O'Gara: Takeaways from the 4th College Football Playoff Poll
It’s OK to admit it. After a weekend of chaos, it was perfectly fine to anticipate a rankings show for the latest Playoff Poll.
Of course, it was only fitting that after 7 of the top 20 teams fell, we had to wait until 8:30 p.m. ET to get the latest CFP Top 25.
This is what the new CFP Top 25 looked like:
Here are the biggest takeaways from Tuesday’s ranking:
Indiana falls to … a respectable No. 10
If you were wondering what awaited the Hoosiers after their blowout loss to Ohio State, well, you got the answer that confirmed what many felt by the end of Saturday. Chaos benefitted IU — a ton. Alabama and Ole Miss losing was pivotal. Even BYU suffering loss No. 2 felt significant.
IU is the lowest-ranked 1-loss team among the Power Conference schools. It still didn’t fall below Boise State, who has a Top 25 win (UNLV) and a more respectable loss (by 3 at No. 1 Oregon). That’s a small win for IU. After all, it’s still the Big Ten. Favorable draw or not, getting through Nebraska and Washington is different than facing San Jose State and Wyoming … who nearly beat Boise State on Saturday.
The point is Curt Cignetti’s squad might’ve failed to capitalize on a golden opportunity, but a win against lowly Purdue should be enough for the Hoosiers to emerge from the chaos and make the field. Of course … some more chaos can unfold and perhaps a Playoff game in Bloomington could be in the cards.
One thing at a time.
Who else benefitted from that chaos besides IU? Tennessee and the ACC
I mean, Vols fans were Gator chomping in Neyland. If that doesn’t tell you about how much the Vols needed things outside of their control to break right, I don’t know what would. That indeed happened with Indiana, Alabama and Ole Miss falling. As a result, Tennessee is now in a nice spot at No. 8 with a clear path to 10-2. Just beat Vandy and one would assume that Playoff berth will be locked in.
Seeing Alabama, Ole Miss and Texas A&M suffer loss No. 3 was also pivotal for the ACC. Instead of looking like a 1-bid league, getting 2 teams in feels most likely. That would entail No. 6 Miami not puking on its shoes against Syracuse, as well as No. 9 SMU avoiding disaster against 6-5 Cal.
If a 1-loss SMU, who already clinched an ACC Championship berth, faces a 1-loss Miami in the conference title game, they shouldn’t fall out of the top 11-12 with a loss. If Saturday reminded us of anything, though, it’s don’t assume anything.
As for the other thing that could break the ACC’s way …
Clemson is getting the benefit of the doubt in ways it doesn’t deserve
If the season ended today, Clemson would be the first team out of the Playoff at No. 12 (don’t forget that a Big 12 team will get an automatic bid and enter the top 12). That’s far more egregious than any other ranking. Clemson has 3 games vs. FBS teams with 7 wins. It went 1-2 and was outscored 87-48.
To recap, Clemson has 2 blowout losses — neither of which were even true road games — and its only win vs. an FBS team with 7 victories came in a 24-20 thriller at Pitt, which suffered that loss amid its current 4-game losing streak.
Ah, yes. The Tigers have a chance to pick up a quality win vs. No. 15 South Carolina this weekend. That’s true. If Clemson takes care of No. 15 South Carolina and is 10-2 and on the outside looking in at the ACC Championship — it would need a Miami loss to Syracuse to make the conference title game — then we can discuss a potential top-12 ranking. But it felt like the selection committee jumped the gun.
Alabama, Ole Miss and South Carolina might all have 3 losses, but all of them have multiple wins that are better than what Clemson did at 4-loss Pitt. And for what it’s worth, that doesn’t mean South Carolina is suddenly worthy of making the field with 3 losses, 1 of which was a blowout loss at home.
That’s why South Carolina-Clemson shouldn’t be a play-in game for the Playoff. But clearly, the selection committee thinks more of Clemson than I do, so who knows?
The thing we should all be wondering about the next week and a half
That is, will conference championship participants get some immunity from the selection committee? Lane Kiffin had a poorly timed rant about that, but he was fair to bring it up. Teams not wanting to play in conference championships would be a brutal fear to confirm for the selection committee.
In this era, wherein several idle teams will be in the top 12 of the final CFP, it doesn’t make sense to drop a team OUT of the top 12 just because it lost a conference title game. Teams who already have multiple losses like Georgia could be in jeopardy of that. If the selection committee moved an idle 2-loss Clemson team into the field past UGA, that’d be 2023 Florida State levels of scrutiny for the selection committee.
