First and 10: Why Georgia should write the check and settle $40 million lawsuit
1. I don’t want to get on a soapbox, but …
This isn’t going away. It was only a matter of time before a sharp investigator and an aggressive trial attorney connected with a grieving family.
The big question: What’s the play for the University of Georgia?
Does it let a $40 million lawsuit brought by the father of former Georgia player Devin Willock — who died in January from a car crash that also took the life of Georgia staffer Chandler LeCroy and, according to police, included the involvement of former star defensive tackle Jalen Carter — play out for all to see? Or does it settle quickly to avoid a potential public undressing of its widely successful football program?
“There’s no lack of control for our program,” Georgia coach Kirby Smart said at a March press conference to kick off spring practice.
While that’s a fair statement from Smart’s perch, it’s also fair to address how we got here — and if mistakes were made by the program, and/or individually by players and a staffer.
Willock’s father, Dave Willock Sr., is suing the Georgia Athletic Association (the athletic arm of the university), and members of the GAA. The lawsuit names LeCroy, who police said was driving the vehicle that crashed with Willock as a passenger, and Carter, who was in a separate car and last month pled no contest to a charge of reckless driving and racing in connection with the incident.
The lawsuit zeroes in on the GAA’s nonprofit protection by stating the GAA waived its “charitable immunity” by purchasing insurance covering its employees and the “negligent entrustment” of a vehicle to LeCroy. The GAA, the lawsuit states, was negligent in hiring, supervising, training and retraining her employment — and that her actions as an individual and as a GAA employee endangered Willock.
The lawsuit also says GAA employees “were aware of LeCroy’s driving problems, and her drinking on Jan. 14, 2023.” The accident occurred in the early morning hours of Sunday, Jan. 15, when police said LeCroy was driving an SUV owned by the university, had twice the legal limit of alcohol in her system and her car was traveling at more than 100 mph.
WXIA-TV in Atlanta reported in late March that prior to the accident, LeCroy had 4 speeding tickets in 4 different counties — and that Bryant Gantt, Georgia’s director of player support and operations, attempted to get the fine reduced for the 4th of LeCroy’s tickets (given on Oct. 30, 2022).
While it’s not unusual to attempt to get fines reduced, Gantt’s attempt produces a direct line of knowledge about LeCroy’s history of driving problems to an employee of the GAA.
While the GAA said LeCroy was permitted to use the SUV for her job duties, she was not working at the time of the accident — and not authorized to use the car.
“No policy, or lack thereof policy, caused this accident,” Smart said in March.
The lines are clearly drawn. The university’s stance is an individual decision — including a decision to use a car that shouldn’t have been used — caused the tragedy.
It’s not that difficult to see what attorneys for Dave Willock will argue: GAA employees were aware of LeCroy’s driving history — and her drinking on the night in question — and that her ability to use GAA vehicles should’ve been eliminated before the deadly accident.
If this goes to trial, depositions and the trial itself could uncover skeletons for all involved: LeCroy, Willock, Carter and any GAA employee associated with the lawsuit.
What’s more important to Georgia: Fighting a lawsuit it may or may not win, or protecting an image and settling on a number that soothes all involved?
2. Unintended consequences
Let’s put this in real time perspective for the university and the football program — because they can’t be separated.
Does Smart really have time to prepare for depositions and a trial? Does he have time to sit with university attorneys and be coached on depositions, and what to say and what not to say?
On what specific words to specific questions could pull the GAA into legal limbo, and what specific words to specific questions will protect it? Better yet, do you want your $10 million a year football coach to be subjected to depositions and a trial — maybe even into and during the 2023 season?
Because if you think Smart won’t be deposed by Dave Willock’s attorneys and won’t be called to trial and drilled for hours by experienced trial lawyers, you’re not following along.
That deposition (and trial examination) begins with “what did you know of Chandler LeCroy’s driving history, and when did you know it?”
Because your director of player support and operations knew not long after Oct. 30, 2022, the date of LeCroy’s most recent ticket. If Gannt testifies that he didn’t tell Smart of LeCroy’s speeding history, the jury will then hear from attorneys for Dave Willock that Gannt and LeCroy played an important role in Georgia’s elite recruiting operation.
And those who play an important role in Georgia’s recruiting operation — which Smart has publicly said over and over is the key to winning — would be on Smart’s radar.
Even if LeCroy didn’t report directly to Smart, you better believe Smart’s director of player support and operations did. The jury would then have to believe that not only did Gannt — who prior to joining Georgia in 2011, worked for 19 years as a legal assistant, investigator and process server for the Athens law firm of Cook, Noel & Tolley — fail to report the speeding history to Smart, but that he tried to get the ticket reduced on his own.
