To'o To'o and Gray are leaving, too? Whatever your expectations are for 2021 Tennessee, lower them
You know the famous scene in “Rudy” when all of those Notre Dame players line up outside of Dan Devine’s office so that they can offer up their jerseys in hopes of getting the gritty walk-on a chance to play in a game before his eligibility runs out?
In a weird way, that’s what it felt like with Tennessee on Wednesday night. As if they were lined up outside Kevin Steele’s door, stud player after stud player (metaphorically) turned in their jersey.
Henry To’o To’o’s No. 11 jersey hit the desk. Jahmir Johnson’s No. 58 soon followed. Then it was time for Quavaris Crouch’s No. 27, and before he could close the (metaphorical) door behind him, Eric Gray’s No. 3 dropped, too.
The difference between Tennessee’s situation and Notre Dame’s was that unlike in the movie wherein those players started an inspiring movement in an effort to get 1 person on the field for 1 game, those key Vols turned their jerseys in for good. Tennessee isn’t some feel-good moment that’s about to lead to some walk-on getting carried off the field for one of the most prestigious programs in college football.
But like with those Notre Dame players in “Rudy,” the byproduct of Tennessee’s best players turning in their jerseys could be that walk-ons are suddenly thrown into the fire.
With the way things are trending in Knoxville now in the wake of an internal investigation into recruiting violations and Jeremy Pruitt’s subsequent firing, it’s becoming more obvious with each orange and white jersey that hits the desk.
Whatever your 2021 expectations of Tennessee are, lower them. And then maybe lower them some more.
If you thought 2020 was bad, wait until you see what the SEC does to the Vols in the aftermath of this 2021 dumpster fire. I’ll save you the rant on why this isn’t the type of league that forgives depleted rosters like the one that resides in Knoxville.
Ask post-Hugh Freeze Ole Miss about that. Level I violations meant that players could enter the transfer portal and receive immediate eligibility. It’s a minor miracle that the likes of D.K. Metcalf and A.J. Brown stayed in Oxford. Still, that team went 6-18 vs. SEC competition in a 3-year stretch under Matt Luke.
Scholarship limitations matter. Being on probation while recruiting also matters. Losing all of your best players matters more than anything.
Tennessee is about to experience all 3 of those things. If Wednesday night was the scene in “Rudy” wherein we only see a handful of key players turn in their jerseys, the last couple of months was when the line out the office door started.
Quarterbacks J.T. Shrout, Brian Maurer and Jarrett Guarantano hit the transfer portal, as did leading pass rusher Deandre Johnson and multi-year starting tailback Ty Chandler, who were among the 8 Tennessee players who transferred between December and Jan. 7, which was roughly a week and a half before Pruitt’s firing was announced. Former 5-star offensive lineman and multi-year starter Wanya Morris also entered the transfer portal the week before Pruitt’s firing.
The top recruit in Tennessee’s recently inked 2021 class, Dylan Brooks, asked for his release from the program on Wednesday. Since the last week of November, the Vols had 4 recruits rated 4-stars or better in the 2021 class drop their commitments (and 9 total recruits). That included 5-star linebacker Terrence Lewis, who signed with Maryland.
If you thought that was bad, look at Tennessee’s 2022 class. As of this writing on Thursday morning, it doesn’t exist. To be fair, it was only 1 player deep when the week started. That was 3-star New York linebacker Jimmy Scott … who also dropped his commitment Wednesday. He didn’t even have a jersey to drop on Steele’s desk.
Neither did Auburn transfer Big Kat Bryant, who committed to Tennessee over the weekend and then deleted his social media post announcing the move Tuesday.
Even the most optimistic Tennessee fan — the one who still thinks a 1998 return is within arm’s reach — has to realize how brutal this is. We haven’t even gotten to the part where Tennessee gets either a self-imposed punishment or an NCAA punishment. Both feel inevitable.
This is the part in the movie where we hear the Tennessee faithful say “those who stay will be champions.” I’d say a “champions of life” trophy is more realistic for Tennessee. Even that might be setting the bar too high.
Those who stay are likely to be an SEC punching bag until further notice.
Then again, we’re talking about a program with 2 winning conference seasons in the last 13 years that posted a 5-37 record against its 3 biggest rivals in the last 14 seasons. That punching bag aspect won’t take much adjusting on Rocky Top. What will take adjusting is not having that hope that help is on the way. No top-10 recruiting class is walking through that door. Unlike the previous decade-plus when a coach flamed out at Tennessee, there likely won’t even be that immediate jolt of excitement for the successor.
