Week 8 SEC QB Power Rankings: Jake Fromm has as much to prove as ever
Quarterbacks: There are a lot of them! Each week throughout the season, SEC QB Power Rankings will help you keep the game’s most important position in perspective by ranking the SEC starters 1-14 according to highly scientific processes and/or pure gut-level instinct. Previously: Week 1 … Week 2 … Week 3 … Week 4 … Week 5 … Week 6 … Week 7.
1. Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama
Texas A&M threw a lot against the wall against Tagovailoa in obvious passing situations, some of which actually worked. Blitzing on 3rd-and-10?
You think Tua likes the slant route? pic.twitter.com/5U5TWmqab0
— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) October 12, 2019
Not so much! Who could have guessed. The win in College Station marked Tua’s 11th career game with at least four touchdown passes and his fifth of the season.
Tank for Tua Watch: The Miami Dolphins took a commanding lead in the race to the bottom of the NFL standings on Sunday with a dramatic, 17-16 “loss” vs. Washington, an historic battle of winless and hopeless teams decided on a failed 2-point conversion. (Or … uh, wildly successful 2-point conversion? Is it a failure if you’re actively trying to lose?) That left the Phins with an incredible 89 percent chance of landing the No. 1 overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, according to ESPN’s Football Power Index — vastly better than the league’s only other winless team, Cincinnati, which has just a 6.7 percent chance despite a miserable, 0-6 start of its own. The Bengals’ Week 16 trip to Miami looms impossibly large. (Last week: 1)
2. Joe Burrow, LSU
It says a lot about Burrow’s dominance over the first half of the season that he’s graduated from a “moxie” guy to a mainstay in the Heisman race in the span of 6 weeks. Saturday’s 24-of-27, 293-yard, 3-TD effort against Florida left him slightly ahead of Tagovailoa and Jalen Hurts as the national leader in pass efficiency; in the specific components that make up that metric he’s 1st in completion percentage, 2nd in passing yards, 2nd in yards per attempt, and tied for 2nd in touchdowns, where he’s just 3 off the single-season LSU record. (Last week: 2)
3. Jake Fromm, Georgia
Georgia obliterated the Fromm Line against South Carolina, putting the ball in the air 51 times en route to a double-OT defeat and an existential crisis over the state of the offense as a whole. You know the drill here: The Bulldogs are 29-1 over the past 3 years when Fromm comes in under 30 attempts and 0-5 when he goes over.
That still says more about UGA’s preferred style of play than it does about Fromm himself — he throws more when the team struggles, not the other way around — but it hardly seems like a coincidence that the most pass-happy outing of his career was also the worst. The only comparable performance from an efficiency standpoint was last year’s mid-October loss at LSU, in which Fromm was sacked 4 times, picked twice, and ended with a career-low passer rating of 96.6; on Saturday, he went down 3 times with 3 picks, including his first career pick-6 under heavy pressure, with a 98.2 rating. He averaged just 5.8 yards per attempt, narrowly missing a new career low, and managed just one completion of 20 yards or more. He blew a key scoring opportunity on a fumbled snap.
Still, even Fromm’s worst day was a long way from a meltdown. Not all of the INTs were his fault: The pick-6 was a disaster, but the second looked like a busted route by the intended receiver, and the third hit WR Tyler Simmons in the hands. Neither resulted in points for South Carolina. The majority of his completions (18-of-28) went for 1st downs, including 8 3rd-down conversions. With his back against the wall late, he engineered his first 4th-quarter comeback drive, a 96-yard march that evened the score with less than 2 minutes to play.
In many ways, Fromm is in one of the best positions of any FBS quarterback, surrounded by a team that doesn’t need him to smash records to win a championship. In other ways, though, it’s unforgiving: Because he’s not an awe-inspiring talent or Heisman-level star on the order of Tagovailoa or Trevor Lawrence, the rare losses tend to come with more loaded questions about his ceiling. Does he really have what it takes to take Georgia all the way? Last year, the midseason loss at LSU sparked a brief but very real debate over whether ludicrously talented backup Justin Fields deserved a shot at supplanting Fromm; this year, Fields’ emergence as a bona fide dude at Ohio State has only raised the stakes.
