Will Muschamp sends strong message, says South Carolina players have lost trust in SEC
Five days after the controversial officiating in the Florida loss, South Carolina coach Will Muschamp and Athletics Director Ray Tanner are still talking about the issue.
“We have a great league, but our players have lost a lot of trust in our league,” Muschamp said on his radio show, “Carolina Calls,” according to David Cloninger.
On another radio show, Tanner said on SportsTalk about the statement released from the SEC office and Commissioner Greg Sankey, “That release was much lighter than how I would have worded it, but we’ve turned the page and we’re headed to Rocky Top. You can rest assured, I’ve been wearing Garnet and Black for 24 years, I said some things my mother wouldn’t have been proud of and I had some suggestions for Greg Sankey.”
That was the second radio show Tanner appeared on Thursday, and in the morning, he admitted that he didn’t think he was going to be satisfied with the response from the league.
“Commissioner Sankey took time to speak with me,” Tanner said then. “Steve Shaw took time to speak with me more than once. I wasn’t going to get to that point (of satisfaction). I didn’t get to that point. I’m not at the point. We move on. Coach Muschamp is frustrated, was frustrated, but he has a game he’s preparing for right now in Knoxville and that’s where we should be. I don’t want to sit here and blame everyone in the world for everything. That’s not who I am. But I’m frustrated. I’m a competitor. I don’t like what happened. I don’t like it. I don’t want to point fingers. It’s part of it, but it doesn’t mean it’s easy to take, easy to digest. It’s still very frustrating.”
UT is going to beat USC at this rate…talk about not moving on.
That’s one take. It could go the other way, though. Use the Florida game as motivation. Go and pound UT, regardless of what the refs do.
Exactly
It was bad officials, but as a head coach, you better move on for the next game in only 2 days. Let your AD and fans talk.
You are right, this could be motivation, but you better win this weekend. Otherwise, Will Muschamp deserves some blames.
I’m sure they have been practicing all week preparing for TN.
No doubt they have been practicing all week, but do they mentally? As a Florida fan, we saw Muschamp’s over-emotion cost him before. Don’t lay an egg on Tennessee, SC should beat Tennessee easily.
I think we got our answer on this debate. Pretty sad!
This response aged well. There’s a bigger group of ‘people’ that has lost trust in someone else.
Boom!
Accurate prediction.
That’s bad for SC. Boom needs to get control of mindset of players. Game is in 2 days and still focused on last week.
Says the guy that still isn’t over losing to South Carolina…
You’re the only one still talking about UGA losing to USCjr. I realize it was like winning the Super Bowl for you but trust me UGA fans have moved on…like two weeks ago moved on.
I don’t think you, personally, get to use “USCjr” any longer. At least not until Georgia beats SC again.. And have UGA fans moved on? still see fans calling for coach/oc’s head for days/weeks after the L. You are a laugh!
If USCJr doesn’t work, how about Small Carolina?
They’re just now losing faith in the league? These guys act like they’re the first team to ever have bad officiating that may have affected the outcome of a game. This has been happening for years. It’s happened to every team in the league. No surprise, might as well move on so it doesn’t become a distraction.
Bad calls are a part of the game, but come on, those were extremely erroneous and costly misses, all we are asking for is accountability and equality from the governing body. Also I assure you the team has moved on, practicing all week for TN.
LOL, I told you to move on days ago and now who you gonna blame?
When the zebras gift a team 14 free points and the other loses by 11, they did more than maybe affect the game, they gifted it on a silver platter. Not the first time I’ve seen it happen (Alabama v Tennessee was also pretty bad), but this was a different level of incompetence. Any unbiased viewer would admit there were major issues with the way the game was officiated, and the SECs statement confirms that they don’t plan to hold themselves accountable anytime soon (wouldn’t have been nearly as upset if it was NCAA refs making these calls, bc obviously SEC employees r gonna look out for the SEC’s interest, aka make the conference look as good on paper nationallyas possible.”
Sec refs are only doing what your crazy fans ask them to do. You guys cheer so hard for your conference chanting sec sec sec every week, you are often just as happy when Alabama wins as you are when you own team wins. This pervasive attitude isn’t ignored by the higher ups. They know you all would be jumping off bridges if the sec (for some reason) couldn’t beat its chest as the beat conference in all the land.
