SDS Mailbag: Best ACC fit for the SEC, overused songs, Auburn expectations and alternate College World Series locations
It’s Memorial Day Weekend, y’all! Fire up those grills, get those backyards ready, grab plenty of beer and kick off the summer right!
I hope it’s nice weather for everyone and you’re able to get outside a little bit to enjoy the long weekend. Stay safe, y’all!
Now let’s dive into this week’s Mailbag questions before we get the 3-day weekend started:
Michael:
If the ACC ended up imploding, but the SEC could only add 1 school from the conference, which would it want most?
There are a number of attractive options out there, obviously, from North Carolina to Virginia Tech to Clemson, Florida State and Miami.
But, to me, the clear No. 1 option is Florida State. Proud football tradition, a men’s basketball team that usually is pretty good, etc. The Seminoles have a built-in rival in Florida, also. In terms of generating revenue, I think that FSU is a pretty good bet.
Other schools may offer the opportunity to move into new TV markets, but the SEC is already a popular product from coast to coast, so there’s no real benefit in adding a Virginia, for example, over Florida State for TV purposes.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the ACC over the next few years. At this point, it seems more likely than not that the league will implode before 2036. We’ll see what the future holds, though.
Ron:
What song gets played too much at football games?
This past year, it was definitely “Narco” by Blasterjaxx and Timmy Trumpet. Yes, it’s a cool song and yes, it’s really cool when New York Mets closer Edwin Diaz uses it as his warmup song.
But I like when schools have their own signature songs. “Sandstorm” is forever associated with South Carolina. “I Won’t Back Down” by Tom Petty is the coolest new tradition at Florida. “Rocky Top” is synonymous with Tennessee. “Neck” (RIP) was LSU’s thing. Outside of the SEC, “Jump Around” is a big deal at Wisconsin.
I know there are more out there, so don’t get mad at me in the comments section.
I like when a school can make a song its own. Heck, even Mizzou has “Welcome to the Jungle” pretty much to itself when the Tigers run out before games. I want more of that and less generic hits being played just because.
Make me the college football commissioner and I’ll assign one pump-up song to each FBS school that no other schools can use.
Wayne:
What’s a realistic record to expect from Auburn in Year 1 under Hugh Freeze?
Well the good news for the Tigers is they have a pretty easy nonconference schedule this fall. Yes, they have to take a trip out to Berkeley to face Cal, but other than that (and frankly, even with that), things are pretty manageable.
I see them going 4-0 against Cal, UMass, Samford and New Mexico State. So now we just need 2 more wins to become bowl eligible.
They play at Vanderbilt on Nov. 4. Even on the road, that should be a win for Freeze and company. I also think they can beat fellow first-year head coach Zach Arnett and Mississippi State on Oct. 28 at Jordan-Hare Stadium.
So there’s 6 wins. That’s a bowl game. I think that’s a realistic goal for Freeze in Year 1. It’s going to take 2-3 years to return Auburn to the 8-9 wins per year or more level. The SEC West is brutal, as always, so going 6-6 or 7-5 should be satisfying for Auburn fans this season.
@Dobbe8:
If the College World Series couldn’t be held in Omaha for some reason, where would you like to see it held instead?
This is a great question, but let me start by saying I think the College World Series is perfect in Omaha. It’s a great ballpark and Omaha goes all-out for the event.
I wouldn’t want it to be held in an MLB ballpark. This is an event that deserves its own space and its own prestige.
That significantly narrows down our options, but I still have 3 places that could work. First, and the one I think I like best, is the new Field of Dreams park in Iowa. I’m not sure if the area has enough going on to host all those ravenous college baseball fans, but if they could find a way to make it work, that is a really nice park and it’d be really fun to see the CWS there.
My other two options are Hoover, which hosts the SEC Tournament and does a great job of it, and the Little League World Series stadium in Williamsport, Pennsylvania.
The problem with Hoover is that teams from every other conference would cry SEC bias, and in this case, they might actually have a point. Williamsport is actually a solid option, especially since there is a ballpark there with MLB dimensions.
But, once again, Omaha is great. Let’s leave the College World Series alone for now!
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I expect Auburn to get to bowl eligibility. Chalk rarely happens, so I would even expect an upset win somewhere in there. I just hope it isn’t against us. As far as expansion goes, I have absolutely no interest in that. I don’t see the advantage of that.
I agree and think Auburn will get to at least 6 wins this season. I will say that @ Vandy game won’t be a cake walk. Vandy beat 2 fairly decent teams in UF and UK last year that are on the same level as Auburn could possibly be this year.
” I think that’s a realistic goal for Freeze in Year 1. It’s going to take 2-3 years to return Auburn to the 8-9 wins per year or more level. ”
That is very realistic.
Clemson and FSU both would be good additions, but I think the SEC will eventually bring in a few ACC schools, including UNC. The main reason is to keep up with the B1G, which isn’t finished expanding. It’s going to happen, just a question of when. We have Sankey’s comments about keeping future expansion within the region, coupled with the seven ACC schools looking for ways to leave the ACC. More than coincidence.