Gannt’s job responsibilities, per the Georgia football official website, are “providing advice and counsel to student-athletes in areas related to life skills, personal accountability and development, and coordinating and facilitating programming relative to student-athletes.”
Smart’s explanation in March was this (and I’m paraphrasing): there were rules for when LeCroy could use the GAA SUV. She ignored them. No rule can stop someone who wants to break them.
Frankly, I agree with him. But that doesn’t mean a jury will, nor does it prevent Dave Willock’s attorneys from unearthing other embarrassing problems during depositions and trial.
3. The inevitable lawsuit, The Epilogue
Of course this was going to happen. A grieving family has lost a son, and a young man has lost his life.
Devin Willock would’ve started this season, and by all accounts, was ready to blossom into a dependable if not elite player. That means earning potential for NIL money in college and NFL money as a professional.
Let me reiterate: Depositions and a trial will be ugly and public. For Carter — whose timeline on the morning in question and strange absence from the scene will be dissected — for GAA employees who knew of LeCroy’s driving history, and for Smart and any other staff member with knowledge of LeCroy’s job duties.
Again, it’s not difficult to see where this thing goes, especially when reading the narrative of the lawsuit. Dave Willock’s attorneys could use other anecdotal evidence not connected with the incident — other player behavior problems in the past and how they were handled, and how it could have created a culture that impacted LeCroy’s decision to break rules and take the SUV — to build the framework of an out of control program.
Who knows if it could work, but why risk it? Why in the world would Georgia put Smart and the program through this process?
Find an amenable number, pay up, and move on for the good of all involved.
4. The D is back
Earlier this month during the Big Orange Caravan tour, Tennessee coach Josh Heupel said Tennessee will have an elite defense in 2023.
This was news because defense was optional in 2021 (33.6 ppg. in SEC games), and incrementally better in Year 2 under DC Tim Banks (26.9 ppg.).
But expect the elite defense narrative to evolve over the summer months and into SEC Media Days in July. Don’t be shocked when Heupel talks up his defense in 2 weeks during the SEC spring meetings Destin.
The reason: recruiting. The past 2 classes have upgraded a defense that was significantly impacted by transfers when Heupel arrived. The numbers are finally up, and more important, the talent level is, too.
Blue-chip recruit CB Jordan Matthews, 1 of 19 midterm enrollees from the 2023 recruiting class that was ranked No. 10 by the 247Sports composite, looked like a starter early on in spring ball. So did LB Arion Carter.
Tyre West, who can play inside and out on the defensive line, and edge Joshua Josephs — both from the 2022 class — will be competing for starting spots in fall camp.
Rickey Gibson, another blue-chip freshman corner, and sophomore edge Joshua Josephs will be critical rotation pieces. So will sophomore S Jourdan Thomas.
The numbers are there, and so is the speed and athleticism. Or as a Tennessee staffer told me, “Young dudes who look and play the part, and can run all over the field.”
5. The Weekly 5
Florida’s win total from our friends at FanDuel is 5.5. Not including rent-a-wins vs. McNese and Charlotte, the 4 best chances for the Gators reach the over:
1. Oct. 7, Vanderbilt: In theory, a lock. But Vandy won rather easily last year in Nashville.
2. Nov. 18, at Missouri: On roster alone, Gators should win. But it might be at the end of a brutal season.
3. Nov. 4, Arkansas: Maybe the Florida defense forces a few turnovers and gives the offense and QB Graham Mertz short fields.
4. Nov. 25, Florida State: 2 things: FSU is overrated, and an average Florida team could’ve won last year’s game in Tallahassee.
5. Sept. 30, at Kentucky: A reach, at best. UK has won 3 of the past 5 games between the teams — and it has been a physical matchup nightmare for Florida.
6. Your tape is your resume
An NFL scout analyzes an NFL Draft-eligible SEC player. This week: Arkansas RB Raheim Sanders.
“The 1 thing that kind of gets overlooked is he’s big guy. He’s all of 6-2, 225-ish pounds. And he can move. He gets to the 2nd level, and forget it. He’s averaging almost 6 yards a carry in his career, and he was getting almost 20 (carries) a game last year. He has the ability to push the pile, too. He’s a hard runner, but I’d love to see more wiggle, more make-you-miss.”
7. Powered Up
This week’s Power Poll, and 1 big thing: If the SEC punts on 9 games — a big if — the best 1 permanent opponent for each team in the 1-7 model.
