Latest report out of B1G about details of canceling season will fire up fans
By now, you’re aware that the Big Ten has announced it will postpone the football season until at least 2021.
There are potential plans regarding winter football and spring football, but nothing is set in stone as of yet. In fact, many in the conference are still upset they’re not playing this fall.
First-year commissioner Kevin Warren has taken a lot of heat publicly, and a new report from Omaha.com is sure to anger many parents, players and fans. Per the report, every B1G AD was in favor of playing this fall, but Warren didn’t present that to the conference presidents and chancellors:
Warren was aware, for example, that every Big Ten athletic director was in favor of playing a fall football season. (Nebraska AD Bill) Moos said he, Ohio State’s, Penn State’s and Michigan’s A.D.s pushed hardest, but there was unanimous agreement, Moos said, in wanting to play.
“He knew where we were coming from, and he was the messenger to the presidents and chancellors,” Moos said.
Moos said there was plenty of confusion due to the way Warren operated:
“I knew where our people stood, but I would have liked to have been in the room when they expressed it to the commissioner and our presidents and chancellors,” Moos said. “The commissioner was operating in silos, and the silos weren’t connected. And, in the end, that created varying degrees of communication not being delivered.”
This isn’t a good look for the Big Ten. We’ll see what happens in the aftermath of this report.
The B ONE GEE has found out the meaning of “go woke – go broke”!
This sounds like the communication we have between our stable of has-been head coaches.
We need to work on our comments to the media – both coaches and players.
If he went against the Schools his days are numbered…
His days are probably numbered anyway…he’s still working from Minnesota…has not moved to the offices in Chicago ? Kinda strange don’t you think.
He probably wanted to avoid the violence in Chicago. Ironic if true.
Being from the north, I can assure you Chicago sucks.
Not sure he necessarily went against the schools, but he went against the AD’s. So he got there input and then discussed with the Chancellors. Either he totally disregarded the AD’s want to play or the Chancellors said no thanks anyways.
Warren is just bad news, and the school presidents are clowns. He clearly had an agenda and they were foolish enough to buy in. That conference deserves all of the criticism it gets. Their players and coaches are no more than pawns in this guys mind. How horrible an attitude for a conference commissioner. He is a disaster for college sports.
Agree, MC, all political agenda. Sad for athletes, families, and fans.
According to guys in Columbus, OH – Warren listened to Lawyers instead of the AD’s – the Lawyers told him not to start the season because fans might sue the schools if they picked up the virus at a stadium.
Of course it is almost impossible to prove where you picked up anything…
I think the big 10 and the pac 10 decision makers were brain washed by false statistic claims by the Coronavirus-19 fear subscribers. The truth was out there in the news but a person had to study it and connect some dots to understand it. Here was the most important and widely reported fact that should have let everyone play football. Average pneumonia deaths in the USA per year 61,000, plus average flu deaths of 25,000, heart disease + stroke + chronic respiratory 1.5 million. Because when you understand that 175,000 Coronavirus deaths is not all that far beyond normal deaths from like illness, you just don’t vote for reducing our economy and quality of lives to a manure quagmire over it. If you add up all the negative results from this around the big 10 and pac 12 and keep tracks of the damage for a decade, the result is going to be a lot of head-shaking, dismay, jaw-dropping, angry, informed but too late people. Get ready for the aftershocks, the first ones will hit about week 3 of the SEC, Big 12, and ACC schedule. Will someone please schedule Nebraska and let them play.
I wish the SEC would’ve went to a plus one game. We have some great rivalry games from outside the conference (UF vs. FSU / UGA vs. GaTECH / CLEM. vs. SC, etc.). The teams that didn’t have one could easily put Nebraska or another on the schedule. For that matter, Nebraska could have made a season out of playing all the others that didn’t have a rivalry game.
exactly, thanks for detailing that idea
The only reason why they didn’t was that it would force Alabama, Auburn, and few other west teams to find a non conference game so that the others could have their rival games. Funny how Alabama doesn’t want Auburn to go to the SEC East but they are perfectly fine letting a 109 consecutive game streak with another SEC team go to waste.
You still on that SEC East fantasy?
And of that 175,000, how many died because of corona or just had it? We’ll never have accurate numbers when there’s incentives for the hospitals for corona deaths. My friend’s grandpa just died from Alzheimer’s, they declared it a covid death. He died WITH it but not because of it.
GoCats…so true. If a guy has a motorcycle wreck and dies & it’s diagnosed that he had it=a Covid death=?