While I disagree with Joey Galloway’s take that Tennessee should feel “relieved” not to play in the conference title game — let’s not diminish the reward of a first-round bye in a potential 17-game season — this precedent is pivotal. The selection committee can maintain that incentive while not unnecessarily punishing teams who earned an extra game.
Fingers crossed that sanity wins out in the next couple weeks.
SCar needs to biotch slap Clemson and they may be able to sneak in.
Hope they do it.
That would be great! I wouldn’t want to play USC right now.
3 loss Georgia will travel north and Beck’s cold fingers will throw 4 interceptions. Let’s skip that SEC embarrassment and put in a team more deserving.
Georgia ain’t gonna have 3 losses…
because Georgia ain’t gonna have to leave the state of Georgia until they go to Disneyland to celebrate.
There is a rumor going around that Sankey got Georgia, TX and TXAM in a room and they decided to lose to TXAM so the SEC could get in more teams.
Sounds about like what happened in 2021…
when Kirby let the nation know he was Sankey’s huckleberry…
when Sankey, Saban, and Kirby all in unison agreed it would be best for the SEC if Alabama won the 2021 SEC Championship Game?!?
If not there’s a decent chance they end up last one out. Win against Clem(p)son would be a major ranked win while even if Bama and Ole Miss win in rivalry week they’d both be wins against teams with losing records.
If UGA should win against Tech and lose the SEC Championship game, it shouldn’t fall below UTK, a team they have beaten. I know that’s just using common sense, so that’s not going to happen.
All you’ve got to do is get in the tournament. UGa is good enough to win it all no matter where they are seeded. UT is not quite that level, but I’d like to think they are.
Well by that logic Alabama and Ole Miss should be ranked ahead of UGA should you end up with the same record as us.
No, they should not. UGA has to play the extra game which you have to qualify for. Bama and Ole Miss failed to achieve that. As 10EC stated, common sense.
I stated it the night UGA clinched.. if they beat Tech and lose in SEC championship, they are in playoff (barring a blowout loss). Remember, many people complaining about the playoffs said it would diminish the regular season. If UGA loses SEC champ and gets left out, that would validate that point. First year, committee is not gonna want to send that message. Down the road, may happen but not this year.
The playoffs don’t diminish the regular season, rather it’s the CCG’s that diminish (even wipe out) the regular season as we saw happened to GA a year ago. It’s time to kill the CCG’s, or have the final playoff poll before CCG’s so they don’t hurt deserving teams like GA again. Either way, it’s better to diminish the additional CCG than the entire regular season.
Georgia losing a 3rd game is proof they don’t belong and have fallen too far to get back up in the SEC.
The twelve team playoffs have demonstrably diminished the regular season which is proven by the fact that a bunch of two loss teams are about to make the playoffs, something that never happened in the four team playoff.
@boxter: That’s categorically false. By that logic NO playoffs at all would be the only way not to diminish the regular season. No sports league in history has ever diminished its sport by expanding playoffs, not one.
Agreed. If it wasn’t for the expanded playoff Georgia would not be in it because they have fallen so far despite the supposed talent.
Booches, losses in regular season games have much less of an impact this season than during the four team playoff. That means less implications hung in the balance and thus those games are not as important.
We’re on the cusp of the biggest weekend in CFB history and you say regular season losses don’t matter? This weekend of football goodness we’re about to get is all because of the expanded playoffs, in a 4-team playoff this would be a nothing weekend. Tell Clemson, Alabama, BYU, Indiana, Tennessee and Ole Miss this weekend only matters because of the rivalry. It means much, much more to them now, and it’s going to be awesome.
The importance of this weekend is due to the diminished importance of several other regular season games that occurred earlier this season. I do agree, though, the action this weekend will be awesome.
They can’t end up with the same record. Assuming Georgia wins one of those games Georgia would have one more win.
This. Everyone talks about how a 10-2 regular season team that loses a conference championship will have 3 losses. They also still have 10 wins. They have a better record than 9-3 teams and the same number of wins as a 10-2 that sat home. The committee knows it can’t kick out a team that would have made the field if it hadn’t played a CCG. They’ll use the above logic to keep them in.
If Choking Georgia loses to TXAM they aren’t included. If Choking Georgia loses to TX they would have the same losses as 2 teams that beat them already so they are out. It’s simple. Choking Georgia has fallen and cannot get up.
Clempsum ain’t buying that..That tiger is going to eat some chicken.
SC is going to pound the rock with Sanders, molest Klubnik off both edges, and cruise to a 34-20 victory, ensuring playoff birth where they will be favored against at least half of these phony ‘playoff teams’
3 loss Georgia will travel north and Beck’s cold fingers will throw 4 interceptions. Let’s skip that SEC embarrassment and put in a team more deserving.