1. Georgia: Florida. The Cocktail Party is the 1 game in the SEC that is played on the same weekend, at the same time — every season.
2. LSU: Oklahoma. Tigers lose out on rivals Alabama, Florida and Texas A&M — and are left with a strong option.
3. Tennessee: Kentucky. Makes geographical sense, and prevents a blue-blood program from earning an annual gimme putt (Vanderbilt).
4. Alabama: Auburn. A no-brainer. The best rivalry in the SEC.
5. Texas A&M: Texas. It’s a new league, fellas. Handle your differences on the field. You’re playing each other every season, like it or not.
6. Kentucky: Tennessee. A huge win for the Wildcats, who keep a bitter rival instead of getting placed with a make believe one (South Carolina).
7. Ole Miss: Mississippi State. Don’t ever, ever, ever — did I say ever? — move it again from Thanksgiving night.
8. Arkansas: Missouri. Texas would’ve been fun. So, too, would LSU or Texas A&M. Missouri is the fallback.
9. Mississippi State: Ole Miss. We all understand the word ever, right?
10. South Carolina: Vanderbilt. Gamecocks are in a bit of a geographical no man’s land. The 1-7 format likely eliminates permanent games against Florida and Tennessee (in a 3-6 format).
11. Florida: Georgia. Florida fans used to convince themselves that Tennessee or Florida State were bigger rivals. Suddenly, Georgia is everything again.
12. Auburn: Alabama. Imagine being Auburn, and 2 of your 3-6 format permanent opponents are the 2 best programs in the SEC (Alabama, Georgia).
13. Missouri: Arkansas. The 1st permanent fit for Missouri is the 4th fit for Arkansas.
14. Vanderbilt: South Carolina. The 1st choice is Tennessee, the 2nd is Florida. South Carolina is way down the list — but there’s no avoiding the last chair when the music stops.
Oklahoma: LSU. What in the world does Oklahoma have to do with LSU? Nothing — other than potentially great games every season.
Texas: Texas A&M. The Longhorns and Aggies have bigger fish to fry — like finding a way to win a conference championship for the first time in more than a decade (Texas) or 25 years (Texas A&M).
8. Ask and you shall receive
Matt: Is there anyone left in the transfer portal that can help Auburn generate some offense? — Richard Collins, Birmingham.
Auburn just added QB Payton Thorne from Michigan State, and a natural fit would be his star WR from the Spartans, Keon Coleman (58 catches, 13.8 ypc, 7 TD in 2022). Ole Miss is also pursuing Coleman, who could still return to Michigan State.
Other than that, there’s not much out there that can impact the Auburn offense, or bring greater value than what’s already on campus. Gary Bryant Jr. (USC) committed this week to Oregon, and that leaves a couple of projects — WR JaQuae Jackson, of D-2 California University of Pennsylvania (77 catches, 15 TDs in 2022), and North Texas WR Jyaire Shorter (27.3 ypc., 11 TDs, on only 23 catches in 2022) — who could bring value.
The 1 legit difference-maker left uncommitted is Zakhari Franklin (262 catches, 37 career TDs in 4 seasons) of UTSA, and his recruitment has been strangely quiet since he entered the portal late last month.
The idea now is to focus on Thorne, and how quickly he can be brought up to speed on the offense. He regressed last season at Michigan State, but so did a majority of the team. If he returns to 2021 form, that more than anything will help Auburn generate offense.
41. Nick Saban says he likes the leadership accountability throughout this year’s Alabama team.
He better, because with the uncertainty at quarterback, the last thing Alabama needs is another undisciplined team in big games. In 4 losses over the past 2 seasons (Tennessee, LSU, Georgia, Texas A&M), the Tide committed 41 penalties — for an average of 10 a game.
In those 4 losses, 14 of the 41 penalties were personal foul calls — of which 11 were pass interference. Pass coverage is all about technique and disciplined preparation.
10. Quote to note
Kentucky coach Mark Stoops, on changes this spring: “I just think overall, the mentality, the hunger, the way you go about your business, with attitude or an edge, this game is meant to be played that way. You can’t go out there and go through the motions. That’s on all of us, coaches and players.”
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“4. Alabama: Auburn. A no-brainer. The best rivalry in the SEC.”
Not sure how that is not number one.
He’s not ranking the rivalries; the rankings are by how he has the teams ranked at this point in the year.
I made $18,625 last month working online from home in my part-time n78. Anyone can get this job now and start earning 0 online just by following the details here.
It’s not a ranking, and no it’s not. they skipped that game for decades.