I agree GoCats! My cousin is a nurse and told us that the hospitals are telling them to mark everyone down as a COVID death for money. How sick is that!! You try to tell that to a Dem or Liberal and they don’t listen or care. They just blame Trump and our government for all those people dying. The Governor of New York should be put in prison for all the people in nursing homes he killed by kicking them out of hospitals. But all the Dems and Libs are praising him! The death numbers are a farce but it’s all about keeping the agenda. People under the age of 55 are rarely dying from COVID. The percentages are so low.
I heard that a Covid diagnosis bumps up the Medicare rate by 30% for hospitals
as is true with lots of causes of death, so all these statistics include unfair assignment of a single cause
The average number of pneumonia deaths is not 61K. That’s the high water mark. CDC has us ranging between 12K and 61K.
If you can’t see that this is all about politics and the election more than player safety, you are not very observant. Everyone agrees it’s a different issue. Little 10 has a weak hypocritical leader who is hoping to swing the election. If you don’t believe me, look at the article from Yahoo Sports when he was interviewed on 6/15/20. It’s not about football, it never was. You can allow schools to have students on campus, intramural sports, but not have football? You make schools cut other sports because they are losing money for not having football. Warren is a selfish greedy person who won’t even tell his son to sit out, but makes every player in the Little 10 sit out. He is making a statement that it’s not about football.
The virus can tell the difference between going to school and playing sports.
Clown Warren is a hero for the democrats.
If the B1G doesn’t fire him and restore sports in the next two weeks then they are just pacifists that deserve what they get.
You nailed it. Never heard of a conference commissioner getting athletes to sign up to vote. I’m sure he let them think for themselves and didn’t tell them how to vote.
Seems like little 10 athletics is not important to Warren…he’s acting like a social-cause-agenda kind of guy…not too concerned about the athletic programs or the athletes who really want to play some football.
HuntlandVolinCO, I think you’ve been taking too many deep breaths of that Colorado air. You forgot an apostrophe and a t.
It doesn’t matter if your far right or a liberal democrat, you can’t help but see what is exactly Warren and the Presidents/Governors are doing in the Little 10 regions. However notice, the Democrats/liberals aren’t commenting on stories about the Little 10 or Warren because deep down they know and are excited what Warren is doing because it’s a step closer to have an advantage in the election.
Yeah, the conference is willing to lose a billion dollars. Help me out-how exactly does this help them and the democrats?
The President of OSU couldn’t care less about the revenue the football team generates. It’s a drop in the bucket to OSU total revenue/profit.
$54-58 Million dollars last year. That’s what the football program generated for OSU. Hardly a drop in the bucket>
Compared to $7 Billion (OSU revenue). Hardly noticeable.
Seven other varsity sports would not exist at OSU without the football program.
My view is the Presidents view sports in general as necessary evils. I don’t think they really care if they all go away. Sports is beneath them.
Saying Warren is a puppet is comical. He worked the presidents and pushed for this. It was the presidents that were and are the puppets here.
That’s simply ignorant and most likely intentionally so.
Another billion will be lost by the businesses and jobs in those college towns too, but Warren does’t care. He’s just a SJW activist.
Interesting take. Let me understand. The guy that took over the position in January is now running the entire Big 10? Ground control to Major Meat. Come back Meat, Comeback…
There are some pretty good articles about this fiasco on the Saturday Traditions site. There is something weird going on with the site though as there are no comments and it won’t go to the page to register or login. I wanted to see what their fans were saying. Maybe they have no fans left.
After the “would have been” caustic and embarrassing comments, we have to wonder what kind of job certain people would have next year? If any?
Yeah sad to see those rivalries put on hold.
For the sake of argument, let’s say that Warren decided to play as scheduled and a player or two died from complications of Covid. How would that have played out? He would be slammed as an accessory to murder by the same media blaming him now for pulling the plug, because face it, most people in the media just want to go negative on everybody that exceeded what they were able to achieve.
Have you ever heard of Benjamin Steele? He warned the captain of the Titanic and the shipping line not to take that 1912 voyage. The ship received additional warnings of drifting ice, but they were dismissed, because the Titanic was unsinkable.
Before the Titanic sailed, Steele was considered by the White Star Line like Warren is being considered now. Hindsight is better than foresight. Hopefully, there won’t be a major story that talks about how foolish the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 were and why it led to Joe Smith, Bill Jones, and John Doe dying because of the money. And, then the Big Ten and Pac-12 wait until Spring, a month after the virus scare is solved.
It sounds crazy now, but you must admit that it is possible. A first year commissioner cannot possibly risk that liability, when he has received medical warning from infectious disease specialists.
Young people are not dying. The percent is too low to measure.
Plus the football players are far safer while practicing and in meetings, etc. It’s their “free time” that’s when they tend to get into trouble, even prior to the virus.
