Kevin Warren gave a wide-ranging interview to Bryant Gumbel for an episode of HBO’s Real Sports in which he outlined paying plays and further expansion of the Big Ten.

As the Big Ten commissioner explained, paying players is something that’s on the table along with conference expansion. The episode is set to air on Tuesday.

“Those (paying players) are things we have to resolve,” he said. “We have to. So I want to be part of this conversation & will be part of this conversation of what we can do to make this better.”

Asked if he could see 20 teams in the Big Ten, Warren said he could, and added, “I could see perpetual and future growth.”

His full comments will be interesting to hear as the college sports world continues to be a fluid experience for conference commissioners.