All of the Bulldogs’ big-picture goals are still intact, albeit with a zero margin for error the rest of the way. But the sinking feeling in Athens this week isn’t only because the path to a championship is narrower than it was last week. It’s also because of the nagging suspicion that their best chance at winning it all is playing for another school. (Last week: 3)
4. Kelly Bryant, Missouri
Through 6 games, Bryant is running the ball slightly less often than he did at Clemson, and not nearly as successfully. As a passer, though, his output has largely improved, especially in terms of yards per attempt, touchdown rate, and generating big plays in general:
Granted, the right-hand column is a small sample size against uninspiring defenses. But the Tigers have cruised in every game since the opening-night stunner at Wyoming and Bryant looking the part is a big reason why. (Last week: 4)
5. Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
The first half of A&M’s season was a clear disappointment, not so much for the 3-3 record itself as for the fact the Aggies came a lot closer to losing to Arkansas than they did to winning any of their 3 measuring-stick games against Clemson, Auburn and Alabama. Mond, of course, has shouldered his share of the angst from the fan base. But he’s also shouldered a larger individual share of his team’s total output than any other SEC quarterback to date, and more than all but a handful of players nationally:
And even that number is misleading: Outside of a couple token blowouts against Texas State and Lamar, Mond’s share has been so high — 82 percent at Clemson, 92 percent against Auburn, 78 percent against Arkansas, 91 percent in Saturday’s loss to Alabama — that he’s functioning essentially as the entire offense in a system that’s ostensibly built for balance.
A big part of that trend is that A&M has trailed big in each of the 3 losses and has been forced to abandon the running game early in an effort to throw its way out of a hopeless deficit. A big part of that trend, though, is that outside of Mond himself, the running game has ceased to exist in the first place. The Aggies lost their top back, Jashaun Corbin, to a season-ending injury in Week 2; in the 3 games since (excluding Lamar), the running backs have produced a grand total of 112 yards rushing on a pathetic 2.7 per carry. Adjusting for negative yardage on sacks, Mond nearly matched that number against Bama alone.
The really frustrating part is that the talent in the passing game is obvious. Jhamon Ausbon, Quartney Davis and Kendrick Rogers are impressive, veteran weapons who are good for at least 1 or 2 jaw-dropping plays per week. Mond has all the tools. But it’s all been too little, too late: 8 of their 11 scoring drives in the losses have come with A&M already trailing by double digits. And they have all been drives, spanning somewhere between 6 and 16 plays apiece against defenses that feel free to tee off on Mond. (He’s absorbed 15 sacks on the season, most in the SEC, and countless other hits.)
The upcoming stretch against Ole Miss, Mississippi State, UT-San Antonio and South Carolina is the opposite of a murderer’s row ahead of season-ending/defining trips to Georgia and LSU — the perfect opportunity to get in sync with the idea of making comeback mode the offense’s default setting. (Last week: 5)
6. Kyle Trask, Florida
Trask was impressive in the Gators’ loss at LSU, both statistically (23-of-39, 310 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT) and in terms of It Factor intangibles in a high-pressure, high-profile setting. He held serve opposite Joe Burrow in the first half, leading three methodical, 75-yard touchdown drives that left the game knotted at halftime and led another long march out of the locker room that put Florida up 28-21 early in the 3d quarter.
There were a couple of turning points. The first came later in 3rd, after LSU scored to go up 35-28 and Florida responded by … taking the ball out of Trask’s hands. Instead, Dan Mullen gave backup/Wildcat Emory Jones a full series in a back-and-forth, every-possession-counts kind of game to do this:
The second came on Florida’s next series, at the end of another marathon drive that put the Gators within spitting distance of tying the score at 35 midway through the 4th quarter … at which point Trask made his first really costly mistake of the season:
Derek Stingley Jr comes up CLUTCH and LSU opens up a two-score lead on the Gators!
(Via @ESPN)pic.twitter.com/zxxkXRUX9N
— PFF College (@PFF_College) October 13, 2019
LSU scored 4 plays later to extend its lead to 42-28, game effectively over. But whatever doubts still existed about Trask’s transition from career back-up to full-time starter should be resolved. Combined with Georgia’s loss earlier in the day, the Gators’ chances of crashing the SEC title game arguably improved. (Last week: 6)
7. Bo Nix, Auburn
Nix got an extra week to marinate in the aftermath of his reality-check performance at Florida, but if there’s one thing the freshman definitely does not lack it’s confidence. And even if he did, a trip to Arkansas is exactly what doctor ordered to get it back. (Last week: 7)
8. Matt Corral and John Rhys Plumlee, Ole Miss
Corral and Plumlee alternated throughout the Rebels’ at 38-27 loss at Missouri, and from the sound of it there’s no plan to end the rotation any time soon.
