Dabo Swinney thinks college sports are heading toward a major restructuring that will equate to a “complete blowup” of current arrangements. The Clemson coach made his comments in a recent interview with ESPN’s Chris Low.

Swinney’s blowup comments came after Low asked Swinney how he would respond to criticisms he’s “out of touch” with the age of players signing NIL deals. Low had previously asked Swinney for his thoughts on the transfer portal, NIL deals, the professionalization of college sports and other topics.

“It doesn’t matter what I say,” Swinney said. “I’m going to get criticized. I’m way past that. I’ve been doing this a long time. The thing that changes young people’s lives is equipping themselves with tools for life, getting their education, networking, relationships, all those things. If they can make some short-term money along the way, great. But if that becomes the focus, there are going to be a lot of bad decisions by young people. There’s a reason car insurance is cheaper for a 25-year-old than an 18-year-old. It’s called judgment. There’s a lot that can be better and eventually I think it will get there.”

Low followed up by asking Swinney to explain what he meant by “get there.”

“I think there’s going to be a complete blowup and restructuring of all of college athletics, especially football, and there needs to be,” Swinney answered.

Swinney continued, echoing suggestions that has been made by fans and pundits over the years: Power 5 programs will separate and be governed by a commissioner.

“I think eventually there will be some type of break and another division,” he said. “Right now, you got everybody in one group, and it’s not feasible. Alabama has different problems than Middle Tennessee, but we’re trying to make them all be the same and it’s just not. I think you’ll have 40 or 50 teams and a commissioner and here are the rules. A commissioner would help because there’s no uniformity. It’s just a mess. You can’t get anything done. There’s so much bureaucracy and you can’t get anything done in a real-time manner. It’s frustrating. The communication is not good and the rules are outdated. Again, there have been a lot of positives when it comes to the scholarships. But you’ve got all these people voting on things, and it’s just not apples to apples.”

Swinney’s full interview with Low, in which he reflects on his coaching career and discusses why he’s against using the transfer portal, can be read here.