17Tide: You keep using this word “holistically” speaking. I’m unsure whether or not you’re using this term correctly. Is it your intention for the fellow readers to view OU & USC “historically” speaking? Or “holistically” speaking? If you are, in fact, talking about a “holistic” view of these programs, then your theory is even more skewed. Holistic means to look at the whole system of why thinks are happening the way that they are. And BOTH of these programs have benefited from playing in extremely weak conferences WHEN they were winning. Sure OU won a bunch of conference titles. That’s gonna happen when it’s OU & nobody else. Texas had a FEW good years & even won a title against USC. They even made a BCS appearance in 09. So, at best, the Big 12 is a 2 team conference. In the past 20 years, there’s only been 2 Big 12 teams win a total of 2 CFB titles. Conversely in that time period, there’s been 4 SEC teams win a total of 11 titles. So, “holistically” speaking, OU has won a bunch of conference titles because they’ve benefited from a weak conference. And then when they get into the playoffs or Bowl games, they get BLASTED. And “historically” speaking, 1 title in 20 years should NOT elevate them those on “Tier 2”. These same arguments also hold true for USC.
Lowhound: Class? WTH would Bama fans know about “class”?? News flash. It’s not only that thing that you started skipping in the 6th grade. The “Alabama Fighting Updykes” have zero credibility regarding the concept of class, when they commit sexual battery (teabagging) of an unconscious LSU fan. Or when they commit battery against OU fans at the Sugar Bowl. Or when they kill another fan for not showing “sufficient grief” after the Kick six loss. Now THAT is some REAL CLASS right there. (Sarcasm noted here). Therefore, for future reference, when discussing the topic of the “class” of college football fans, please abstain from voting & leave the room. Harvey Updyke has already voted for you.
Oh, and I forgot to mention how LSU “barely” won. The game was never in doubt. After the second quarter, Bama NEVER ONCE had possession of the ball with the chance to tie or take the lead. They always had the ball trailing by 2 TDs. And had our All American FRESHMAN DB not been caught getting instructions from the sideline & been put into press coverage with just over a minute left in the game, it would’ve been MUCH WORSE. With LSU’s prolific offense, the game was never in doubt. And nice try with the “injury depleted” EXCUSE. It’s amusing that the “injury depleted” theory is NEVER justified, UNLESS Bama is the one using it?? Crazy how that happens? Hypocritical much? LOL.
USMC0331: Spell check police? Lmao. What does spell check have to do with math. You’re getting your grammar school subjects mixed up. Let me put this into a context that you might relate to: When the bank comes to foreclose on your double wide trailer, you cannot use the logic of making 8 years worth of on time payments, instead of the full 10 years. See?? Math is tricky that way. 8 is less than 10. Just saying.
Across every fan base in college football, Bama fans should be the LAST ones to be critical of someone else. The VERY LAST ones. Shall I offer a litany of examples? Or maybe perhaps I only have to note the likes of Harvey Updyke & the sexual battery of the “teabagger”? Enough said.
I know that arithmetic has never been considered an asset by Bama fans; however, I was always led to believe that a decade was 10 years instead of 8. But I guess that’s par for the course, as Gumps always round up for convenience?? Numbers that aren’t multiples of 5 are tricky that way, right?
I’m not naive enough to think that Brady will be at LSU 10 years from now. Probably not even another 5. However, I do think that he will be at LSU next year & quite possibly the year after that. And I’m sure that other college teams & some NFL teams will come courting. But I don’t see him jumping ship to become the OC for just ANY team. Or even the HC for some obscure FCS team. I would imagine that he would take enough time to insure that it would be somewhere that is the right fit, with great growth potential. As for his status at LSU, I’m sure that they are gonna make sure he’s gets a hefty raise with an offer that will be difficult to pass on for the short term anyway.
It’s probably a good thing that you’re unemployed. It would be a horrible thing to lose your job just after Christmas, due to a failed drug test.
That’s not true. I’ll be rooting for Bama again this year. And I DESPISE Alabama. Just as I DESPISE every other team in the SEC. While I hate Bama, I respect them & their talent. But I don’t respect teams outside of the SEC, as their conference schedule is just not as tough. Therefore, I LOATHE the other teams. So, frankly, I hope Alabama beats Hairball enough to send his arrogant @$$ back to being an assistant in the NFL. I hate the Aggies & was so thrilled that LSU put a curb stomping on them in last game of the season. But I was almost equally thrilled to see them beat Ok State. So, I don’t like any other team in the SEC, but I DETEST those outside of it. SEC “homer”?? Maybe. But I’m also aware that it’s where the best CFB is played. And from the BCS era to the CFP, the facts speak for themselves.