On paper, they make for an interesting tandem with complementary skill sets — Corral the more polished passer, Plumlee the more dynamic athlete. In practice, the offense has clearly responded to Plumlee: In 3 games he’s accounted for 8 touchdowns, including 3 TDs at Alabama and all 4 of the Rebels’ scores at Mizzou; in between, he was the catalyst of Ole Miss’ first 400-yard rushing performance vs. an SEC opponent in 40 years in a blowout win over Vanderbilt. And while he is notably less consistent than Corral as a down-to-down passer, he’s been more willing to push the ball downfield, resulting in more big plays — by land and air — on fewer snaps.
Ole Miss still hanging around! John Rhys Plumlee 40 yards to the house!!pic.twitter.com/EJgAorFhSG
— #BusinessIsSuspended (@FTBeard11) October 13, 2019
It’s understandable that coaches feel invested in Corral, a major recruit who redshirted last year as the heir apparent to Jordan Ta’amu and opened this year as the unquestioned starter. At this rate, though, it won’t be much longer before the decision is made for them. (Last week: 9)
9. Garrett Shrader, Mississippi State
Speaking of decisions: After a month of hemming and hawing, Joe Moorhead is officially casting his lot with Shrader, the high-flying freshman, over grad transfer Tommy Stevens, who hasn’t looked comfortable (or finished a game) since suffering a shoulder injury in Week 2. Moorhead acknowledged this week that Saturday’s 20-10 loss at Tennessee — coming on the heels of an equally deflating loss at Auburn — was a low point that demands some kind of shake-up in response. Shrader might not be that, exactly, but if nothing else he has a chance to be part of a plausible long-term plan. (Last week: 8)
10. Ryan Hilinski, South Carolina
Hilinski delivered South Carolina’s only offensive touchdown against Georgia, a 48-yard bomb to Bryan Edwards in the 2nd quarter, and watched the rest of the upset from the bench due to a sprained knee. His replacement, redshirt freshman Dakereon Joyner, took a punting-is-winning approach — the Gamecocks didn’t come close to scoring in regulation after Hilinski’s injury, but didn’t commit a turnover, either, forcing UGA to start all 5 of its second-half possessions inside its own 25-yard line. Helmet stickers for everyone; now let’s get Hilinski back as soon as possible. (Last week: 10)
11. Brian Maurer or Jarrett Guarantano, Tennessee
Have a feeling this is why Brian Maurer was hurting. Immediately grabbed head/neck. #Vols pic.twitter.com/LDIKnjzRHc
— Trey Wallace (@TreyWallace_) October 12, 2019
Maurer has practiced this week after leaving the Vols’ win over Mississippi State with a concussion and is “going to be fine” for this weekend’s trip to Alabama, per Jeremy Pruitt. The more relevant question might be whether he’s going to be fine after this weekend’s trip to Alabama. A little discretion with a promising young player who’s already been knocked out of 2 consecutive games might be in order. (Last week: 11)
12. Sawyer Smith, Kentucky
Smith sat out the Wildcats’ win over Arkansas due to a lingering shoulder injury, yielding to all-purpose dynamo Lynn Bowden Jr., who went on to share SEC Offensive Player of the Week honors with Joe Burrow after accounting for 274 yards (196 rushing, 78 passing) and 3 touchdowns in his first college start behind center. I wouldn’t count on Smith getting Wally Pipp’d: The updated depth chart lists Smith and Bowden as co-starters for this week’s trip to Georgia, which is (a) not Arkansas, and (b) not going to be taken by surprise by Bowden after his heroics against the Hogs. Bowden will get his touches in a Wildcat package, but health pending, Smith remains the incumbent. (Last week: 13)
13. Nick Starkel or Ben Hicks, Arkansas
Starkel and Hicks played at Kentucky and will continue to split snaps this weekend against Auburn, for whatever it’s worth. Given how little difference there’s been between them this season, that’s probably not very much. (Last week: 14)
14. Riley Neal or Deuce Wallace, Vanderbilt
The Commodores’ 34-10 loss to UNLV was a point-of-no-return moment that almost certainly spells the end of the Derek Mason era in Nashville. Neal has started all 6 games this season, and Wallace has played extensively in all but 1; whoever gets the nod going forward will be manning the wheel of a sinking ship. (Last week: 12)
Fromm had a bad game, he doesn’t have many. He reminds me of AJ McCarron in the sense that UGA isn’t asking him to win ballgames with his arm….just need him to play mistake free and not lose the game with poor decisions.