Arguing for a preemptive exclusion of Georgia from the playoffs is a great way to let everyone know you’re afraid of playing Georgia again.
Bingo!
I don’t want UT to play UGa again. I’ll admit it.
He’s an interception machine. He’s going to embarrass the SEC. It would be best for everyone involved if Georgia had as much integrity as Biden and bowed out.
It’s very entertaining seeing you talk about how much Georgia sucks all the time. I suppose the Vols suck even worse since they can’t beat Georgia to save their lives.
Neyland was rocking last year and the Dawgs still won…and 2 years before that…and 2 years before that, etc. The current 8 in a row for Georgia began at Neyland in 2017. Hell, even Dolly and Peyton couldn’t get the Vols team inspired last year.
I wrote an alternate version of Rocky Top last year after the annual beat down of the Vols. Performed it for some friend’s parties and at a few gigs around Atlanta. It was excruciating having to learn that god awful song on the guitar but worth it. Goes a little something like this:
One Saturday, down on Rocky Top, the Bulldogs came to town.
Dolly and Peyton got the crowd all fired up, the football team let them down.
Rocky Top, you’ll always be like home sweet home to me.
Good ole’ Rocky Top, where Georgia owns Tennessee, where Georgia owns Tennessee.
In closing, Lagway is gonna be way better than Nico.
Tennessee playing Georgia in the first round? Come on man… I’m not interested in that rematch. Didn’t work out so well the first time. I’d rather play Indiana or SMU or anyone other than UGA again. No thank you.
There are plenty of moving parts to orchestrate a symphony that doesn’t pit SEC teams against each other until it’s necessary to do so.
The moving parts in their “new” and “improved” Ponzi scheme scam makes the previous CFP Ponzi scheme scam look every bit as childish as it was…
Saban, the GOAT of the “selection” era CFP Ponzi scheme scam era, used the greatest funnel tool in the history of man to become a living legend…
“select” who you want, to force who it is, that comes out of the small end of the funnel.
The new funnel has a bigger opening now, but the small end still functions just like the old one did.
I’m not going to bother trying to figure out what tf you meant by all that funnel referencing. Good grief
“Selection” is one of the main reasons Saban is a living legend.
When they “selected” Cincinnati to be the team Alabama played for entry into the CFP Final…
it’s not hard to understand that they wanted Alabama to play for the title.
In the trenches, Cincinnati didn’t matchup with Alabama; on the first drive of the game, Saban ran the ball EVERY play.
There would have been no need, during any quarter of the game, for Alabama to throw the ball…
that is how over matched Cincinnati was.
And Cincinnati was who they “selected” to get Alabama to the 2021 CFP Final.
You understand now?
Good grief…
are you serious? Cincinnati is the team they “selected” to prevent Alabama from coming out of the small end of the funnel?
Funny!
I hate that college football is where it is today in so many ways. NIL, portal, several rules changes… but this is where it is and it’s not going backwards. Winning an SEC championship rings loud and proud but honestly it’s mainly because of what it used to mean. It simply has now lost its appeal and not nearly as meaningful or worthwhile with a playoff in lay. Losing it absolutely should not penalize a team in seeding. The seeding and teams should be decided beforehand. I do like the excitement of the CFP and the many possibilities of different winners. I like the fact your team can lose a game or two and still get in. I prefer 16 teams with no byes but 12 is better than 4. I don’t think it diminishes the regular season at all. If anything it helps keep it relevant throughout the season more than with a 4 team playoff.
I don’t see any 3 loss team,whose 3rd loss didn’t come in a ccg getting in without a lot of chaos, which isn’t off the table after last week but it’s highly unlikely. For UT if they lose to vandy they r out and rightfully so.
fuzzy…
I would cry if I had any tears left.
Conference championship teams, teams that had won their conference championship game, couldn’t “earn” a “selection” in to the Ponzi scheme scam tyrant Sankey controlled for over two-decades…
the reason that was so is because those conference championship teams lost a game or two and it was always the SEC @$$h0le fans that said they shouldn’t have lost a game or two to justify why the SEC was “always selected” in to tyrant Sankey’s Ponzi scheme scam…
cry me some more tears, fuzzy!
You need to have the non-bye four teams who played no one to play an SEC team in the twelve.You cannot choose who you play during a season,but,make the autos play a SEC team in the first round.Indiana lost to OSU,the only team with a ranking.10-0 means nothing when you don’t play anyone.