Unlike 2017 when Tennessee posted a winless season in SEC play in the final year of the Butch Jones era, there won’t even be a head coach to put all the blame on. In the likely event it is Steele who coaches through the train wreck that awaits in 2021, he won’t be at fault for the losses. You can’t really expect much from the guy when all of his key contributors keep filing into his office with a jersey to put on his desk.
Shortly before Pruitt’s firing, Austin Price and Brent Hubbs of Rivals’ Volquest reported that the then-Tennessee head coach was accompanied by Steele and multiple Tennessee staffers in a trip to California to meet with To’o To’o in hopes of keeping him from leaving the program. As we found out Wednesday night, that effort came up short.
Get ready to hear that a lot with Tennessee in 2021. “That effort came up short.” There’s no doubt that those who stay will try to keep a sinking ship afloat. They deserve praise for that, no doubt.
But this isn’t the movies. This is the SEC.
There’s no “Rudy” ending coming to Knoxville.
Thank you captain obvious.
This year is our year though… ;)
You know you never realize that Tennessee has so much fairly decent talent. Some really good. Until you see them walking out the door. Possibly enough talent to be a really strong team in the big 10 or ACC or big 12. Yet in the SEC. Either Pruitt just ain’t a great head coach. Or Tennessee is very average. But the SEC average is a powerhouse for other conference’s.
King Negan
Feels a little like piling on at this point.
Lol, thanks. It’s one of those cases: of you don’t laugh you’ll cry…
One thing to remember. If a really exciting head coach is hired before these guys go somewhere else. Then they could come right back. Also other great players in the portal might decide to hang with Tennessee. Then to an extent your back!!!! STILL VERY VERY POSSIBLE!!! Maybe even likely. But it depends on the coach.
It can’t be a journeyman. Not unless he really is exciting!!! One such exciting coach if he is still around is June Jones and the run and shoot offense. But I’m not sure that will work in the SEC! It didn’t when UGA utterly destroyed Hawaii!!!! But with the right defense in place. I don’t know. I’m just thinking out loud. As far as I remember Jones was fairly honest in recruiting. I haven’t known much about his reputation. But I think he was honest. Feel free to correct me.
You probably don’t want to hear this. But how about the coach that beat you a bunch in recent years with less talent. I think Derik Mason is a great coach. He just never had the talent. It’s not because he can’t recruit. Nobody can recruit at vandy and I mean NOBODY!!! Let Saban go to vandy. Even with his name. There education standards are too high for just anybody. I’m sure Saban would get a few but not enough!!!
The only reason Saban chose Alabama is because it was Alabama!!!! They had hit a rough patch right before he arrived. But their history has always been special.
The fact is nobody is going to want to come after Saban if their any good. Alabama is in for a fall. I’ll tell you a good coach. You might not believe me but he is. In fact I can think of two!!!
I believe Ken Wissonhunt can’t spell names. But I think he is a good one or was. That Tennessee could probably hire without breaking the bank. As well as former Tennessee offensive coordinator. Who is now at DUKE if he is still there? He ain’t the youngest but he ain’t the oldest either!!! Saban is aged but looks like he could go another 20 years coaching God forbid lol. Y’all know who I’m talking about. But I forget his name. He won at Duke. Some seasons have been really good. Just a few idea’s.
PS. Probably some better names out there. Peyton Manning in my book would always make a good Tennessee coach. I kinda see him as an SEC version of Lincoln Riley.
King Negan
Part of what made Peyton manning so great. Is the same thing that made all the Manning’s great. Talent yes. But BRAINS!!! FOOTBALL BRAINS MADE THEM ALL GREAT QBS!
Think of the last time you saw two brothers. Both take they’re teams to super bowls??? I didn’t keep up with wins or losses. But I know they both went. If I’m not mistaken I believe Peyton took more than one team to the super bowl or playoffs. That doesn’t seem like too much of a big deal. Until you realize just how many elite athletes ever make a mark on the world. Very very few ever start for a minor college.
Even fewer ever play for a power 5 team. Forget starting!!! Then fewer even ever get to start at a power 5. Forget the SEC!!!! Then think of those few that start. How many become draft eligible? Of those who are DRAFT eligible even fewer get drafted.