He will get drafted but he isn’t a franchise QB, he will be a serviceable back up in the league.
As of right now, that appears to be the case. But there are exceptions to that school of thought, such as last year’s Florida game, SECCG, and every time he operates the 2-minute drill save last Saturday.
Sure … as if AJ McCarron didn’t also have big games. There is a huge difference between having an occasional big game against the opponent that your head coach has constructed his entire program to beat, and putting up huge #s week in and week out even when you are battling injuries and your teammates aren’t playing well.
Also, as I have mentioned to UGA fans before … yes, Fromm had 301 yards against Alabama. But Kyler Murray and Trevor Lawrence had BIGGER games against Alabama THE NEXT TWO GAMES. Including actually putting up points in the second half and the 4th quarter, which Fromm failed to do TWO GAMES IN A ROW. (And like Deshaun Watson did against BETTER Alabama defenses ran by Smart in 2015 and 2016. So what is the basis for drafting Fromm over Murray, Lawrence or Watson if you are going to go by their games against Alabama? Especially since Oklahoma and Clemson (under Watson at least) had less talent around them on paper than UGA? And as for the two-minute drill: that is so effective because it isn’t UGA’s normal offense or philosophy so it catches teams off guard. Let UGA do that all game long and every game, well they’re just another team running the HUNH spread. Teams would adapt and gameplan for it and it wouldn’t be nearly as effective.
In any case, I have always felt that UGA doesn’t have the caliber of talent at WR that UF, LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Clemson etc. – the other contenders – have and this year they are even worse. That is the real issue with Fromm’s struggles this year.
Ok.
Calm down. I never said he was bona fide franchise QB material. His efficiency numbers are usually at the top of the country, and it’s hard to accrue large stats when your team leads the SEC in rushing YPG and when you’ve spent a lot of SEC East game 4th quarters watching from the sideline.
“Efficiency numbers” are kind of a way to mask average stats. 9 for 11 for 145 yards and a TD is an “efficient” stat line for a QB, but not a “good” one.
It’s a great stat line if you don’t have 4 TO’s and can run the ball and don’t miss two FG’s.
Good to see the PAC 12 doormat still on this board…….well, not really.
Jake Fromm wasn’t the problem Saturday. He is a phenomenal leader and has the talent to be considered one of the best QBs in college football. His receivers have to help him out.
His receivers certainly didn’t do much to help him out on Saturday. Especially after his go to guy, Cager, went down. Pickens showed some flashes but he can probably do more to win consistently.
As an outsider looking in I believe the biggest difference in Georgia this year versus the past two years is the downfield blocking by the receiving corp. I like many others wondered if their inexperienced talent would overcome the hurdle of jelling quickly and it clearly has not. Curious, what is the longest run or even run after a catch by any Uga player against a decent defensive team this year? I recognize you lost your OC and DC, was there turnover at WR coach this past year also?
The longest run play has been 44 yards, and we’ve probably had less than 10 go above 20. The perimeter/downfield blocking of Ridley & Wims isn’t anywhere near what it used to be. I know I used to get tired of Kirby pounding that narrative, but now I see why.
The WR coach is the same, but losing your top 4 pass catchers doesn’t help anyone.
Very true. And even more apparent is the inability to seal blocks by your tight ends. Nauta was a bigger loss than expected it seems. Nowhere near the same team I watched last year but if there’s a plus, they certainly don’t quit fighting. Coach Smart did a good job instilling that must have attitude. Good luck the rest of the year.
It’s funny how we all ragged on Kirby for his continual harping on perimeter blocking by WRs and TEs, and yet that’s been the Achilles heel of our rushing offense. Now, we have an ordinary rushing attack which requires a complementary passing attack, but not only can our inexperienced WRs not block, they can’t get open thanks to ineffective playcalling.
I was going to say this almost word for word. My Georgia fan friends hate it when I compare Fromm to McCarron but it is a apt comparrison. And one that at the college level I think AJ has the better of so far. But in fairness to Fromm no Alabama fan ever hoped to get into a situation where AJ had to through the ball 50 times. I got a shiver just typing that.
Georgia fans invest way too much effort in pretending their QBs aren’t game managers. Remember back when Aaron Murray was better then AJ McCarron and was going to have a great NFL career, because reasons?