Hmm?? So, by your logic, only a small part of Louisiana is in the “South”?? Didn’t realize that. So many historical moments all wiped out by being on the wrong side of the Mississippi River. I guess that’s kind of understandable. New Orleans (origin for the term “Dixie”) IS on the East side of the river.
Uhhh?? Lmao. Apparently, geography is not your strength. Houston (where this kid is from) is actually MUCH further south than Athens, Georgia. So?? Maybe you meant “Welcome NORTH Brother”??
Wait? What? A Mississippi State fan talking sh!t about “LSWho”?? Dude, you’ve got no (and I mean NO) credence to call ANYONE “who”, least of all to LSU. Your TOWN is so obscure that it’s the height of sarcasm when it’s referred to “Stark Vegas”, because there isn’t sh!t in that town. Unless things have changed since I was last there, not only do the few bars there close at 12, they bouncers actually take your drink out of your hand at 11:45. So, yeah, I’m sure that your “delicate sensibilities” would be shattered by the alcohol consumption of LSU fans. If I remember correctly, we so had to wait until after noon to purchase beer at the liquor store on the day of the game. That’s just PITIFUL. And BTW: That trite expression of “LSWho”? By chance do you know what word the “who” part of that has replaced?? University. As in Mississippi State UNIVERSITY. In fact, I’ve seen several of your logos with “MSU”. In fact, the vast majority of colleges competing in the NCAA have “University” in their name. The “WhoSC” vs. Iowa game is on now. In the CFB playoffs tomorrow, the LSU Tigers play the “OWho” Sooners. Then Clemson plays the “OSWho” Buckeyes. Hmm?? Imagine that. Well, never mind, as you certainly CAN’T. The MSWho Bulldogs haven’t even sniffed a national championship, much less won one. Meanwhile, LSU has two nattys this century & played in another. Your cowbells & bull pups?? Not so much. Therefore, go back to the end of the line & wait for a semblance of being relevant before trying to call ANYONE out. Were it not for an Ole Piss player hiking his leg, your puppies wouldn’t even have been ELIGIBLE for a Bowl.
Personally, I can’t say that I would blame Coach O for advising his friend Kiffin to not take the Ole Miss job. In my opinion, I don’t think it would be a good fit for either the university or Kiffin. If you’re an Ole Miss fan, ask yourself this: Is Lane Kiffin going to be your head coach in 5 years? And the answer is unequivocally NO. There are only 2 possible outcomes of Kiffin’s tenure at Ole Miss. He either wins games or he doesn’t. If he doesn’t win a BUNCH of games for them, he’ll be fired. If he DOES?? Do you really think that he will stay there if he makes them a dominant force?? Hell no. If he left Tennessee (a program with a much more storied history than Ole Miss) after 1 year, he will DEFINITELY leave Oxford when greater opportunities come along. I can fathom Oregeron staying at LSU until he decides to retire. And definitely Saban stays at Bama until he decides to retire. And Fisher & Mullens, etc. But Kiffin? Nah, not a chance. Either he sucks & is fired. Or he’s awesome & bolts for the NFL or some other high profile college position. It would be funny as hell to see him take Chip Kelly’s place at UCLA in 4 or 5 years.
For all of the OSU fans that are clamoring about the Buckeyes SOS & feeling “slighted”, here’s something to ponder: The LSU Tigers & the Buckeyes are both 13-0. But let’s look at who the Tigers have beaten this year en route to their perfect record. This season, LSU has beaten FOUR different teams that have won a national championship in this century. They’ve beaten Texas, who has 1. They’ve beaten Auburn, also with 1. LSU also beat Florida this year, who has had 2. And the Tigers also won IN Tuscaloosa to Bama, who has had 5. That’s beating 4 teams with a total of 9 national championships between them in this century. I know that many of you will say, “Yeah, but that’s the PAST.” And to an extent that’s a relevant context. But it DOES show that the teams that the Tigers have beaten THIS YEAR, have been a RELEVANT contender in the more recent national football landscape. And for context, let’s look at the other 3 teams in this year’s College Football Playoff. OSU played 0 teams with a natty THIS century. Clemson? 0. Oklahoma? 1. (The same Texas team that we beat by the same point differential IN Austin, compared to their neutral site game). So, I would say that these facts are highly indicative of the strength of LSU’s schedule, as opposed to that of OSU.