Draft picks are bust every day. Even #1 DRAFT PICKS!!!! My point is very very very few ever play in the NFL. And of those that play. So few become Pro bowl super elite players even for a while. One season would be a LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT!!!!
Yet papa Manning is an NFL HALL OF FAME QB!!! If he isn’t already. Peyton Manning is a lock to be in the NFL HALL OF FAME!!! And little brother Eli Manning catches flack sometimes. But he was a heck of a SEC QB. A HECK OF AN NFL QB FOR YEARS. AND A SUPER BOWL QB TO!!!!
Think of the elite few who ever make it. Then realize that 3 in a row made it from the Manning household and seems like I remember someone else. But I’m going to hush. Imagine the COACHING THOSE BOYS RECEIVED TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FATHER’S FOOTSTEPS???? ITS NOT ALL TALENT!!!! ITS HOW THEY WERE RAISED AND COACHING!!!!!
PS. That is why Tennessee should do everything in their power to hire MY CHOICE MR PEYTON MANNING!!!! He is still YOUNG and can relate to recruits. He can hire Eli someday soon as QB coach. Then you have 2 manning’s!!!! Go with my pick and you’ll be sooooooooooo happy you did!!!!!
King Negan
I agree Boxster. While I love beating UT most years, I hate to see such a formerly great program in total ruins. It’s not good for UT and not good for the SEC.
I agree about the piling on. The SEC needs a strong UT. It helps all the schools and bowl possibilities.
HEY WAIT JUST A COTTON PICKING MINUTE!!!! I’m taking back my suggestions for the Tennessee coaching job. But I’ll admit Tennessee does deserve more. I mean after all those Jeremy Pruitt happy meals that were given out. We have to get more return on the investment. More bang for the buck!!!!! Well you know the old saying……
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!! In Tennessee’s case it’s very similar words but a different meaning.
TENNESSEE IS GOING TO PAY FOR WHAT THEY GOT!!!!! Seems unfair considering how little they actually got for the price tag! If it were a meal. You would say. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!
PS. SINCE WHEN DO HAPPY MEALS COST SO MUCH??? IF I WERE YOU, I WOULDN’T PAY IT!!!!
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King Negan
Say what’s the big idea of signing my name twice? Stop it now Negan before I take you to court for those happy meals you never sent!!!!!
King Negan
Looks like the NCAA will be looking at some Mississippi-type of punishment for the Vols program…gonna be while to get to six(6) wins in a season. I do hope that the remaining players dedicate themselves to giving their all for the Vols. The SEC East needs a competitive Tennessee program. I am a Bama fan but Tennessee fans deserve more than this.
Agreed viles deserve more than this; not sure we agree on the “more,” however.
kinda weird for people to be nice to us but ok. I’ve never seen Tennessee beat alabama in my life. It’s rough but I’ll always be a Tennessee fan. Also btw, this isn’t about football but whatever; I am really excited about our basketball team. But of course in basketball we have to lose to bama and florida. Also bama, could yall’s basketball chill! Your offense is insane! 60 in the first half?? Of course of all teams, bama is the best in the Sec basketball.
Yeah but they have the best O-line in CFB, that 8 game winning streak, and #1 recruiting class to hang their hat on. That’s way better than 1980.
Tacky.
Oh sorry
Poor Tennessee. I hope you improve and have undefeated seasons soon. I hope you take your rightful place as the greatest team in CFB. You deserve it!
What moron roots for other teams? Why wouldn’t you want your opponents to fail? I hope this happens to every team UGA plays. And if UGA ever gets this bad I expect their opponents to enjoy it.
We aren’t friends. Tennessee winning doesn’t help UGA. Go root for everyone to get a medal somewhere else. Pathetic.
Still tacky. Anyone that enjoys others misery is just a sad individual. You don’t have to pull for them, but relishing misery is indeed pathetic.
That’s just dumb. Enjoying your opponent fail is part of sports. It’s essential. We’re not talking about some family getting sick or losing a job. It’s a football program and fans. No one is actually being hurt. Poor attempt at virtue signaling.
You are who you are. I’ll stick with pathetic.
Actually with the way things are going down, people’s lives are changing drastically. Coaches and players. So until we get thru all this BS I have to agree with MC. Different situation than a team that just sucks. We know where we are. And the last 15 years have been more of the same. So good for you to come in here and gloat and rave about how happy you are. You’re beating a dead horse. You should be proud.
Well I’ll stick to enjoying Tennessee be trash
And those coaches are well paid. They’ll be ok.