Auburn and Alabama is possibly the best rivalry in the nation. No matter how good one of the teams is ( usually Alabama, but not always) I never am completely sure what will happen until the game is played. The Auburn home games are always a madhouse. There is nothing like the atmosphere of this game.
“12. Auburn: Alabama. Imagine being Auburn, and 2 of your 3-6 format permanent opponents are the 2 best programs in the SEC (Alabama, Georgia).”
Imagine? AU’s played both since the 1890s.
You’re such a f–king ghoul, Matt Vile Libel Hayes.
Considering the amount of actual libel that you’ve flung Kirby’s way over the years, I’m sure the UGA AA will take your advice with the legitimacy it deserves, you absolute ‘turd POS.
Hayes premise is pretty accurate though…time for UGA to settle and get this behind them. Fighting the lawsuit will make it worse.
The longer this Lawsuit drags on the more negative publicity the Dawgs program receives. Since all lawsuits concerning the death of someone are solely about $$$$$…Dawg Admin. just negotiate it out of court and move on.
I understood also that Carter was driving on a Suspended License. A likely Civil Suit could be coming his way from the LeCroy family also. What a beautiful cover up UGa…
You really think the University of GA covered this up? UGA has a nice law school. You REALLY think UGA would cover that up?
No, they would never.. how silly of me to even suggest…
What is silly of you to suggest is that a Civil Suit from the Lecroy family against Carter is “likely”…. You mean the family of the person that had a history of speeding, was twice the legal limit, and traveling over 100 MPH has a leg to stand on in court? You have reached a new level of idiocy….
The vi ctim here is LeCroy, who is now passed. There is a case, especially on someone potentially caused the wreck that was driving on a suspended license. Your id iocy has exceeded all expections…
1943 oh wait only team to field a SEC football team , while the others were fighting
“The vi ctim here is LeCroy”
You must have missed the part about her blood alcohol level being twice the legal limit
You do realize many of those players went on to fight, right? But hey, we.ve been at war 20 years now. Guess I missed you in Kandahar, eh Braves? What a chickenhawk. Always ready to criticize others without actually serving. That you Lloyd Bonified? Let me guess, you watched Blackhawk Down so that’s just as good.
And you going to complain about claiming a title when a majority of the rating agencies proclaimed you as the champs? Lets talk about 1967 lol. And why weren’t you in DaNang
Still trying to figure out how UGA went 0-3 in the SEC in 1943 when, according to the above poster, they were the SEC school to field a team?
You’re an absolute moron. You literally only think it was Carter’s fault cause he didn’t die. He wasn’t drinking. Just driving fast just like the other car, he just wasn’t the one that crashed. Lecroy was supposed to be the responsible adult in the situation who should not have been driving drunk, let alone trying to race. That’s why she crashed, not because of Jalen Carter. Get over it, we’re not better than UGA
“Imagine being Auburn”
Imagine being a fan of a university that you did not attend nor graduate from? Scary thought.
Hey now Ron. These schools would be missing out on a lot of money if that was the rule.
I root for Georgia, did not attend Georgia, but I’ll die before I yell WDE without some direct reward attached to it.
Pat Dye was not allowed to root for Auburn after he retired in any game. After all, he didn’t go to school there.
Air tight logic.
“After all, he didn’t go to school there.”
He worked there, ma’am. He was a paid employee.
The “only students and graduates can be fans” argument is a really, really stupid one.
To be clear I am not attacking you as a person Ron with this just your point, but I agree with 98. That is a really stupid point and a terrible hill to die on.
“The “only students and graduates can be fans” argument is a really, really stupid one.”
Not really. It separates the the good from the bad.
See: Harvey Updyke
Everyone else is just bandwagon.
Ronny Mexico likes to try to shame some fans by pointing out that they are not graduates of the university that they root for. That is total BS. I have an MBA from UGA . That doesn’t make me more of a fan than my best friend who graduated from Mercer. Another friend and huge UGA fan served in the Marines instead of college. Are these people less of a fan than me? He ll no. Insecure people feel the need to put down and insult people to hide their own insecurities. Don’t take the bait. If you didn’t graduate from the school you root for, WHO CARES besides an Auburn troll. You are still a great fan.
Ronny acts like his Auburn degree is his life’s crowning achievement and it actually was from Harvard. Hilarious.
If someone feels the need to tell you how smart they are, then they usually aren’t that smart
I think he tries too hard. Very likely not a graduate himself.
I agree Unclenutzz. I don’t believe, or care, that Ronnie is an Auburn grad. It’s just a way for him to be argumentative and a jerk.
“Or does it settle quickly to avoid a potential public undressing of its widely successful football program?”