So… how do we fix this? We tell the refs to fix it. Any other league ordinarily gets a few upsets a year from their elite teams no one is immune to it, especially in a competitive league. Your league protects your elite.
But you’ve got to ask yourself if this is what you are asking for when the conglomerate of the conference pulls for the elite teams (in addition to their own) so they can brag at the water cooler.
To be fair it’s pretty safe to count us beating Georgia as an SEC elite being upset
The SEC “protects the elite”??? LOL…no
Good LORD man – CLempson should get a PATENT on the PICK PLAY! They have used it ILLEGALLY to win one Natty for sure! No one from CU should ever weigh in on officiating!
stupid take all clown conference
You don’t really know any Aggies, right? We have a well-balanced set of chips on each shoulder.
On one side, we have been the one jacked by the refs many more times that just about anyone. Shut it LSU, you were gifted back into the game long before the PI.
On the other, we have been so screwed over by t.u. that we don’t like you by the association of having orange as one of your colors.
The SEC, Big 12, and even the old SWC did nothing to help us. We usually had to play the other team and the refs.
So since were completely taking away point for bad calls… the score is 10-0 at HT Florida up. Then you take away the feaster score in the 3rd because of holding.Take away the late garbage touchdown and Carolina gets shut out….Stop your whining, chances are Florida probably wins that game easily reguradless. TN is going to beat you this weekend because your delusional team and fan base cant let go of what possibly could have been.
Thank you for pointing this out for those who forgot the rest of the game and want to focus on the bad calls that went against them. It must be nice to live in a world of denial. I frankly a little surprised by what a whiner Muschamp has become.
I’ve been watching SEC football for 30 years and can’t recall one time when a big program got a bad, decisive call late in a game while playing a little SEC program. Muschamp is right. Logo matters. It’s been obvious for a very long time.
Greg Sankey is a corrupted commissioner. All fans should write to their university’s Presidents to have this moron removed before the conference loses all integrity.
Sankey — in Alabama’s pocket
He’s a Russian asset, right? Oh, wait… Saban strong armed Ukraine to get Sankey to do all things Bama. I’m sure there is something their right? I mean, they keep winning. The SEC office is in Alabama, right? There it is! The SEC office is in Birmingham! All SEC officials have been directed to make calls against Alabama opponents because the SEC office is in BHM… and Sankey is an Alabama asset!
You’d make a great Democrat…
trump has given Putin everything he wants
And lies with every breath, and is a total douch bag, you suck at being American! F trump and leave him out? Are y’all ok after the hurricane.
Go watch Fox News
There’s a lot of places on the internet for taking about politics. This here is not one of them. F*ck off.
I mean GoTide started the political talk…I think you’re saying F off to the wrong guy.
chefwilliamt: So you’re all butt-hurt that Hitlery lost and you are disgusted by the Orange Monster?
Now you know how I felt for eight years of the lying, neo-communist Obummer. Take two aspirin, wash them down with your Red Kool-Aid and go straight to hell.
Officials Miss calls..players turn the ball over and miss tackles,and coaches call bad plays…it’s all part of the game.. yeah it pisses all of us off when it hurts the team we pull for…ask us Georgia fans about the offsides call in title game…but we all have to suck it up and move on…it all evens out, we just don’t remember the times when the team we pull for is being helped by bad calls,like we do the time they are hurt by them..
If it all evened out, it wouldn’t be the same fan bases always complaining. The UF-USC refs made the Rams-Saints officials look hall of fame worthy. We got screwed and everyone knows it, so it would be nice if the commissioner who promised transparency and accountability would at least address it.
There was tons of holding by LSU against Florida that wasn’t called. But that’s football. What’s the old joke? You could call holding on every play.
We had chances to win. But we lost the game.
Our coach didn’t throw a hissy fit.
Our AD didn’t complain to the league office.
Our fans didn’t throw bottles and towels on the field.
I already told you why you lost the LSU game in your little quiz and it had nothing to do with refs calls, you really can’t be this out of touch can you?
Come now Nashville gator. Overhyping the refs in baton rouge again eh? Gators lost by 14 and needed the refs to keep several of those drives alive, especially the Emory Jones Td.