LSUMC, he’s not wishing ill health on anyone.
This is a GAME, remember? It’s not life and death.
And they are zero-sum games. If one team loses, another has to win. From that perspective, if you hope UT wins, that means you hope their opponents lose. Which using your logic, is “tacky”.
This is poor logic, and I’ll explain why. It’s actually very simple; perception.
Right now, the SEC is, in many circles, considered the best conference in the sport. It gets the best talent, and even its worst teams could be competitive with the upper tier of every other conference. It’s that belief that allows the committee to give any competitive SEC team the benefit of a doubt for higher rankings, even when not rightly deserved. It’s why teams like UGA, UF, A&M, who haven’t won a natty in several years or more, are consistently ranked in the top 10-15. Simply put, if you can perform well in the SEC, you deserve it.
If that idea starts to diminish, then the committee starts to prioritize other teams, recruits start to look elsewhere, revenue dollars start to decline, etc.
So, no, you don’t want your opponents to look like trash and fail. You want them to look like trash and fail when playing your team, but you want them to succeed and look awesome when playing everyone else. That is how your school directly benefits from everyone being good.
CB, if they don’t understand the basics of conference play and rankings it’s hopeless.
Let them swim in the stupid pool for awhile. That Ah Ha moment eventually sinks in. Well, …..
Good points CB…but, the SEC didn’t diminish when Ole Miss was enjoying their moment in the sun, revenues did not diminish, recruiting did not suffer, the league did not slip…and by choosing TWO (defacto) ACC teams in the Top 4 CFP this year instead of a more deservning 2nd SEC team or an undefeated G5…the committee headed by Scott Stickland and company have already looked elsewhere…imho of course
Leg, good counter points. To be clear, I don’t think one-off situations will or would cause major conference implications. The SEC will continue to thrive with Tenn down. My main point is you don’t want to see this happen more often, or consistently, I.E. you actually don’t want all of your competition to be trash while yours is the only good team in a conference. Strong SEC teams mean strong SEC results.
Only the SEC cares about conference pride. It is embarrassing. Clemson does just fine. Southern Cal did not need the Pac 12 to be good when they were winning titles. Ohio St does not need the Big 10 to be good. Oklahoma does not need the Big 12 to be good.
The entire SEC could be trash and Saban will continue to win at Alabama with no issues. You keep rooting for the conference, I’ll stick to rooting for a team. I find the whole “S-E-C!” chants embarrassing and silly. The ONLY impact it has on UGA is profit sharing. And the top schools will be just fine without that. Mizzu should root for the SEC, Vandy can root for the SEC. If you are a team at the top and trying to compete for a title you don’t need that. Heck, if the SEC was a bit weaker UGA would have 1-2 more titles (2012 and 2017)
Couldn’t agree more CB…as much as I enjoy bashing the Lizards I certainly want us to beat them at their best…same with Tenn. The only team I never want to see get better is Bama, they’re good enough!
Tfk you make a valid point about the coaches. They sure do get there money for sucking.
Tfk, I’ll also add that I’d much rather beat a team that is successful and full strength, as opposed to a weak, handicapped team. Nobody would pay to see McGregor or Mayweather beat up so dude in a wheelchair.
I dont hate anyone that much. I’m just glad2bsec.
Well its called sportsmanship…or it use to be.
TFK…Since you’ve obviously missed it. Tennessee is in the Southeastern Conference, in the East. Any improvement for any SEC team benefits the SEC and improves our stature in the college football world. The SEC East now is a 2 pony show with Georgia & Florida, so we need a competitive Tennessee.
TFK, conference strength absolutely matters. The SEC being the strongest conference is the only reason UGA made it to their first National game appearance in several decades. Sure, a single mid-lower tier (currently) team getting the hammer won’t phase the overall outlook of the SEC, but imagine if this was happening to Bama, who’s success has single handedly elevated the SEC to superiority, the conference as a whole would suffer. That’s why the majority of SEC team fans pull for the conference as a whole, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. The other conferences can’t grasp that notion, and as a result will continue to play second fiddle.
Bringtherain, you make the point that went through my mind when I read TFK’s first and second posts; beating a stronger team helps your own teams’ SOS. And that helps with your national ranking and (in Georgia’s case) chance of getting into a playoff or NYD6 bowl. True, one teams’ win does mean another teams’ loss but that win by YOUR team looks better when you beat a team that finishes 9-3 vs 3-9.