When you run the ball on 1st and 2nd down 9 times in one game, when you have two INT’s because WR run wrong route or drop the ball, when you have NO open receivers deeper than 10 yards from line of scrimmage, what can any QB do? Fromm did enought to overcome his mistakes. He couldn’t overcome the WR/kicker/Oline/OC/HC mistakes
Aaron Murray still owns practically every passing record in the SEC books. You can’t try to argue that he wasn’t better than McCarron in college. Murray put up 40 PPG and never had a Julio Jones to help him out.
Actually smsatUGA, there were a few times I saw when rewatching the game, that Fromm just didn’t see open players. The play right before the missed FG, Fromm tried to force one to a moderately covered swift, instead of seeing Pickens open on the curl past the sticks. Swift even saw Pickens before he turned and you could tell he said something to Jake about it after the play.
There were also plenty of times when Robertson was running with a step on his man across the middle or down the field with the safety on the other side. Jake didn’t do a great job of seeing the field on Saturday, especially when SCar would drop 7-8 and only rush their base D linemen.
And how does that change what actually happened? No QB sees every open receiver. Not every pass is perfect. But the WR can’t be open that inconsistently on 51 pass attempts.
It obviously doesn’t change the game, but it shows that the blame isn’t just on the WRs. There were WRs getting open and Fromm wasn’t seeing the field. He was forcing it to guys who were covered. Reminds me of the LSU game.
How much of it is Fromm and how much of it is the coaching? All the UGA fans in the comments hate the current system.
Mostly coaching. The reason I say that is in a better system, they would be able to survive Fromm being off his game. In the current system, Fromm has to be perfect and throw as little as possible.
All UGA fans don’t hate the system. Currently, it is ranked 6th in the country.
I imagine all UGA fans hate turnovers.
Thanks for letting me know! I guess I fell for the loud negative fans.
I would put Trask over Mond. He’s actually made meaningful plays.
Yes.
I would tie Tua and Burrow. Trask looks better than #6 to me and I am not nearly as confident vs Florida as I was.
Plumlee is fantastic and it hurts to watch him throw touchdowns to Elijah Moore. Both former UGA commits.
He’s a great runner. He makes some beautiful passes but needs more consistency to be a real threat in the passing game. On the good side, other than the one interception against Alabama, he doesn’t make any really awful decisions that you would expect a Freshman to make. If anything, he throws the ball away too quickly, which I’d much prefer to throwing into double and triple coverages. Moore is definitely the real deal at receiver.
They run him Plumlee so much that it worries me he is going to get a serious injury. He takes so many shots…
Yes he does but he also can run past and away from anyone on the field at any given time. I think even Bama was a little surprised at how quick he goes from 0-60 at first before adjusting a little bit. I think to have success long-term though, you are right. They are going to have to pick their spots to limit his exposure.
Yes indeed. Plumlee is also a really good baseball player.
UGA should have prioritized him more. He would be a welcomed addition to the team right now. They could even use a special package for him the way they did for Fields… because that wen’t so well. I’m just saying though, he can really fly. It’s crazy how he is able to make defenders look like they’re running in mud.
Plumlee faked Mizzou’s defense out of their shorts and he was the fastest player on the field. He was responsible for all 4 td’s. I’m glad we don’t have to face him again. He kept avoiding the big hit as well. That guy is scary good.
Trask at 6??? Seems low
Kellen Mond should be lower, Ole Miss & MSU as well
Plumlee is going to be a great qb in this league.
Tua only has 2 more TD pases then Joe, curious about why hes still number 1.
He also has 2 less interceptions…
Passing Yards, Comp %, QB rating all second to Joe
Joe is 3rd in QBR unless it’s not updated…
Im looking at passer rating, which is Joe, Jalen, Tua. Your right on QBR I think Joe is actually 4th. I stand corrected.
The top 3 are all close…
Passing QBR as of today:
#1 – Joe Burrow (218.1)
#2 – Jalen Hurts (215.9)
#3 – Tua Tagovailoa (214.3)
#4 – Tanner Morgan (195.1)
#5 – Tyler Huntley (187.6)
There’s really not much difference in the top three then a pretty big drop off after Tua. This is not the total QBR though. Just interesting.
Tua also has not played a team close to what Burrow has had to face. But we know an SEC website will always favor a certain team.
