things will get better.
Also, after the GA State game I’m not sure if Tennessee’s chance in any game should be higher that 50%.
boxster those similarities may ring true but for me I find it hard to see so many wrong things being fixed. The biggest thing I didn’t see from this team was leadership. Nobody getting in players grills and showing anger, and trying to fire them up. that includes the coaches. This staff has been discussed as one of the best but they showed nothing. Pruitt himself was not energetic, demonstrative. Its not his style but he needed to show something to try to fire the team up. I thought the coaches were very disappointing. Ansley looked lost as to what to do as the D got beat play after play. Chaney called the game much like many UGA fans said he would. How do you not have a hint of a downfield passing game when WR is the strength of your team. I understand being conservative to start but after half time you have to throw that philosophy out the window and try to win. BYU will improve between week 1 and 2 just like we might and they get a couple extra days to prepare. I cant see how we compete with them. They got beat by a highly ranked team and lost more on turnovers than getting beaten in every phase of the game. I want to predict a big turnaround for UT but honestly see a double digit loss to BYU. If that happens Pruitt could lose the team if he hasn’t already. The jury is still out on Pruitt and the team but it will take a pile of evidence to overturn the current verdict outlook. The last thing UT fans want is another coaching search but lose to BYU and win no more than 2-3 games, if that, and I don’t know how you keep him. I guess you have to look at the flip side too. Beat BYU and Chattanooga and maybe you can pull out a 6-6 or even a 7-5 but anyone who watched that game Saturday has to have serious doubts.
If this were Pruitt’s first year you would have a point. But this is year two and the team has already been through 2 off-season routines. They should be much improved over last year.
Anyone still think that Mike Leach wouldn’t have been a better hire? This disaster is on Fulmer. So many Vol fans were excited when he sabotaged Currie and became the AD. I’m sure most will still defend him, but this isn’t the start to the season anyone expected.
Your statement is factually incorrect. As documented in numerous articles, Currie sat on the coaching search and was then told by the Haslam family (who got him the AD position) to push Schiano. The fans revolted and the deal collapsed. He then took a KSU plane without knowledge of the board of trustees and tried to negotiate a deal with Leach. They then fired him and cancelled the deal. Fulmer was then hired and, after being rejected by Doeren and Brohm, got Pruitt. There’s no definitive evidence showing Leach was on the table after Fulmer was hired. Pruitt is looking like a flop, but your assertion of Fulmer above is factually wrong.
I’d further point out that he’s done well in keeping Barnes, firing Holly, and giving Vitello a raise speak to his AD capabilities. Not that there’s a high bar for that role at UT, but the last several AD’s didn’t realize you have to spend money to make money and he’s at least willing to loosen the purse strings for coaches.
There are emails that came out and are now public record. There are also comments from Leach. My point remains. You still think y’all got the better hire. Pruitt seems to suck. I’m fine with y’all having him. I still think Leach is much much better.
There’s emails detailing Fulmer masterminding the downfall of Currie? That’s odd because I can’t seem to locate this. What I do see are news articles noting what I have mentioned above. Again, you’re failing to provide sources to your assertions (namely because it’s conjecture on your part). You’re also stating that the fanbase both has an opinion on Pruitt vs Leach and unanimously decided Pruitt is the best choice. Again, this is a false narrative contingent upon a strawman fallacy. You’re certainly welcome to your opinion on the hire, but the other assertions you make are factually incorrect.
Only delusional Tennessee fans can be supportive of this losing. I’m fine with it. The reaction from you and fuzzy is comical. I lived though terrible coaching hires for LSU throughout the 90’s. At least we got past it in a decade. You guys must think Pruitt can turn it around. We will see.
I’m not being supportive or not supportive, I merely asked for proof and you can only provide insults.
Oskie is a troll.
VFLTruther thinks Fulmer did 9/11
He also follows men around message boards-not creepy at all
Now tell us again oskie…
Who is it you’ve been trolling and insulting all over this site…oh wait…that would be “men.” Poor little trollski…
Bawhahahahahahaha!!
What’s your man crush on leach all about anyway. He!! You can say just about anybody seems like a better hire after Saturday.
Leach wins. I guess you guys have given up on that. So be it.
I see 7 or 8 WINS if this team AND THEIR FANS would stand up!!!!! One of them is THE FLORIDA GATORS!!!!
I am absolutely convinced that Tennessee can beat florida!!! Will they? I don’t know!!! But if it happens remember I told you it was possible!!!
Y’all beat auburn last year!!! You ended the season pretty well considering all things. You can let this ga state loss bury you or you can let it propel you!!!!! I’m a Georgia bulldogs fan anyway!!!
Go dawgs!!!!!!
King Negan
They got smacked by Missouri and Vanderbilt with a bowl bid on the line. That’s not ending the season well.
Why so many exclamation marks? And why type your screen name at the bottom of all your comments?
Those probabilities (as listed above) project a 5 win (actually, 5.4) season, not 4; this based on the probability concept of “expected value”.
Don’t think so? Ask you friendly Probability and Stats Professor and he will confirm.
VFL truth you throw out all these conspiracy theories and offer not one single shred of proof. There are just as many if not more stories that are the opposite of your stories. Why say sobething, especially so verbose, when it’s nothing more than your opinion. Same goes for LSUMC. He is stating his belief because he read a column years ago and evidently believes everything written but if you google enough you can find a written opine to confirm anything including fulmer participation in the fake moon landing.
As they’ve stated-it’s not a conspiracy and the burden of proof is on you to disprove their theories. Goes against everyone else’s understanding of logic, but that’s the world they live in. Also-you’re somehow a troll if you ask for evidence. Get ready to get followed around the site now.