“but imagine if this was happening to Bama, who’s success has single handedly elevated the SEC to superiority”
This is simply not true… the SEC was the best conference long before Saban arrived in Tuscalose. I can remember ULM and LA Tech waxing that Bama arse while Saban was coaching at LSU winning ships. Just look at this 10 year period that started the BCS era when Bama was trash if you dont believe me… numbers dont lie.
1998 Tennessee
2003 LSU
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2009 Bama
2011 Bama
2012 Bama
2015 Bama
2017 Bama
2020 Bama
Yeah…
No but 1998 is
Took y’all 47 years to get to 1998. Looks like itll take longer for the next one. 22 years and counting. Definitely worth it considering current state of your program.
41 years and counting. You shouldn’t be talking.
I acknowledge 1980. Doesn’t bother me. Love to see UGA win one but outside that it’s still great to watch them play. It’s the ultimate goal but not the only thing that matters in CFB. It’s not title or trash. Levels to it. Really dumb to think can’t talk trash unless team is defending national champion.
Y’all just had the worst season for a defending champion maybe ever, LSUSMC. So what gives you the “right” to talk to anyone?
Any bit of logic can be twisted any which way y’all want.
We’ve won three SEC Titles and 5 BCS / NY6 bowls and a Playoff Gamr since Tennessee did any of that.
To say we can’t trash them because 1998 came after 1980 is the dumbest, lowest level of logic there is.
Be better, devil dog.
I’m actually with you on this one, TFK. Every fan wants their team to be competitive and win championships, but the reality is, outside of crazy, genius outliers like Saban, fans are typically lucky to see a couple of championships in their lifetimes. International football (soccer) fans understand this very well. They understand that getting the top prize is rare, and enjoy solid performances.
UGA has a lot to be proud of in the past few years, and a big part of their fan base has the memory of celebrating a national championship. I consider myself very fortunate, as I was in college when UF won 2x football and 2x basketball nattys. Those experiences can never be repeated.
Learn to enjoy your teams’ successes.
Uh oh, a UGA and Florida fan on the same page!!!
And thanks, appreciate it. That was def. a great time for be a Florida fan. Very few fans of any school will experience a run like that.
Well I’ve seen 3 LSU nattys in my lifetime, and technically we were awarded a fourth by some polls in 2011, so I could claim 4… its more legit than half of bamas so called 17 so why not?
Great programs like LSU expect to win the natty… its why coach whiteboots will be on the hot seat if he doesn’t perform next year… this business is about results. All that whimpering you dog fans make about almost winning is pathetic. Geaux tigahs.
TFK_Fanboy (emphasis on “boy”) really sounds like a whiny little….
Taking pleasure in beating a rival is perfectly fine; enjoying their struggles as families and people is just downright sadistic. (Which you are.)
I’ve run across a bunch of cool, classy, and informed UGA fans on my SEC journey but I’ve also seen some real scummy little people too.
You’re a candidate for leader of the latter.
Oh my!! You’re really stupid for this post. Tennessee is trash and I love it. I’m not cheering on some poor family, you nitwit. I love Tennessee being trash and it’s loser fans like you crying like AOC at an empty parking lot.
TFK=troll.
afan = dumb
Woof. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, you see the iceberg dead ahead. Unless we get some kind of superstar coach (which our history since Fulmer does not indicate will happen), we are rock bottom. Vandy, USCe, UK, take advantage while you can. I see many homecoming games with UT as the visitor in our future. :-/
I’m a young guy and even I recognize that today’s kids cant handle adversity.
This isn’t adversity. This is the Titanic an hour after making contact with the iceberg.
Firing a horrible coach and hiring one who could be better is just adversity. The sanctions dont hurt the players themselves
This comment wins the internet
You’re really insulting the intelligence of not only TN fans but fans in general with this garbage. Low hanging fruit is boring, think of something else for once.
SDS doesn’t care, as long as you clicked the link. Which you did.
True that.
Favored vs South Alabama, Bowling Green, and Vandy, toss up at home vs. rebuilding South Carolina? Every other game seems unlikely at this point.
I think their game vs USC will be interesting. Measuring stick for each program to see who is improving. I think USC wins it but it’ll be a good one to watch.
Are you kidding? We will be lucky to win anything. Especially if yesterday is just the beginning. If it continues, I would argue we are just doing more damage by playing than just cancelling the season and calling it a self-imposed sanction.