It may be best to leave this up to people who understand how laws work.
“Why Georgia should write the check and settle $40 million lawsuit”
Is Matt Hayes a lawyer now?
may as well be…not like he’s a journalist
Ron, it’s easy to give away someone else’s money, especially when you believe (in your sócialist heart) that they have too much of it.
The case could be settled for much less than the $40M asked for in damages.
And for the sake of the Georgia brand, it should be settled.
Get ready SEC, the UT Defense will be markedly better and people look to be sleeping on them at the moment. Even to bring the PPG from 26.9 to low 20’s would be a huge win for a team that will average in the high 30 to low 40’s on offense per game. The Defense will help carry this team in 2023.
And you base this on?
Braves1471…the words Tennessee Football and Defense should not be used in the same sentence.
But true. Until the Vols can field at least a decent “D” the comment is valid.
The UT defense will help carry the team right to the Outback Bowl.
You mean where you lost to Purdue in 2000?
“There’s no lack of control for our program.”
No one ever feels the need to say this unless, you know …
Unless you know…you were asked.
Except the question – from the transcript – was regarding ‘proper oversight’.
‘Hey, did someone screw up?’
“WE ARE NOT OUT OF CONTROL!!!”
Yeah … that convinces me …
You’re not convinced?
what …what do you think proper oversight means….
I am genuinely curious.
Because the judges, attorneys and compliance officials won’t be either.
Just what I said.
A failure of oversight can be as simple as one person with supervisory responsibility screwing up once. ‘It shouldn’t have happened. We should have caught that.’ In fact, this seems to be what the reporter meant, essentially, ‘Will you admit someone screwed up?’
Of course, Kirby can admit no wrong, so his overreaction was very telling.
Good answer = ‘Clearly. And processes are in place and currently working to get to the bottom of it.”
Poor answer = ‘WE ARE NOT OUT OF CONTROL!!!”
Lack of institutional control is well-defined in enough places that even you should be able to figure it out.
You guys are so defensive because you know what all these signs indicate. And it ain’t good.
You’re delusional because you can’t beat us.
You can’t in one breath say “we messed up and processes are in place” and in the other breath maintain “she violated the rules in place, but there were rules in place”
JFC you’re contradicting yourself.
Also I find it funny people attack and then are like “you guys are so defensive” ….?
mlc808 talking out his arse like he practices law. LMAO.
Including Carter in the suit just seems like a slimy money grab. UGA is probably going to settle on a much lower amount. Putting all the blame on a dead employee that can’t defend themselves is a bad look. They probably don’t won’t attorneys digging through University texts and emails. It might lead to some burner phones or bigger issues.
Carter is the most innocent person in the entire thing. He was driving in a completely different car and did not cause the crash and was not drunk. Lecroy was wasted, that’s why she crashed and died
UGA having character issues? That could never happen… must be false.
Henry Ruggs says Hi (From Prison)
Really? You, an Alabama fan, are going to bring up character issues?
“UGA having character issues? ”
Uh…..you want to talk about Bama baseball and basketball?
I remember when Alabama fans could talk about results on the field.
LOL baited 3 UGA fans and an Auburn fan… every team has character issues. Can’t throw stones in glass houses.
Lol I baited an Alabama fan to reply to my reply
Uh, I responded to my own comment. Not to yours. Your reply had no effect on mine.
Bet you wish you had bait that good when it came to reeling in QB’s lately.
Can’t wait when Sayin turns out better than Raiola!
“LOL baited 3 UGA fans and an Auburn fan”
The word “baited” doesn’t mean what you think it means, clown.
Also, a fan and grad of AU.
Look at me!! Look at me!!!. I’m a college graduate!!!!!
My bad, I’ll try not to make such a foolish mistake next time.
Henry Ruggs was drunk driving 150 MPH when he slammed into the back of that lady’s car. Burton slapped a female. Basketball player killed someone and another player supplied him with the gun. You really wanna talk about character issues?
The lawsuit names several defendants. Carter, the bar, the rental car company, LeCroy, and a host of others. But UGA should pay the entire lawsuit. Got it.
Florida State may be overrated in the grand scheme of things, but they are still orders of magnitude better than the current Gator team. Homer take by a Gator homer.
And yet they won last year by a possession at Doak. Hmmm.
They won, beat LSU and I’m gonna go uo on a limb and say they’d have handled Vanderbilt.
FSU has a quarterback. Florida has…well…something.
FSU has a quarterback. Florida has…well…something.
Dumb and Dumber is what I think you are looking for here.