I would assume you are looking for a different reason than, “because Tua is better”. Everyone except LSU fans would take Tua over Burrow. He’s cerebral, passes are on time and in the right spots, and he rarely forces the issue.
Actually because of stats…they aren’t opinionated.
Everyone? Pro Football Focus just put out their most recent mock draft. They have Burrow going first and Tua 9th. You think they are LSU fans?
Anything that favors LSU must be bias…
I mean that’s obviously why Bama gets high ranked recruits, and the Bama players get any awards…
Let use the LSU fans logic from above.. Its obviously all bias ..
Which LSU fans logic?
Statistics aren’t biased
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Ok BT. Your post makes no sense. The Bama fan said everyone but LSU fans would take Tua over Burrow. I showed where that wasn’t true. You just posted more nonsense.
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My post was just about everyone always calling my bias if anything favored Bama… There is a LSU fan that posted it just a few posts up… You said it wasn’t a LSU fan or site, I said it must be based on everything positive is just because of bias based on a LSU fans logic…
It was tongue and cheek..
It’s “tongue in cheek”. You don’t read books. There’s a reason. It shows.
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I would take either in a heartbeat. Those two are amazing. I like Burrows toughness. Kind of reminds me of Brett Favre. Tua has all the tools and really like who he is as a person as well.
Splitting hairs. 1 and 1A really. Can’t wait for the game on 11/9. The winner has the inside track to both the Heisman and the CFP.
And Tua has played who? Nobody. And don’t say TA&M. That’s a good team, but NOT UF or Texas.
We will find out November 9th.
Well they did beat SC… LMAO
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After last week, Burrow should be number one. Alabama hasn’t faced a defense as good as Florida’s.
I don’t know. SC just held Georgia to 17 in Athens. TAM held Clemson to 23 without the help of any offense at all. Florida had a good game against Auburn but I’m not sure how good their offense is yet. I think the story on Florida’s defense still needs to be written.
Actually, UGA held UGA to 17. And do not tell me how the TO”s were forced. Dropping a snap from center, WR running wrong route and a WR having the ball bounce of his hands is not “forcing” a turnover.
Gatorgrd12…. See above…
Florida has a good defense no doubt, but until LSU they hadn’t really faced great offensive teams..
The Georgia and Mizzou games will be interesting for Florida.
Mizzou’s D lost a lot of cohesiveness when Cale Garrett was injured. The guy was a maniac, a leader, and was always at the right time and place. Heck, he scored 3 td’s in 5 games plus was the leading tackler.
I really liked our chances vs florida but not so sure now.
This is about QB power rankings… QBs don’t play against the opposing offense so it’s not really relevant.
Actually the person I replied to was talking about the level of defense Florida plays so it’s very relevant..
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I misread what you wrote. My apologies. With that said, UF has (with the exception of LSU and Kentucky) held their opponents well under their offensive averages. These stats and the eye test is really all you can base the defense on. The best defense Bama has faced is S. Carolina… also a good defense. But neither stats nor the eye test suggests the GameCocks are defensively better than the Gators.
All fair points guys but I really think that if this is a true power ranking and not a career ranking, you gotta go with Burrow at this point. Bama has not really played anyone that has had any success yet. USC UGA game is seen as the biggest upset of the year. We will obviously get a better bead on teams as the year goes on.
Well SC held UGA to 17? Sure it’s an upset but at some point maybe SC deserves a little credit as well…
I don’t remember not giving them credit. They played great and won the game. I’m worried about my gators this weekend. However, I think most people would still agree that UGA is the better team.
I’m not saying you specifically are not giving them credit. I just mean in general on these forums it seems fans like to say UGA gave the game away but if you watched it the SC defense played a role in those turnovers..
Don’t get me wrong SC offense isn’t good but their defense seems to be legit..
“Bama hasn’t played anybody yet” is becoming a yawner. It’s not like we have no idea who this Tua kid is or what he can do in that offense.
Agreed. Sure wish you guys would play somebody already. Tua has had a great career, but this is a power ranking, not a career award. He has not done anything this year that Burrow hasn’t done against a better defense.
I would go Burrow over Tua for right now at least. I am very excited how well K Bryant is doing right now for Mizzou.
I keep thinking that Trask should be up in the top three or so of this list but then I see the top four guys and they are just great QBs. UF will have its hands full when Bryant is on the field.
Plumb Lee is the real deal. Watching him torch our D in person was eye opening. We have some fast DBs, he made them all look slow. If he can shore up his passing game he will be VERY hard to stop.