Still a P5 team. Should definitely still win a few games. Few good assistant hires and Tennessee could definitely win 5 games next year. And that’s not an insult. With everything that’d be huge and start to right the current train wreck. Look at how Ark improved without cupcake games and the refs against them.
Lol yeah just like we should have beat GA ST too. And BYU. I will say we have one thing going on that we’ve moved on to another QB at least.
get a grip justafan. You are way overreacting.
I guess we will see.
You can’t just quit. If you do that you will never recover.
Nope. Stand up. Stand tall. Get on the field and get in the stands. Support your team. Things will get better.
Today’s youth. No sense of loyalty.
Are you talking about Cade Mays?
Yes, I couldn’t believe that he picked Georgia straight out of high school.
Funny how Vol Nation’s perspective on that has changed, right?
Orange spectacles etc.
College being a stepping stone to the NFL is the hope of most players. It’s hard to blame the kids. Tennessee should use this opportunity to build for the future. Look for the right AD to look for the right coach. Market this. Use this to bring the boosters and fanbase together whom have been divided these last 15 years or so at different points. Texas and Oklahoma worked the Big 12 to their advantage and to the disadvantage of the rest of the teams and see what happened to the Big 12 as a result. It’s a sh!t conference where it’s about Oklahoma now. I want to see Tennessee competitive. It’s no good having teams that aren’t competitive.
Well they made a solid hire for AD. Good start.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
And the hits keep on coming for the Hillbilly Vawls!
Can’t have happened to a more arrogant fanbase!
As a Georgia fan who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s, the last few days have been filled with the sweetest schadenfreude. I can’t wait for even more shows to drop and more hilarious misery for all you hillbillies!
Nothing Sucks Like A Big Orange!
The Georgia fanbase is the most arrogant in all of sports besides the Dallas Cowboys
And the Tennessee football team is one of the worst in all of sports!
Aaaand you just made his point.
nothing I said involved arrogance. Do you know what that word means?
Have you ever made a relevant comment? Something not just trash talk? If you grew up in the 80’s you should have matured a little by now.
With the current transfer rules and the huge numbers of (decommits/transfers/transfers pending) is Tenn going to have enough players to field a full team?
Has anyone done the numbers yet? It is getting pretty thin in Knoxville.
That’s why the column mentioned walk-ons.
Dear Eric Gray and Henry To’o To’o,
Mizzou just sent Larry Rountree and Nick Bolton to the NFL and currently have openings at RB and LB. You’d look better in black and gold anyway.
Sincerely,
Mizzou
I see 10 losses coming.
I see another UK season with no national title or even SEC East title
I see the same for Tennessee!
Diesel ask UK about 0-31!
At this point, I can think of one coach who knows a lot about rebuilding a program from the ashes. That is Coach Bill Clark of UAB. He took a program that was shut down completely and rebuilt it into a winner.
Not a bad choice…he’s done some pretty amazing stuff there for sure.
This is the truth. UAB’s administration was even a dumpster fire, and he brought the entire program back up, like a Phoenix.
It was only a few days ago the battle cry was “there is still aot of talent in Knoxville and the right coach can win immediately” to this dumpster fire. New AD is a good start. Now get a coach to right the ship. Aim high, PR couldn’t get any worse if you whiff on some candidates now.
If things get any worse Vandy won’t be the only team in the state with female players.
Ouch.
Lol
What’s Matt Luke up to these days? This seems to be his specialty, and he has TN history. I thought Mississippi moved on a bit too quickly from him. He wouldn’t be a splash hire, and he’s not going to turn 2020 into 1998 in a season, but he understands the player development portion of the job very well.
Shhhhh, He’s fine at Uga right now, thank you very much…
Luke is doing what he should continue doing at Georgia. He was not ever head coach material. Many good coordinators jump at the big $$$ of being ahead coach but have little idea of exactly what they’re getting into.
As bad as it seems, you guys are still one John L. Smith, and a Chad Morris away from completely bottoming out. Certainly thing are bad, but they could be much worse.
I think the only step down for UT at this point would be to get SMU’ed. I know that’s not going to happen but from my view that’s about the only floor left on their elevator that only goes down.
We lost to WKU at home, with an Arky, and former Hog who Morris ran off, playing quarterback. It can always get worse.
Morris has got to be the dumbest multi-millionaire con-man on the planet. I think he was the reason that Malzahn got canned, like the final nail in his box.