M&M ……Mistake & Mo’Ron
At least Billy has built infrastructure
Florida has… The Mertzinator and his band of Fighting Gators, who will decimate the Holes and bury them in The Swamp!
FSU didn’t beat LSU, LSU beat themselves. I believe that LSU hands it to them this season. Also, fsu barely beat Florida last season.
About QBs, I agree with StL. :)
I think UGA would probably lose this under negligence if the assumption is true that they were aware of her driving history and still allowed her to operate vehicles. Whether she had rules for it or not, won’t matter because the implication is if you knew of her driving history she shouldn’t have access to the car ever. So UGA will probably settle out of court.
Now including Carter in it seems weird? I can see how legally he could have contributed to the crash, but still..if LeCroy was alive, would she be the target or would it still be Carter?
I’m sure it won’t be too difficult for a skilled attorney to implicate Carter to the accident sense he and Lecroy were both involved in criminal activity at the moment of the crash that resulted in the loss of life.
I …don’t know the point of your reply?
“I can see how legally he could have contributed to the crash, “
volzdeep…Carter implicated himself the moment he was road-racing. There is no denial of that fact. That fact will hold up in any court of law. He could have been charged with manslaughter for road-racing, in which someone in the other car died.
Would never stick, it was an accident caused by the drivers actions who chose to street race under the influence. Carters actions did not cause the accident. LeCroy made the reckless decision for all in that vehicle. Carter could not make LeCroy race him. It was Lecroy’s sole decision bc she was the driver. They don’t give speeding tickets to the guy riding shotgun telling the driver to go faster! “Vicarious Liability” can be tricky, considering LeCroy was under the influence is committing a crime, in most cases that relieves the company of any liability.
Jalen Carter did absolutely nothing that resulted in a loss of life cause he DIDNT CAUSE THE CRASH
Its called implied malice and all drivers involved in the race are charged with varing degrees of culpability. Carter is not in a good situation that will cost him a lot of money.
It’s not gonna cost him a cent in fact Jeff Lurie might pay it for him
My question when it comes to Lecroy was she a salaried employee? Because there isn’t an on the clock off the clock when you are providing services for your employer. Was she instructed to be driver for day for whoever needed it and was never technically relieved of her duties? Did she come in contact with any superiors at any engagements where alcohol was present? Did she consume any alcohol at engagements where superiors were present? These are questions UGA will have to be careful with because there will be lots of witnesses, including the other staffer that was with her in the car.
Anyway back to Football. I suspect the Tenn defense to improve and the offense to take a step back. I can see them losing two relatively easily though, depends on what Bama does at QB and if Spencer Rattler continues where he left off.
I think the iron bowl is the best rivalry in the SEC.
That being said, I enjoy the egg bowl more.
jay, don’t put all of your eggs in an iron bowl?
The Cocktail Party if UF gets off its butt is one of the best rivalries in all of CFB.
It is one of the most fun, but it doesn’t have much of a history for being close. Generally one team owns the other one for years until the pendelum shifts. Georgia had the 80’s, Florida the 90’s and early 2000’s, Georgia now. The down team is typically good for a win or 2 a decade.
It won’t be close again until
1. Billy is gone
2. Billy gives up the offensive play calling and I do mean “offensive”
3. Billy gets a real quarterback (We have Emory Jones II coming in)
4. Kirby goes to the nfl
Thank you. This is what an outlier deserves.
Nice QB get from the Pac-12/10 footprint.
The beat goes on.
Dixie, exactly what Dawgs2021 said.
It’s never really a competitive game. Even when the down team comes out on top it’s rarely a nail biter. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy WLOCP but from an unbias standpoint I’m always entertained by the egg bowl.
But I’ve been to the Iron bowl as an Auburn grad student and ….that atmosphere is intense.
Jay agreed about the atmosphere of the IB. And I will add that it is much more unpredictable than any other rivalry in the SEC. Especially at Jordan Hare where there is strange voodoo that happens pretty often.
Strange voodoo is right! Kick Six may always be Nick Saban’s worst call EVER. What possessed him to do that???
ga should and definitely will settle and pay up. $40M actually sounds like a bargain for a mans life based on the circumstances as they have been described but it will be settled for less.
The UT defense will have a very difficult time being elite but he was speaking to a large group of fans on a caravan stop, so hes playing to the crowd. I do think the secondary will be a little better and overall the D has a chance to be significantly better. Overall I believe the D will be better and the O will not be quite as good but if the O line plays well and Joe plays smart and is as accurate as his last couple games we could have a special season again, maybe even make it to the sec CG. Just have to let it play out and see.