Which is the “risk to liability” worry isn’t legitimate.
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COVID may end up doing all the talking. But not communicating the process and letting the members feel the B1G has exhausted all possibilities is why this wildfire isn’t going away. This isn’t the NCAA, way too much cloak and dagger.
The president’s of the schools made the decision to cancel the season, not Warren. Warren has been set up to be the fall guy in all of this. It’s been estimated that each school will lose between $50 and $100 million dollars. Does anybody really think that the biggest money-making conference in all the land, would allow a guy that just took over the job full time in January, make this type of decision? Give me a break.
It’s his communication that is being criticized. Most people know he didn’t make the decision.
Many of the comments above don’t support what you’re saying. I’m not a Warren fan but some of these comments are well beyond ignorant.
These recent comments are reflecting that Warren did not tell the Presidents that they were unanimous in the desire to try and play.
If that is true, he should have informed the Presidents. No?
You can actually read about this stuff. Warren has allowed himself to be used by the presidents. He’s nothing more than a puppet willing to take the fall. They, the presidents, knew exactly what they were doing. They just weren’t ready for the heat and instead of standing behind their decision, they started pointing fingers.It’s made them look weak, indecisive and less than honest.
I agree the President are the bad folks here. They may end up lucky in out if the other conferences cancel. If not…..
Warren’s big mistake, IMO, were his comments about using his position to sway the election. Not smart to notify your enemies of your intentions. Points for honesty though.
The presidents of the schools made the decision to cancel based on Warren’s faulty information. He had an agenda. Maybe the presidents did also. None of them showed any respect to the AD’s, coaches or players. The spring ball nonsense is a joke. All lies coming from the little 14.
The little 14 puts your conference to shame in actual earnings, year in, year out. The nonsense here is needing to throw around the word, “lies” like it has any actual validity. It’s pretty much your goto MO. That and “coward.”
Are you forgetting the contract the SEC just signed with ESPN? It’s for way more than your conference makes when they have an actual season. Now, your conference is like the PAC, they are borrowing money and cancelling sports. All that money your conference made sure didn’t lead to much. Be proud though.
Actually I’m talking about the verified team by team payouts over the years. How about you? and yes, I am proud.
Almost forgot, the BIG didn’t need ESPN to carry us.
Carry you where? Think hard about the last time your conference even won a playoff game. We have had three different teams win playoff games and two win a combined three titles since you guys have had any success. I can see why you would brag though. Or not. The best part is, the little 14 just got even smaller with this most recent nonsense. Enjoy.
Your conference is a joke Tom, and soon they will be the laughingstocks of the college football world alongside the always-mocked PAC-12. It’s also not shocking that you attempt to gloat about revenue over actual performance on the field. Do yourself a favor and let the BIG10 know that it’s not illegal to win a playoff game, or even score points in playoff games.
I read that Ohio State is getting a $75 Million loan to “help” absorb the lack of fan$ in the stands/refreshment$/merchandise sale$ due to the cancelled season. Just think of all the part-time employees that will not be paid from September till Thanksgiving…Big Buck$ here to consider.
More nonsense from LH. Football fields are not the issue. The players are tested regularly. It’s the players and students social habits that are the concern, and even that’s not big. The scared crowd is loud and proud, but quite a bit nonsensical.
Any player that commits to a team in the Big10 or Pac12 is a glutton for punishment…Especially in the Big10 where its obvious that a rogue commissioner is making decisions without even discussing matters with the AD’s, Coaches, or the players and their families…I’m sure coaches from conferences that actually are playing football this fall is using that as ammo while recruiting certain players…Cant say I blame them
Looks like the B1G just found their fall guy! They’re going to roll that truck back and forth over this guy until nobody else is at fault.
It’s basically first-year commissioner Kevin Warren’s fault.
Yeah, that takes all the blame off the coaches and AD’s, etc…
Ding ding ding
I had a telephone appointment for allergies…..
Never received a bill for the co pay…..after several weeks I inquired about it……..they said it was coded as Covid……
Some insurance companies are waiving co pays Covid……and hence there is much less paperwork…..so I am a case and didn’t even know it………
I just have a couple of questions for all of you who are obviously so much smarter than me. Why is there not all this anal twisting over whether kids can play high school football? They seemed to have tee’d that up and kicked that off without all this hullabaloo.
And, can anyone explain the strategy behind the high school teams in Texas that played four quarters of FULL contact, tackle football Friday night, but for “safety’s sake”, in lieu of shaking hands, lined up across from each other and WAVED at end other at the end of the game???
There are just some things that have no rhyme nor reason. Lots of them out there right now.