Jomo: How did that work out for you?? This is what happens when you pay the refs off to give you 7 OTs for a win. And then start fights afterwards & talk smack for a year. You get BLASTED like the proverbial “red headed stepchild”!! Let that be a lesson to the Aggies. Y’all still haven’t actually WON a game against LSU since joining the SEC. Sure the Aggies were GIFTED one last year, but this is what happens when you cheat. 50-7 and it could’ve been WORSE. Joe Burreaux played 1 snap in the 4th. Could have been much worse. I don’t normally talk smack. So to the rest of the Aggie fans out there, I apologize. But to Jomo, this is what you get for your sh!t talking after a cheater’s victory last year.
“When you are not used to winning at this level”?? WHAT?? Please share with us to which team your loyalty lies?? Which team that is SO dominant that they make LSU’s level of winning appear so paltry? Please enlighten us? Just FYI, LSU has 2 national titles this century & played in another. Therefore, there can’t be but a couple teams that you could say has a better track record of success in this century. Florida has 2 national titles this century. Yeah, we beat them earlier this year. Ohio State has 2 as well. Ironically one of LSU’s national titles was a blowout win over them. Is Clemson your team? As they’ve got 2 as well. And, yes, they eeked out a win against us the last time that we played. But, they’ve had the weakest schedule of any of the CFP contenders. So?? I’m guessing that you’re a Bama fan? Yup, they’ve had a LOT of success this century. HOWEVER, I wonder what would happen if LSU played Bama in Tuscaloosa this year? Wait, they DID play this year. And Bama’s 30+ home game winning streak came to an end. (RTW?FU). So, before you climb to your “elitist throne”, you may wanna check yoself, before you wreck yoself!?!?
What in the h3ll are you even talking about? By NCAA rules they shouldn’t be 10-0?? I was unaware that there WAS a rule that said that you’re not supposed to win 10 games. And why is the Tigers O line responsible for that? Are you insinuating that the LSU offense wouldn’t be as prolific if it weren’t for the O line committing holding penalties? Please. That’s absurd. The O line didn’t play great against the Rebels, but they didn’t play horrible. They gave up some sacks, of which some were coverage sacks. (The intended target on one play was knocked to the ground at the 5 yard line & had to settle for the first FG). But the O line wasn’t the problem for the “mere 21 point” win. It was the Defense. It was taking bad angles & piss poor tackling. It was only rushing 3 DL & playing 15 yards off the line. Essentially, the LSU D was in “prevent defense” after going up by 21. The problem is that Ole Miss doesn’t PASS to score quickly; they RUN. Even the commentators mentioned that the Rebel coaches had said as much. When the D only rushes 3, the LBs are 10 yards off the line, the DBs 15, the Rebel line created creases that the speedy QB could exploit. Throw in those crappy angles & horrible tackling? And the Tigers D looks like crap. Aranda has got to get his head out of his @$$. Last week we were playing press coverage at the line with a 12 point lead & under 2 minutes to play against Bama?? To Bama with 3 of the best WRs in the country & Aranda wants to play press coverage under 2 minutes?? That’s just CRAZY!!
Yeah, you’re right. That is EXACTLY where it needs to come from. Aranda is really starting to slip.
Hey Bama fans: On behalf of the LSU fan base, our thoughts & prayers go out to Tua & the Bama community. I really HATE that for him. That’s just something that you don’t want to ever happen. Sure football is a dangerous sport, but you NEVER wanna see someone injured, whether that’s on your team or an opponents. In times like this, you really aren’t even concerned with the implications to his football career. You just wish him a speedy & healthy recovery. Sending thoughts & prayers to him and his family. Best wishes, Tua.
For the record, I think that Bama is a great team. NOT the overwhelming juggernauts that they have been in the past, but a great team. Their D (most notably their D line) is not the impenetrable wall that it once was, but they are still good. With that being said, they don’t deserve to be in the top 4. In fact, I’d probably slot them even a little lower. I think that I’d at least put Oregon in front of them. Granted, they only have 1 loss, as does Oregon. Oregon’s loss was to Auburn on a NEUTRAL field, whereas Bama’s was to LSU on their HOME field. So, maybe an ever so slight advantage to Oregon there. The difference lies in the rest of the schedule. Bama’s other wins are just not that impressive. Sure they won by 50 or such, but it was Duke, New Mexico State, etc. And A&M was already falling fast. UGA has a really bad loss, but at least they have 2 good wins to counteract that. Bama doesn’t. So, UGA’s horrible loss & 2 ranked wins is better than Bama’s ranked loss & NO ranked wins. While I still think that Bama is a great team, in my opinion that got undone (MOSTLY) by their weak non conference schedule, and playing weaker opponents from the East. Yes, I’m aware that one of those weaker East opponents was the very team that beat UGA. But, again, NO quality wins, whereas UGA beat ND & Florida.