Don’t get me wrong, I want the 9 conference game model, and I want to play t.u. every year (although I did not want them in the conference), but there is absolutely no way in an 8 conference game model that t.u. and OU don’t play every year.
Amen, Aggie. 9 conference games would be bending over for the lesser teams in the conference.
A player who matriculates and plays 4 seasons would miss several “conference” teams. Would you have a conference or a collection of teams simply satisfied with more media money?
A bad move with a 12-team playoff coming. The strength of a team’s schedule might actually matter, even for the mighty SEC, when considering a team for one of the 6 at large spots.
But staying at 8 would be typical of America today where excellence takes a back seat to giving everyone a participation trophy.
Sorry, Aggie, I meant to say 8 conference games would be the tail wagging dog, not 9.
I agree. I think the conference should go to 9 games, but as JTF mentioned below, they have to come to a financial agreement with ESPN to do that. I expect that to happen. But, if it stays at 8, I would expect for Texas and OU to be paired up and LSU to be with the Aggies, even though I can see the reasoning behind what was mentioned here. The conference may want to marry them up with current members, and it really depends on which game the conference and ESPN think is the most appealing, Texas vs Texas A&M or Texas vs OU.
Pay something but not $40 million.
I don’t know a huge number of details, but based on what little i am aware of, UGA would be morons to settle. you stink hayes.
the fact that you have 16 entries for eight games backs up my opinion. They are conference games, just list the matchups, you basically have them twice and we won’t get into the fact that the red river rivalry would be THAT game for our stepbrothers.
Isn’t Lecroy as the driver and extremely drunk and AN ADULT, young yes but grown, the most culpable party.
She was also an employee and was drinking at an official function, driving a university car, and possibly working in an official capacity during the time of the wreck.
Official event? Toppers?
If she was instructed to be with the players the entire day and night official or unofficial event is irrelevant
If being the word
It was most certainly not an official function. She was also not working any official capacity at the time, and did not have university permission to use the vehicle at that time.
This information has been available to the public since approximately five hours after the wreck.
And why would a “recruiting analyst” be “instructed” to be with players who were a redshirt sophomore and junior?
They were hanging out socially. There was nothing “official” about their evening except for the SUV, which she broke rules to drive that night.
Provided the allegations of her having previous tickets while driving UGA vehicles, and there is proof that the university is aware because they attempted to get one of her fines reduced would seem to put the university in a position of increased liability. But I’m no lawyer.
Most of what you said is not accurate.
bulldog…Yes Lecroy is culpable…..but without the other car racing them, would the speed have been that excessive ? It is highly doubtful.
First, what has that got to do with UGA and whether they are liable? Second, well I guess there is no second, you make no sense
Really, 16 teams and 8 conference games?
Following the chicken spit ACC which is playing 8 because it enables Notre Dame to stay independent.
Oklahoma plays LSU every season but not Texas?
The best football conference in the USA is going to let the tail wag the dog because Kentucky and others want to go 6-6 and be bowl eligible.
If I am an SEC season ticket holder playing 8 conference games and a donut hole out of conference would tick me off.
If you want attendance to continue to decline, play 4 nobodies OOC.
This is the only issue I can think of where the SEC has to man up and play 9 conference games like the B1G, B12, and ACC.
May center around whether ESPN is willing to increase the media rights for the additional games.
This Gator says UGA should NOT pay a dime of the cash grab by the family until it plays out through the legal system.
“Willock will argue: GAA employees were aware of LeCroy’s driving history — and her drinking on the night in question”
I’d say that Devin Willock was much more aware of LeCroy’s “drinking on the night in question”than GAA employees were.
I agree that UGA should pursue some type of settlement. But this newest version of the lawsuit goes after many others outside the UGA footprint. When Mr. Willock originally said he had no plans to sue the university, I assumed all parties were probably working on a private behind-the-scenes settlement to head off a suit. If that happened, clearly the effort failed. Its unlikely the university would assume all blame and stroke a check for 40 mil. Not gonna happen.
Pretty sure that was prior to all the details coming out, especially the racing element and the Blood alcohol
Information, documents, and records gathered from depositions and discovery don’t automatically become public information. Hayes is putting too much importance on that one facet of the potential trial. Regardless of what Hayes offered in this overly simplistic analysis, UGA is likely to settle this case.
I expect there to be a reasonable settlement on the part of UGA. It will be confidential and the public will never be told the amount. Hopefully, this happens soon.
LSUSMC…5 Million $$$$$ should do it.
The Florida segment is very interesting. I don’t see UF hitting the over. I think they will only be favored in four games, and I’m not even sure about at Missouri. The Gators could certainly pull an upset or two, but I think most betters will take the under.