Since Clemson and FSU are both in-state rivals to current SEC schools, I don’t see a pathway into the conference, nor does it add to the footprint. I think UNC is the only choice. It serves a massive television market in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area and UNC competes in all three of the major sports. Virginia Tech is in a very small market area and no chance they will be given a sniff.
i’m with you, but i’d more say that unc is the best choice, as opposed to the only choice. as you said, unc brings the untapped market and is very competitive in all three sports…while a change to the sec could likely give them a considerable boost too. while we’re at it, if our greatest perceived conf rival seems to have a preference in taking them over others, why not spoil their plans and take what they most want?
also, it’s no secret that the conf could use a boost from an academic standpoint. taking either clemson or fsu would be more of the status quo with the middle of the pack members.
miami would be my 2nd choice. strong in all 3 sports and not a true rival to any of the current sec members.
Clemson and FSU don’t really add new tv eyes for SEC games high is where most of the money comes from. UNC is the best fit. Their football team would dwarf Clemson with a little SEC money. The basketball speaks for itself. ESPN would love to have the UK vs unc basketball game yearly.
Basketball doesn’t move the needle.
football is king, but i think basketball gets more attn than you’re giving it credit for.
to play the part of devil’s advocate, could a move to the sec actually hurt unc’s national perception from a basketball perspective and maintained interest
I realize Tennessee is a basketball school now, but most folks care more about football
They’re a Softball School this week.
UNC would be the one to poach from the ACC.
Historically good to great in basketball, generally solid in baseball, and trending upward in football.
For rivalries you got the UNC & USCe angle, and for a bit longer (once Texas joins) you got Mack Brown vs Texas angle.
Auburn is not a real place. It’s just an internet creation invented by Georgia and Alabama for people who love underdogs and tractors. It’s really a suburb of Columbus Georgia. They have a team every few years by enrolling half the jailhouse.
Do the voices in your head tell you to hurt small animals?
Wes Durham is an ACC insider. He knows what he is talking about regarding the ACC and especially regarding NC. I heard him say on the radio last week that NC state law mandates that N Carolina and NC State be in the same conference. He said that law thwarted the Big 10s plan to add UNC and GA Tech when they added Maryland and Rutgers. So because of that, if the ACC blows up, IMO the SEC would add those 2 plus FSU and Clemson.
I wonder if it is possible for the ACC schools vote to kill or amend the grant of rights clause the conference has. Let’s assume so. Let’s assume it would take a 75% vote. That’s 11 schools. 8 have expressed a desire to leave. If I were one of those 8 I would forget fighting the ACC. Just work out a $ deal with 3 of the others. And why not for those 3? The ACC would still be a conference so it’s not like those 3 would be voting themselves homeless. Just a thought.
Durham also said that while no law like that exists in VA, that when UVA tried to block VA Tech’s entry to the ACC, the state legislature threatened to take away UVA’s funding. UVA immediately saw the light and VT was added. Might happen again if UVA wanted to separate from the ACC alone.
So if Durham is right, if the ACC blew up, those schools might each be a package deal. I don’t see the SEC taking the VA schools. Would the Big 10?
I don’t ever want Tech in the Big 10. Because if they were, they might get back to good. No one wants that?
Oklahoma and Oklahoma State had a similar situation but OU got out of it somehow.
Saying that, I think 16 teams is a perfect number and I don’t think adding more will benefit the conference. Just my opinion.
Just putting this out there in case anyone in the SEC reads these posts: 3 permanent opponents:
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, LSU
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi St.
Arkansas: Texas, Mizzou, Oklahoma
Florida: Georgia, LSU, South Carolina
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky: Tennessee, Mississippi St., Mizzou
LSU: Texas A&M, Florida, Alabama
Ole Miss: Mississippi St, Vandy, Texas A&M
Mississippi St: Ole Miss, Kentucky, Auburn
Mizzou: Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky
Oklahoma: Texas, Mizzou, Arkansas
South Carolina: Georgia, Florida, Vandy
Tennessee: Kentucky, Alabama, Vandy
Texas: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Texas A&M: LSU, Texas, Ole Miss
Vandy: Tennessee, Ole Miss, South Carolina
It’s not a given there will be a 3-6 scheduling model adopted.
Some schools are now pushing a 1-7 schedule, with one permanent opponent and seven rotating.
There may be schools pushing it but too many rivalry games would be lost in that format. Money is king and a situation where some of the annual rivalry games aren’t played just seems dead on arrival.
The SEC doesn’t need anyone from the ACC. The ACC is in a bit better position than the Pac 12 but not by much.
I am giving a shout-out to ‘Shout’ tracing Oregon’s connection to ‘Animal House’ and played before the 4th Q in Autzen Stadium with fans dancing in the seats.