Thats the point therarereasonabletgr if you look at a few missed calls you could say the refs screwed UF in the LSU game and one was as clear and blatant as could be but if you look at the whole game there were missed calls on both sides just like USCjr vs UF
@therarereasonabletgr, I think you missed the point, which is that missed calls are part of the game.
“…but we’ve turned the page…”
I don’t think that means what you think it means.
Turned the page onto another one focused on whining
This is sad
Sure, you were 2-3 with wins over a Div N school and Ky. Then you beat Georgia and now the problem is officiating? Stop. Way to teach your team how to make excuses.
” don’t want to sit here and blame everyone in the world for everything. That’s not who I am. But I’m frustrated.”
See when you get to the “but” part it means you really don’t mean the first part.
Lol a new FL troll, I see you just started commenting today, all in favor of FL, at least have the ball$ to put the Gator next to your name lol
Lmfao I was thinking the same thing
Florida fans woulda been throwing glass bottles and burning sh*t if calls that bad went against them
No we wouldnt because, they were that bad the whole game. The better team won. SC should prob focus on TN because if you lose that one bowl eligibility is slipping away.
Lmfao ok sure your one boarder line call compares to the game changing 14 points handed to you even when we stopped you and intercepted the ball in the endzone and then turn around and miss an obvious holding call to hand y’all the lead
UF has been penalized more than any other team in the SEC for the last 25 years. So these whiny complaints are not meaningful. To say the SEC protects the elite (in the present year) is correct. Look at UF-UGA last year. 1st play Florida penalized for knee pads being to high and above knees. Meanwhile Fromm has his above his thighs. So everyone gets some and gives some. We all just live with it. Watch and see UF is ahead of uga now. We will get calls our way because the rest of our schedule is easier than uga going forward.
Feeling pretty vindicated today, lol.
I hear Sankey has info regarding Hillary Clinton’s emails…
lol
So what would Muschamp and Tanner like to see done? If they want someone fired, just say so. If they think the league is corrup, say it. (You know don’t be “gutless”). Everyone agrees they were terrible (no) calls and costs SC points. The officials are honest or they are not. Once Muschamp and Tanner clarifiy their position on that, maybe they can explain what they think the Commissioner should do next.
We will never know exactly was in the complaint, because coaches and universities are not allowed to talk about officiating or they get fined. what’s done is done, everyone knows that, but what the university wants is accountability and transparency and Sankey’s response gave neither but to say it’s being handled internally. The ramifications are clear if a player, coach, or university fails to comply by guidelines, but for officials there appears to be no transparency.
Seems like Muschamp and Tanner are doing a whole lot of talking about the officiating. What could the Commissioner possibly say that would satisfy them? What does tranparency mean? They want someone fired? When Muschamp says his players no longer have confidence in the league, what does he mean? Do they believe the league conspires against them? Does Muschamp believe that?
An acknowledgment of mistakes being made and some sort of ramifications being made that are transparent would be sufficient. Sankey saying everything will be handled internally without announcing a punishment is unacceptable. That would be like the SEC telling teams to handle all of their infractions and penalties internally and don’t announce them. If you are going to fine and suspend players, coaches, universities publicly for mistakes, why not do the same for officials. No one is saying there is a conspiracy against SC, they are just asking for transparency and accountability from officials, which shouldn’t be to much to ask in a workplace.
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Better forget about that and get ready to play
I disagree that this referee issue is a distraction for Gamecocks. I’m expecting the opposite – they are pissed and it will pull them together on the road vs Volunteers. This is perfect way to galvanize team with the message: “we can’t trust refs, we just need to go out and win it on our own!” Now we’ll see if I’m correct LOL.
Ouch!
Can’t trust your coach either, just admit you guys suck and wait for next year
Steve Shaw, Head of Officiating SEC, is a joke. The quality of officiating since he got the job has been awful.
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Good grief…I think the media is also picking the scab. We just need to take care of business and get to a bowl game.
