When you’ve been a radio/TV host for as long as Paul Finebaum has, it takes a lot to catch you off-guard, but that’s exactly what happened during Thursday’s episode of “The Paul Finebaum Show” on ESPN.

Finebaum’s callers often have some ridiculous takes, but Jason from Birmingham had an all-timer during Thursday’s show, saying Alabama should fire Nick Saban in 2020 and hire Clemson’s Dabo Swinney.

You can hear Jason’s comments on the Finebaum podcast here, where he said Swinney’s ties to Alabama would make him a better option for the program than Saban (quotes via 247Sports):

“I want to talk about loyalty in coaching and you know how fanbases are, Paul. It’s just crazy to think Nick Saban gives one hoot about Tuscaloosa and Alabama, period. It’s a job,” Jason said, whose soundbite starts at the 19:05 mark in the first hour. “It’s a job for him and we get so blindsided by that. What you’ve got in Dabo Swinney is someone from Alabama. He’s from Pelham (and) he’s going to be there for the long haul.

“Is it crazy to think that 2020 you pull the trigger even if Saban is doing well?”

Naturally, Finebaum burst out laughing at that point, upsetting Jason, who powered through and pushed on with his asinine point:

“I’m serious. Don’t even laugh. It’s not funny,” he said. “This is the deal. Saban is getting negatively recruited against because of his age, right? Has it ever gone down in history, for someone at the top of his game, as an athletic director you go with a guy who’s already proven himself in another conference and he’s hot and got 30 years left? I’m not taking that risk.”

Finebaum didn’t know what to make of those comments, as Saban is one of the greatest coaches in college football history. As long as Saban wants to coach, he’ll likely remain at Alabama, regardless of Jason from Birmingham’s protests.