So, Pam?? This is your first time watching college football, huh?? Most certainly watching LSU play. Just by some crazy chance, would you happen to know what letter Louisiana State University (LSU) starts with. I know that “alphabet thing” can be kinda “tricky” at times?? But I’ll give you a hint, it’s in the shape of that very letter that Burrow was signaling. That’s right, it’s an “L”. While Bama DID tote the “L”, that’s NOT what Burrow or the other Tigers were signaling. In fact, when young recruits declare the intent to commit to LSU in the off season, they often flash the “L” to show their commitment. As for post game videos & class?? There is NO way that a Bama fan can EVER claim the “high ground”. NEVER. At least LSU fans don’t poison 100+ year old trees, fight OU fans in the stands at the Sugar Bowl, kill other relatives for not showing the proper amount of grief after an Iron Bowl loss, or commit a SEXUAL ASSAULT by “T bagging” an unconscious LSU fan in a Krystal Burger in New Orleans. So???? Bama fans & class are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. Therefore, get back to us when you have even an INKLING about football & “class”!?!? lol
Take away the 17 points in turnovers? Are you kidding me?? Ok, fine. Let’s take those away. Forget about those 17 points, done. But, if we take away THOSE mistakes, then let’s apply that BOTH ways. Take away the botched punt coverage. Racey McMath should’ve just held on to the face mask, brought him down, & the Tigers give up 15 yards & not the TD. (That’s 7 points). Take away the 66 yard TD pass against Stingley, since he was being distracted by his own sideline (another 7 points). And take away the 85 yard TD late in the game, due to said freshman DB playing press coverage with a 12 point lead under 2 minutes (another 7). Take away the breakdown on special teams that allowed a extra point to get blocked (1 point). Hmmm?? Ok. We will forget about those 17 points off of Bama’s miscues. And you forget about those 22 points of LSU’s miscues. By my math, that’s a net of 5 additional points for LSU. The Tigers win by 10, instead of 5. That sounds logical to me!?!? You can’t have it BOTH ways.
While I agree with you for the most part, there is one stark contrast. Bama has 1 loss (granted, that’s to a higher ranked team), but really no signature wins. I guess one could make a theoretical argument about the win against aTm, since the aggies were ranked #24 at the time. But still that’s not that impressive. While UGA has a loss as well (granted that’s to an unranked USC), they also have wins against 2 ranked teams. And those 2 wins are against teams that are still ranked in the top 25. Bama only has 1 remaining game against a ranked opponent (Auburn). UGA also only has one remaining ranked opponent (again Auburn). However, UGA is in the drivers seat for the SEC East. Which means that they’ll probably be in Atlanta facing ANOTHER ranked team. Therefore, UGA will have faced 4 ranked teams & be the SEC East champ. Whereas Bama will have only faced 3 (really only 2 & a half since A&M is no longer ranked). UGA’s resume’ is still stronger than Bama’s even with their loss to USC.
I knew that there was gonna be at least one of you Bama fans out there that was gonna start making excuses. As surely as death & taxes, there had to be at least one (probably thousands more) of you with the excuses. As for the game itself, LSU could have & SHOULD have beaten the tide a lot worse. The Tigers special teams played like crap. Missed tackle/ face mask for a punt return TD. Blocked extra point. That’s 8 points right there. Our true freshman DB got caught taking instructions from the sidelines for a TD. The same freshman DB playing press coverage with a 12 point lead under 2 minutes? WHY? They should’ve had 4 safeties dropped 20 yards off the ball. That’s inexplicable. And don’t start whining about the refs, because for EVERY “controversial call” that went for LSU, I can show you another that went Bama’s way. (Burrows first incompletion? The WR was basically horse collared. Face mask on Burrow’s run that didn’t get called, thereby forcing a FG. And there’s others). So don’t start throwing out excuses about the refs. And as for mistakes? That goes BOTH ways. If you’re gonna use mistakes as an excuse for why Bama didn’t win. Then LSU gets to use that same logic to show why they should’ve beaten the tide WORSE. As for your SOS? There’s not a lot to say. The teams that you’ve faced from the East definitely don’t help your case. LSU has beaten Vandy & Florida. Vandy ain’t all that, but Florida is. That’s a lot better than Tennessee & South Carolina. Your non conference is a JOKE. And from the West, the only team that has a pulse that you’ve beaten is aTm. That’s not that impressive. Personally, I think that the tide will lose to Auburn. I could be wrong, but they’ve got an outstanding defense, especially up front. Regardless, of what happens later on, you can drop the excuses. Whether those excuses be about Tua’s injury or “mistakes”. Isn’t that what y’all told us last year when Devin White was suspended for the first half of the game. “NO EXCUSES”?? I guess that doesn’t apply for Bama fans?? lol
Joe: Tua is a great QB. But not their best ever. Sure he’s thrown more yards than all of those others. But it’s a completely different era than back then. I’d almost bet that Tua has attempted more passes in his time at Bama than those other three did COMBINED. That’s not even comparing apples to oranges. That’s like comparing oranges to tennis balls. Both spherical, but not remotely alike outside of shape.