Man… I remember when UT used to own my team UGA. So strange to see them in this spot
I used to think Tennessee was the new Nebraska. Now they’re the new SMU.
Big 12 should try to get Nebraska and Missouri to come back.
Champion has become Chumpion. Look at what is the chancellor and how that is being run. I hope the NCAA provides mercy killing and suspends the whole thing for next fall. Losing to Kentucky and Vandy because of no players and a lameduck loser head coach that won two games at Baylor and gave up 70 points to WVa in the Orange Bowl, is simply too ugly to contemplate…. Will Bama score a 100 will morph into will Bama score 100 in the first half? Will the Ga Tech single game scoring record against another Tennessee school fall? Please shut it down.
As a University of Alabama graduate who lived in Knoxville for 10 years and took on Tennessee as my second team, it pains me to see the continuous difficulties they are going through. However, just as Bama went through such difficulties before Saban got on board, this too shall pass. Tennessee fans just have to be patient, get the right coach in the job, and give him the time and support to get the program back on track. I know… much easier said than done. However, the fans must have the faith and patience to go through the painful years until it is accomplished. There is no instant gratification, no matter how much they hope for it.
My biggest complaint about Tennessee fans over the years is how much they hate Alabama… As I told many of my VOLS friends, I have never seen fans who would rather see another team (Bama) lose, than see their team (Tennessee) win. Unfortunately for them, they have not been able to see either for several years…
Hang in there Tennessee… You will survive this,
Success breeds hate in sports, business and politics. It just comes with the territory.
Coach & QB are the two most important positions to a program. By a mile.
TN seems to be headed for an upgrade to both. (They upgraded QB the moment JG entered the portal.)
The Vols need to hope for a return to normal scheduling in 2021. If so, the schedule is favorable and they will certainly win more games than they did in 2020 (which isn’t saying much).
Top 10 in revenue
Top 5 stadium
Top 5 mascot (biased)
Top fan base (crazy but see revenue)
Checkerboard – Power T – Rocky Top
Like Michigan, they haven’t done anything lately, but we’re talking about them because they are still a national brand.
But man, they need to nail this hire. Then, recruit Arch Manning and all will be forgiven. Ha!
Winning changes everything. And they haven’t been winning.
Some of that may be true….. but “top five stadium”??? You really need to get out more often.
May i borrow your rose colored glasses?
Arch Manning??? Thats hilarious. Top 5 stadium? Ridiculous. Maybe SEC Top 5 . Maybe. National Brand? Yeah , Vols have one allright: Its in the discontinued section .
Everybody but Vanderbilt thinks their stadium is top five. The SEC has 13 Top Five stadiums at last count.
Have you been there? I have. Its a generic old dump with too narrow seats. Bama , Ga stadiums put it to shame. SC and Auburn are better too imo. Lsu about the same. Ive never been to Swamp, just Jax
lmfao
Henry T is an outstanding player, and so is Eric Grey, but if any of those two took money….word is 50 grand, then neither of them are welcome at UT. Just my opinion.
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If they took money UT offered it. There really is no high ground.
UT is going to be a dumpster fire for the next 5 years, and there is nothing the new AD can do about it. I hope he has a long term contract.
This is going to be a complete rebuild for the Vols, from the ground up. It’s going to be a long haul.
If UT paid players then riddle me this. Hth did we not pay our best players?
Poor job by Human Resources department?
Ha Ha. Not bad Bama. My point is everyone that is wanting these guys at their school might want to watch what they wish for. Sure, good players but is there no concern they will face some sort of sanction/suspension as well?
I crack up at the posts complaining about “todays youth”. That narrative has been going on forever. I can remember when my generation ( the 70s) was the one that was going to cause ruin. Todays young people are not bad, just different in different times.
Would it be crazy to dream back to back wins vs the Vols? I want to say no but as a long time CATS fan I’ve seen 20 or so years of a down UT program still beating my CATS consistently. But I’ll go with yes it’s likely we get the “W” this fall. Go CATS!!!
The University of Tennessee has to have some PATIENCE!! Nothing is going to happen overnight. Tennessee has gotten themselves in this mess , because they have no patience. Nobody will coach there for that very reason. Wake up!!!
When is Finebaum going to coin a new phrase. Dumpster fire is getting real tired. Its like everyone that uses it thinks they are the one using it for the first time.
Train wreck, Goat rodeo, Clusterf *** all come to mind