*Plumblee
He was greased lightening.
Tua, Bryant, Plumlee, Trask, Fromm and if there is any need to 2nd guess that it might me moving Plumlee to 2nd.
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So Burrow doesn’t make your list? Ok then.
no, i just haven’t watched him enough to guess where he should be in any list. Notice I didn’t assign a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 to those names. I’m just comparing them to each other. Laughing at myself here, for once I wasn’t wordy enough. Thanks for helping clear that up.
So if you didn’t put them in order how do you move “Plumlee” to second…
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So you’d rank Burrow as the 6th best quarterback in the SEC?
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So are you trolling the troll, or are you the troll?
Just having a little fun.
The Trask hypers are ignoring that the kid as A BUNCH of turnovers this year. They didn’t hurt UF against Kentucky, Tennessee and Auburn because those teams are so bad on offense. But you had better believe that Trask’s pick (and misfires) in the end zone hurt UF’s chances, and if he makes those same mistakes going forward against UGA and Mizzou then UF won’t win those games either.
It is amazing how with certain fans some QBs can do no wrong and some can do no right.
Define a “BUNCH”. Last I checked, Trask has 3 interceptions. You’re really going to criticize him for losing a couple of fumbles by getting hit from behind while trying to throw? Pretty much all of those fumbles came in one game. Funny thing is he’s only played 4 full games and his numbers are up there with guys who have played 6. He’s actually got 1 more TD pass and has thrown for 180 less yards than Fromm, who has played 2 more games than him. I’m pretty sure he’s earned all the hype he’s getting.
I would much rather face Franks. When is he coming back?
Zero turnovers against UK by the way. He’s the only reason they won that game.
I hope Franks recovers in a hurry. He needs to play Mizzou one more time.
Trask was hardly the problem against LSU. That was a fantastic game and it was far closer than the final score indicated. He was efficient and made a lot of great reads against LSU’s defense.
You seem to have a lot of hot takes about SEC football, and I’m not quite sure if many hold any water.
Qb rankings? What if we dont have a qb?
I loved watching that kid play this week. What a great story.
I wonder if the coaches have considered installing a set of plays where Bowden throws to himself…
The UK coaches try to limit the number of plays per season that involve throwing the ball on anything but 3rd and long.
They have this sneaky system where they run for two downs hoping they get lucky, then throw a desperation pass on third hoping it lands in the right player’s hands. It’s so clever and hard to predict.
SMH
How bad did Vandys QB perform for Arkansas to move up to 13? Lol
I didn’t want to say it…but was thinking the same thing! I guess 10 points against UNLV sounds like the elevator hit the bottom floor in Nashville.
That and ain’t buying having Mond ahead of Trask and Nix. Clickbait check.
Hilinski is closer to passing Trask and Nix for a top 5 spot than he is to Shrader or the ole miss QBs, who anyone that watches any college football obviously know are both much worse than Ryan. Piss pour article
If Hilinski can stay healthy and continues to impress he’ll quickly move up. He was egregiously awful in the Missouri game, and I think that’s what keeps him from being ranked higher.
…. I really dont know what this guy sees in Miss St.
Yeah but on the Stingley INT no one seems to mention if you look below in the screen a missed call by them home cooking refs. Cleveland is plainly getting held on this play right in front of the official and a no call what BS.
Give me a break. We had terrible drive extending calls go your way that resulted in points for yall so dont sit here and whine about how that call decided the game. Doesn’t change the fact that your quarterback threw an awful pass that ended up being intercepted. People are saying that it was probably a miscommunication with the receiver or it was route run wrong on why it was intercepted. No. Your receiver ran to the end of the endzone and gave up on the play and then Stingley broke to where the ball was being thrown (into double coverage yards left of the receiver). Your flat footed receiver looked like James Harden out there trying to prevent the interception.
I’m guessing you’re referring to the low hit on Trask that took the LSU interception away? Give me a break! A low hit on the QB is a low hit no matter how you try to spin it. There’s no spinning when it comes to as bad of a missed holding call as you’ll ever see on Trask’s int. That would’ve given the Gators a 1st and goal from the 7 yard line with 4 plays to tie the game with 7 mins left. It doesn’t matter what happened after that holding or whether the player gave up or ran the wrong route, it should’ve been a free play. You guys won fair and square, but lets not act like those 2 calls are even remotely comparable.
You make me laugh Joe. Good for you.