I don’t blame Muschamp, and I’m glad that coaches are starting to speak out more. SEC officiating has been sub-par across the board. Call it bias or whatever – I’m not buying into that. What I am buying into is that in recent years (and in not-so-recent years), SEC officials have made consistent and blatantly bad calls, SEC higher ups have either defended or ignored them, and no meaningful changes have been made to fix the problems. I’m not saying that refs aren’t going to miss calls – of course they are – but better refs miss less calls than poorer refs. Folks saying that he shouldn’t be whining because there were bad calls in this game or that game or whatever game their team was in are proving my point. Given the competitiveness of SEC teams, why are we settling for anything other than the best referees? And why isn’t Sankey doing his job to make it that way? And why the hell are people saying, “Just accept it as the way it is and move on,” as if poor officiating needs to be a given? If coaches speaking up is what it takes to change the status quo, they should all jump on board. It’s certainly better than doing nothing.
There is a world of difference between “bias” or “whatever.” Bias suggest the refs and league is engaged in a conspiracy to cheat some teams.
I think you echoed my sentiments exactly. I love SEC football and growing up not only did the SEC field the best football teams, they also fielded the best refs in the sport. The quality of officiating has declined at an alarming rate over the last few seasons. If coaches need to speak up to make a change, then I’m all for it.
But at this point, Muschamp needs to move on and focus on the remaining schedule because nothing is going to change until after the season is over.
“players lost faith in the league”. Another classic from Chump. Between he and Tanner they come up with some doozies. Tanner’s about as dumb as they come. What are the criteria for being an AD? obviously not much. Wonder if Tanner will cough up another fat contract extension when the maestro puppet-master Sexton comes and pokes him again. Nothing like a .500 coach getting a $23mm guarantee. Highest level of malfeasance and fiscal mismanagement I’ve seen.
I’m just here to read the pathetic comments and pile on lol
Florida was the better team though
Missed calls is how LSU beat UF… What can you do? #Moveon
South Carolina needs more self-awareness of what they are. They had two weeks to game plan against Georgia and played an inspired game, but still had to hand on for dear life to win.
They should be embarrassed at all this excuse making.
Muschump can suck an egg for all I care but I will say that the SEC officiating as a whole has been atrociously bad. But nothing to be done at this point so move on or listen to Rocky Top.
Muschimp
Well at least sc stayed focused on UT and took care of business… Ooops, on second thought… Also, great game by Auburn and LSU. I wonder if Auburn fans will get on here and cry for two weeks that they were robbed since the first LSU TD happened when their Defensive tackle got spun around due to an eggregious hold on LSU which cost them 7 points in a tight game. They only lost by 3, so that means they would have won!!!
Oh. That is a team that has won in the past. They won’t cry over that call because calls go both ways and things even out. Boy, yesterday was fun.
Yeah it seems South Carolina fans rule the SEC when it comes to crying about the refs, but can you blame them? They’re just following their coach’s lead.
All of this conspiracy theory bs is laughable. Same sad little teams always claiming it. If you knew how ridiculous you sound you just might stfu…well I doubt that. You have to have an excuse when u get your ass beat.
From the score in the SC vs. Tennessee game….it sounds like Will spent
all last week moaning and groaning about officiating & it filtered thru to the team. Coaches jobs involve coaching, not only whining. How many times can you be beaten in one(1) game on long pass plays ? And I believe that Will was a defensive back, during his playing days at Georgia. Hmmm.
The only strong message sent was to embrace excuses, avoid personal responsablity, and blame others for failure. His players heard the message loud and clear and proceeded to lay a gigantic egg against a terrible team. Good job coach.
I’m generally not to critical of the zebras – However in the Auburn-LSU game there were remarkably strange officiating going on. 1) There was a ball spotted 3 yards short of where the review ended up putting it. 2) Several holding calls missed on big plays by tackles who were clearly losing their DE’s… (happens – but this particular holding is very easy to see) 3) Pulling the chains from the sideline to check for a first down that was a yard short 4) Not calling a touchdown – all the referees looking to the next as to guidance on what to do for maybe 7-8 seconds. 5) not blowing the whistle on (forward progress) plays. Just a lot of things that made their job/responsibilities on field very noticeable in a game where they shouldn’t me.
If the refs let them play they are wrong if they call every penalty they could they are wrong. Looking back at the game there were penalties on both sides that weren’t called. The only one that should have been called and the player ejected was that cheap shot punch that was thrown. Is that what Muschamp coaches? Crybaby.