Personally, I never understood the notion that Alabama considered themselves to be the heart of Dixie. Granted, the country music band Alabama made the hit song “Dixieland Delight” back in the early 80s. But the heart of Dixie & the origin of that term is not about Alabama. The term Dixie came from the bills of currency that traders were paid in New Orleans. They traded their wares for French bills paid in denominations of 10 or dix (pronounced deese). And that’s the origin of Dixie.
First of all, NO. He re-established himself in the field of play. Secondly, it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. Because, I believe that if they looked closer, they’d see that the defender touched the ball first, by a fingertip. If the defender touches the ball FIRST, it doesn’t matter if the WR went out of bounds or not. IF HE DIDN’T re-establish himself (which he DID), then he can still catch a tipped pass. And I’d say that the INT just before the half was a bigger stunning moment than anything. Lot of football left. So, we’ll have to see how it plays out. But LSU’s special teams have essentially given up 8 points that could come back to haunt them. So, I’m not gonna count anything out just yet. Hopefully, my Tigers keep the pedal to the metal & come away with the W.
If you look at the body of work for THIS season, then yeah, LSU deserves the #1 ranking. However, I wouldn’t really have a problem with Bama staying at #1 either. Because these two great football teams are gonna have to settle it on the field in a couple of weeks anyway. But I DO find it laughable that Ohio State fans are clamoring that they should be at the top. Because up until this weekend, they have played NOBODY. Florida Atlantic, Cincinnati, Indiana, Miami of Ohio, Nebraska, Michigan State, Northwestern? Granted, Cincinnati is ranked NOW, but they should NOT be. Nebraska? Michigan State? Both of those had fallen out of the rankings before OSU even played them. Speaking of Nebraska, why in the world do big10 fans claim there’s an SEC bias? How in the world was Nebraska even remotely ranked THIS year if there wasn’t a big10 bias. The Huskers were 4-8 last year, but started out ranked #24. Really? I’d say that’s a little biased there, because they weren’t & aren’t worth a crap (4-4 right now). So now the Buckeyes are staking a claim to the top spot because they beat Wisky (#18)?? The same Wisky team that just previously got beat by a 31 point underdog team? So, OSU has nothing to complain about with their not being at the top spot. While Bama’s strength of schedule THUS FAR is not that impressive, it will all shake out in two weeks anyway. Therefore, it doesn’t really matter if LSU or Bama is at #1 right NOW. Whomever wins on November 9th will clearly & rightfully be the #1 team in the country. Hopefully (for me) that will be LSU. Gonna be an immensely difficult game to win, but hopefully the Tigers are up to the task. Geaux Tigers.
While playing high school football DECADES ago, my coach once called a timeout JUST so that he could walk out onto the field, grab our WR by the face mask, twist his head to the side, & start smacking him on the helmet with the heel of his hand, and loudly berating him. Although it’s rather funny how times have now, those of us standing in the huddle at the time were momentarily shocked. Of course, if we had EVER thought about “backtalking” our coach before, we certainly did NOT ever think about it again. However, Pruitt should realize that times HAVE changed. And although, I don’t really think that there’s a problem with what he actually DID there, it does somewhat call into question his ability to show constraint. If Pruitt can’t restrain himself from grabbing a players face mask in front 100K fans & a national tv audience?? Then there’s no telling what he does at practice?? And that’s what MANY recruits & their parents are going to be wondering in a couple months on NSD. Just saying.
I don’t know of ANY LSU fan that would be looking past Auburn. I’m certainly not. Firstly, because it’s the NEXT game, and that’s the one that needs to be focused on. Secondly, the Auburn D line is outstanding. Burrow is an AWESOME QB, but he’s gotta be able to work his magic. If they are getting consistent pressure & in his face the whole time, it really puts a damper on LSU’s vaunted passing attack. IF the LSU O line protects Joe all game long, then LSU wins fairly easy. But IF NOT, then it comes down to a slugfest of the running game. And if that’s the case, then who knows what happens. So, I’m NOT worried about what’s going on with Bama right now. I’ll turn my attention to them AFTER the Auburn game.