First of all, brooks hit him in the hip. Not low. And that’s far from the only play. When Emory Jones threw that ill advised duck and y’all got a lucky tip td, the tiger pressuring him had a gator holding him from directly behind the whole way and still couldn’t stop him. And that wasn’t the only 3rd down y’all miraculously converted where the gator offensive line was blatantly, arm outstretched, HOLDING on for dear life to keep Trask upright. Pathetic to blame the refs for the loss when they were the reason most of your first half drives stayed alive anyway. LSU practically scored at will all night and y’all needed help to do practically anything.
Not to piggy-back on anything anybody else is claiming but to insinuate that the UF drives were flukey, unearned, or in need of help to stay alive is a bit disingenuous. Trask simply picked apart the LSU defense, just not as well as Burrow picked apart UFs. Both teams had lucky and unlucky breaks. If you made me guess I’d say LSU had more calls go their way but I’ll refrain from claiming that because I’ve got orange and blue glasses on. LSU did score at will which was an unpleasant surprise for me.
@gatorgrad Trask played well and I don’t mean to discredit him. He’s a gamer. But to insinuate that Florida somehow deserved to win and got screwed by the officials “home cooking” is disingenuous as well. Same as you said, I’ve got purp and gold glasses on but if I had to guess, I’d say the gators benefited from the calls by a slim margin. And that’s fine, with only what 7? Penalties in the whole game, it was pretty close. But to say that a 14 pt (and with style) win in which Florida didn’t scored after their first drive of the 2nd half is due to “home cooking”?… Cmon
UF definitely did not deserve to win but it was a close game. There are games where I think it’s perfectly fine to blame the refs for giving a team too much of an advantage. This was not one of them.
That’s a good assessment of Mond. He’s a good QB, but hasn’t looked great yet. Part of that is that the OLine isn’t doing him any favors. The running game is pretty bad outside of the yards he’s able to put up himself, and he’s spent more time running from pressure than throwing down field.
1a. Tua
1b. Burrow
Fixed it. Now people can stop whining about a pointless ranking that will work itself out Nov. 9th. But let’s also remember these two faced off last year in Death Valley at night and I think Tua walked away the victor in that match.
I’m not the least bit upset at a tua over burrow rating… But i will point out that this is a ranking for this year. Not last. We have a vastly improved offense and burrow is better equipped now. Both teams have vastly inferior defenses to their previous iterations. Fine with the ranking, but 2018 burrow vs 2018 bama defense can’t be compared to 2018 tua vs 2018 LSU defense. Unfair lol.
November 9th doesn’t definitively decide a QB ranking. Fromm’s team just lost to Hilinsky/Joyner’s team. Fromm is a much better QB than those two.
Ole Miss needs to give Plumlee the keys and turn him loose. That kid was hard to stop, and he’s only going to get better. Not sure how Ole Miss got him and Matt Corral, but the 2 QB thing isn’t going to work for very long. I actually felt relieved every time Matt Corral came on the field, even though he made several plays as well. I thought Plumlee’s passing was pretty good for a freshman, just needs the starting reps to keep improving.
Not having Plumlee at QB on those 3rd-and-goal and 4th-and-goal plays from the 1 yard line was just plain stupid coaching.
I’m looking forward to moving on from Tommy. I hope KT gets a redshirt and redo next year.
kellan mond bfore kyle trask i-
Kelly Bryant worries me. He continues to throw costly interceptions. He sails a lot of passes. He fails repeatedly to see Albert O wide open downfield. He does not have great arm strength and he is late on many throws.
(Where he is ranked in these beauty contests is irrelevant.)
His numbers are basically identical to James Franklin’s in 2013.
Missouri went 12-2 in 2013.
I’m glad we have KB. He’s not perfect but neither was Lock. With the game on the line I prefer Bryant’s toughness, leadership, and winning attitude. You keep worrying and I’ll keep watching him win.
Couldn’t ask for more from KB. Is he Tua or Burrow? Nah, but he’s the absolute definition of a steady presence, and his arm is a hell of a lot better than what I thought. Just the perfect QB to pair with this Mizzou roster.
We can make a case that he is the best quarterback in the SEC because he has a balance of tactical abilities. That might be harder on a defense that being the best passer or the best running quarterback either one. In fact I’m sure it is if the coaching staff is smart enough to play-book it. Next I want to see him receive a pass and run, then next receive a pass and pass. Remember the double pass that sealed Georgia fate against Missouri.