Come on Marine …you’re better than that. That is the easiest bet. Take the over. I think the last 3 games have influenced this negative outlook. They still have more talent than 8 teams on the schedule. And outside of UGA and the uninspired bowl game they were competitive in the losses. UF will definitely win more than 5 games.
We shall see. I’m certainly interested to find out. I have nothing against Florida and have definitely enjoyed the UF-LSU rivalry. I live in Florida and my middle daughter graduated from UF.
Regarding the GA lawsuit, I agree with the article. They should quickly and quietly settle. I am sure there is a liability insurance policy somewhere that will cover a lot of the payout.
8 game schedule doesn’t seem practical at all. A 9 game format seems to handle most rivalries and grievances. Though, some of the 9 game “pod” models that have circulated seem weird. This is just my take …
1- UF, UGA, USCe, KY
2- Bama, AU, Tenn, Vandy
3- Ole Miss, MSU, LSU, TAM
4- TX, OK, Ark, Mizz
Of course not everyone would be happy but it’s just how I would group it up.
I don’t think pods are really a consideration any more. The 9 conference game format would feature three permanent rivals and then rotate the other 12 teams on a 6 and 6 basis. Things could certainly change though.
“Things could certainly change though.”
This is about the only thing that is certain with the whole mess.
The 3-6 schedule IS a “pod”, it’s just a dumb thing to call it, and I imagine there are a couple of games they want to keep that the pod system wouldn’t allow. Like maybe ole miss and state share opponents like LSU and auburn but LSU doesn’t play auburn and auburn plays UGA annually. The four division model ( done with “pods”) simplified that scheduling but some program with pull or a look at projected numbers might have them wanting some flexibility.
The 3-6 is not a pod. In a pods, a group of teams would all play each other.
Dude, reread my post.
Not only that, but Stetson Bennett just spent 6 years in college (4 @UGA) and still hasn’t graduated, Lmao.
No doubt one of Kirby’s priorities was getting weekly updates on the driving habits of low level employees. The writer is totally correct. It’s obvious.
“Couch, about the big time recruit—“
“Let me stop you right there. Before we get sidetracked by trivial things that don’t matter none, update me on the driving of some of our low level employees. This is where I choose to focus my attention. Also, my jumpy jump lessons.”
Can we PLEASE quit trying to force this Arkansas – Missouri rivalry? No one outside the SEC offices and media thinks there’s a rivalry. The fan bases are largely ambivalent about each other.
Just about everyone feels that way about Missouri and y’all are the closest. Enjoy.
Exactly right. It’s a good game, don’t get me wrong…. But it’s not better or worse than KState, Nebraska, Iowa State, the Oklahomas, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc. I think the State of Missouri touches more states than any other US State, it’s natural to wonder who has a better team this year, the home team or the neighbors.
May Devin Willock rest in peace but if he had been wearing his seat belt he might still be alive today.
Regarding point #7…
I thought the 1-7-7 format was out! Is that something that’s still on the table? I thought 3-6-6 was basically a lock.
I’ll give you some first hand experience on Div. I and II University vehicle use. 1. They want staff in University vehicles for numerous reasons. 2. It’s not unusual for the assignment of vehicles to be scrutinized near or in the ADs office and this story should illustrate why!
3. It doesn’t take an accident near this tragic to create serious problems for a Univ. 4. Court jurisdictions decide these cases. If the case gets heard at home, how do you think the outcome is going to be affected?
Having vehicles accessible to characters described in this story is like the loudest alarm buzzer I could have imagined. A lot of people here could be held liable and negligent, not just the the University.
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Once again, Matt Hayes shows himself to be one of the dumbest sports writers out there. Why should UGA fight the lawsuit? Because they weren’t in the wrong and $40 million is a ton of money. Kirby doesn’t have two hours to sit down for a deposition? What are you smoking? LeCroy was driving a university vehicle unauthorized, she was racing, the unfortunate tragedy was 100% on her. Willock’s lawyers are looking to take advantage of a horrible tragedy and are preying on a grieving family, UGA should fight this like hell.
It’s saddening when Georgia fans claim they or the program are ‘being attacked’ when these issues are discussed.
Hey, guys … not every program racks up a body count.
There are legitimate and serious questions to be answered about just what exactly is going on in Athens, and the fact that hurts your fee-fees because it may paint your alma mater (or randomly selected favorite) in an unflattering light doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be asked or that asking them is unfair.
Kirby & Co are closer to the beginning of dealing with this issue than the end.
I actually agree – I would rather lose Vandy than Kentucky as a rival.